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All perth pills are MDA

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I have been testing almost all of perth pills since the new years with the Mandelin reagent. The results of my tests excluding all the non MDxx pills are as follows:
White Omega - MDA
Blue Domes - MDA
White Doves - MDA
White Mitsubishi - MDA
Pink Dome - MDMA
White Dexter - MDA
Green Playboy - MDA
Green Ghost (Pacman) - MDA
Green Stickman (spider) - MDA
White Heart - MDA
Pink Playboy - MDA
White Star of David - MDA
Beige Mitsubishi (green when wet) - MDA
As you can see, the only pill that tested for MDMA was the pink dome on new years day. Yet I see all of those pills being posted as MDMA by so many people. Where are these results coming from? The mandelin reagent sold in any ganja shop in Australia has a clear difference in the colour change between MDA and MDMA. MDA reaction colour change begins with a redish-purply colour where MDMA reaction begins with a blue colour. All of the pills tested with a clear redish beginning. Opinions? (and no one please accuse me of not using the reagent properly or having bad lighting to observe the reaction or not performing the reaction more then once or on more then one pill.)
 
Bro, you know I disagree. But do you know what kind of can of worms you've just opened? And how little effect it's likely to have?
You're going to have to set up the wav files with footage, in slow mo, and run thru several different colour filters before people take you serious.
On the flip side this will hopefully make people look closely at their test rxns. And possibly get more ppl testing.
I refuse to comment any further on this matter :) Cos I have commented privately with you too much already. I'll just observe.
 
If you had done all these tests with Simon's as well we could have had something to talk about, but Mandelin by its self isn't a very accurate test for MDA.
 
I believe the tester, but following a purple/black reaction with Marquis indicating MDxx content, we need specific tests (as johnboy mentioned) to prove that the primary amine MDA exists in the sample while the secondary amine MDMA or MDEA is absent.
I heartily commend your diligence in testing all these pills, however, and encourage everyone to question the content of their pills as comprehensively.
BigTrancer :)
 
generalising that all perth pills are MDA is just as silly as saying say all greenlighters are stupid
oh wait ..
 
If youd had a mda pill youd know the difference.
last mda i had was a yellow renasance(sp) or regal from about boxing day 2001.
no love just an edgy triipy feeling with huge body rushes and pupils like dinner plates
 
I do not believe that the white stars, white hearts or the pink playboys were MDA (having tried all 3). Too clean, great comedowns especially on the stars and hearts, no visuals, and they all only lasted maximum of 3.5 hours.
Then again testing is the only way to accurately portray the reality-u have tested but your method is flawed as Johnboy and BT pointed out.
I have also had the pink omegas which were a confirmed mix of MDA/MDMA and there is just no comparison with the hearts, stars or playboys.
 
^^^^
100% agreed
the effects of pink omegas were DISTINCTLY different to any other pills ive had recently (stars, playboys..)
they lasted longer, more trippy, some visuals
 
on the topic of perth pills, what does everyone think of the quality lately?
i personally think we have been getting some very good pills. Ive been seeing to many people taking pills which are clearly too strong for them!
 
ZT is not trolling, I can vouch that he has tested each of these pills, and that he vehemently believes that they are all MDA. I can also tell you he has done a lot of research as far as reading goes... and I think has had an MDA pill before (which funnily enuf is the pink dome - proven as best we can with testers to be a mixture of MDA and MDMA... showing up as MDA on E2 and under EZ-supreme testing as containing MDMA also)
ZTs I've discussed it with you at length dude, some of my arguements are above, some aren't, some that I never came up with are above. Personally I don't really care. I've been eaten enuf pills to know what is a good one, no matter what shade of purple the tester goes.
You should buy a gas spectrometer! :p
 
Oh I think the omegas tested up same as domes. MDA pills... very noticeable long and intense peak, with visuals and a lack of co-ordination on the comedown and general nasty feeling the next day. blah.
On the quality in Perth lately... well last one I had was a mercedes, which was nice, but hard to tell cos I was too pissed to know really :) And before that was a ghost back in January, they were damn good. Apart from that I don't know, but I'm told they're good.
I like to observe and laugh at how people rave about a pill for a few weeks, and then if it's still around and they're still taking them every w/e they stop working and the people start going on about how crap they are.
 
I too do not take any stock in the E2's ability to test for MDA/MDMA. It must be Simon's, Robadope or nothing.
I do give him credit for his efforts though as it does prove the inadequacy of Mandelin for this test.
Some of those pills were tested with extreme and were confirmed as MDMA/EA.
It could be that the tester is old; the purple MDXX reaction will always work (sulphuric acid); but the subtle change from violet MDA to dark purple/blue MDMA will not.
 
hmmm Well yer a reagent cant be 100% correct, ull need to get it lab tested. But still i belive that ALOT of pills are MDA not MDMA.
Most people dont know the difference, and fuck some people u can give them speed, and they would think it was a good pill.
Im not saying anyones wronge or anynoes right, but yer i agree that ALOT of pills are MDA not MDMA. Personally i like MDA effects better. But to each there own.
 
Until you test with at least Simon's/robadope reagent its still a pretty big statement to make. I've only ever come across an MDA pill once that was tested with Simon's and that was a yellow TP. Wanting to believe isn't going to make an assumption true, no matter how hard you try.
There are pills in that list that are not 'local' to perth, and if you search hard enough I bet people have done tests on them and its come up MDMA.
 
Also remember people as we do say on Bluelight. Not every pill logo/batch are the same pills/content.
moral of this thread.. TEST every pill you have to make sure you get what you want/pay for..
take care and TEST TEST TEST :)
its your lives and brains you are ultimately harming if you take pills with unknown(or known) contents.
 
Hardly any of the above pills are MDA... the only universally recognised one being the white omega, and perhaps the pink dome.
Does anyone else find it interesting that only the pink dome, which was even stated by entropope as a pill that contained MDA, was the only one that came up positive for MDMA?
A good example as to the errors made by the test is the 'White star of David' (6 pointed white stars) test, which came up MDA, yet is about as strong and clean an MDMA pill as has been seen in Perth in the last 6 months.
[ 22 March 2002: Message edited by: Jakoz ]
 
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