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Mathew Lheureux

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Hey guys so im just wondering if anyone out here believes in aliens and if so do you think they might have been the ones who created us.. I know that when you mention aliens a lot of dumb people just think your crazy but ive always been convinced that extra terrestrial life is out there and we might owe are very existence to them.. like genesis 1:26 says let us make man in OUR image.. but who knows that's just my theory about were we came from
 
to me gray aliens are like little worker bees travel around the universe taking care of various outpost and civilizations like ours
 
The Drake Equation suggests there is a strong possibility of life in the universe.
But that's not saying it's necessarily intelligent or even multi-celled yet.

I do not believe that aliens have visited Earth yet, beyond that i'm not qualified to say tho.
 
It seems a possibility that life on Earth may have originated on Mars, we may be the aliens :sus:

Either way I find it inconceivable that we are the only life in the universe, however the mere scale of the whole thing is well beyond my comprehension, so much so I suspect my opinion is less than the tiniest drop in the most vast of oceans.
 
I definitely believe in aliens, I also believe they have been visiting earth for a very long time, probably going back to biblical times, I also think our Govts know all about this topic too, Im not too sure if they actually have brokered deals with the aliens, but I know for fact ANY Govt entity would know about strange craft seen flying around their airspace, especially over years and years, look at how much they spy on us...I have a hard time believing no one in the military or intelligence communities has ever seen one of these crafts on radar...I mean, cmon!!

I think the NRO (National Reconnaissance Organization) knows all about aliens, some of the capabilities they are said to have is fucking crazy, and this is only the ones we know about, can only imagine what they secretly can do!!

I think the universe is similar to star wars, probably lots of different systems out there, in various stages of technological progress, some probably know about each other, some dont, some may be at war with others, some may be allies, this makes logical sense to me, and we here on earth are either like out in a rural area of the universe or we arent ready to join such a community yet.
 
Egyptian drawings picture many humanoid-looking creatueres with heads like cats, etc. I think Egypt was influenced by extra-terrestrial civilisations and also more ancient civilisations. Of course many will say "There is no scientific proof" but there's also no scientific proof they weren't.
 
Well to your point about drawings/engravings with cats/animals with heads... human civilizations through Earth at various times often portrayed their deities as part human, part animal. I think it's just human nature to personify forces you don't understand and merge them with the world around you, and animals were of course very important to everyone whether they be for food, as predators, etc. And all ancient cultures (all cultures in fact) had gods. It's natural that humans would generate such ideas on their own.

That said, I fully believe there is life out there, and intelligent life. Life more and less advanced than us. The sheer magnitude of the scale of the universe doesn't leave any room for doubt in my mind about that, even assuming the chances of it existing in any given spot are overwhelmingly slim. I think that if faster-than-light travel is possible (perhaps it's possible to bend spacetime and travel that way), that we may have really been visited by an alien species. If it's not, then I can't see how it's at all feasible. So I'm undecided on whether we've actually been visited. I hope we have, because that would mean some amazing things are possible that I really want to be possible. I'd so love to be able to visit somewhere else in the universe, or encounter some other form of life. I am sure it exists, but whether it's possible to ever know anything about it I am not so sure about. If it's not possible to travel faster than the speed of light, then even the nearest star would take over 4 years to reach. Let alone another galaxy, or even a tiny fraction of the way across our own galaxy. The timespans required would be astronomical.

But when it comes to this topic, I realize we know basically nothing, and anything is possible.
 
Xorkoth said:
I realize we know basically nothing, and anything is possible.
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I think that is very true :)

The scale of the universe is a compelling reason to assume that life exists somewhere other then earth. The 'rare earth' hypothesis suggests that life requires earth-like planets, and we have been discovering them for some time now, so there are plenty of possible homes for life that we could comprehend as such. I think there could exist forms of life that we would never recognise, and I think these may also exist on earth too. I won't ever know that though.

I think the whole aliens visiting earth scenario is unlikely. Looking at the Fermi paradox, it seems probable that advanced life capable of such travel; does not exist in the Milky Way yet. It always appears that aliens are flying physical spaceships but there is really no known means for craft to traverse such huge intergalactic distances (yet I suppose) in a timely manner; even lightspeed is too slow to make this feasible and the relativistic time dilation effects of such would cause huge cultural problems for the visitors. I can't really imagine why a ship or craft would be needed if lifeforms are able to bypass traditional spacetime in some way; that seems to be anthropocentric bias. I think the humanoid descriptions are also somewhat anthropocentric (there is no really compelling to think aliens should be humanoid; look at the utter dearth of humanoid creatures on earth itself as an example of the rarity of such creatures), plus the fact that these aliens seem to have discernibly human motives for travel and abductions (research, sample gathering, etc.) might reflect a human basis for these encounters.

But at the same time, there could be alien civilisations similar to our own that exist 100 light years away and we would have no way of knowing. The galaxy may be teeming with semi-modern life like our own and we wouldn't know. Or we could be the first civilisation in the galaxy (or universe) to emerge. I think that if the universe is real in the way it seems, there is certainly other forms of life out there.


I think the idea of panspermia is very interesting, directed panspermia even more so... Its tantalisingly beautiful as an idea :)
 
Trying2Iso said:
The Drake Equation suggests there is a strong possibility of life in the universe.
But that's not saying it's necessarily intelligent or even multi-celled yet.

I do not believe that aliens have visited Earth yet, beyond that i'm not qualified to say tho.
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The Drake equation does more than suggest possibility of alien life....it pratically guarantees it.
I think it predicts between 10 thousand and 100 million different planets with intelligent life in our galaxy alone lol .
Too bad the equation is psedo math and meaningless.

Considering the universe is supposely @ 15 billion years old (and the laws and material are the same across the universe) intelligent life forming on Earth randomly hit the mega trillion jackpot in terms of mathematical probabilities.
Thinking something as complex as a brain can randomly form millions of times ( or even tens of thousands) is hard to swallow for me.
I can't even believe it happened once randomly.
If the mechanism driving/allowing all these imaginary intelligent life forms to spark up is that easy, we should be able to easily duplicate it in a lab.
Instead of "searching the stars",
the money spent on SETI could be used to explore Earth's oceans. This is where real 'alien' life is just waiting to be discovered.

OP, If there are aliens out there they are the original life form to hit that lottery and are going around seeding other planets. It is higly unlikely intelligent life is popping up like popcorn randomly all over the milky way or the universe IMO.
 
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willow11 said:
I think that is very true :)

The scale of the universe is a compelling reason to assume that life exists somewhere other then earth. The 'rare earth' hypothesis suggests that life requires earth-like planets, and we have been discovering them for some time now, so there are plenty of possible homes for life that we could comprehend as such. I think there could exist forms of life that we would never recognise, and I think these may also exist on earth too. I won't ever know that though.

I think the whole aliens visiting earth scenario is unlikely. Looking at the Fermi paradox, it seems probable that advanced life capable of such travel; does not exist in the Milky Way yet. It always appears that aliens are flying physical spaceships but there is really no known means for craft to traverse such huge intergalactic distances (yet I suppose) in a timely manner; even lightspeed is too slow to make this feasible and the relativistic time dilation effects of such would cause huge cultural problems for the visitors. I can't really imagine why a ship or craft would be needed if lifeforms are able to bypass traditional spacetime in some way; that seems to be anthropocentric bias. I think the humanoid descriptions are also somewhat anthropocentric (there is no really compelling to think aliens should be humanoid; look at the utter dearth of humanoid creatures on earth itself as an example of the rarity of such creatures), plus the fact that these aliens seem to have discernibly human motives for travel and abductions (research, sample gathering, etc.) might reflect a human basis for these encounters.

But at the same time, there could be alien civilisations similar to our own that exist 100 light years away and we would have no way of knowing. The galaxy may be teeming with semi-modern life like our own and we wouldn't know. Or we could be the first civilisation in the galaxy (or universe) to emerge. I think that if the universe is real in the way it seems, there is certainly other forms of life out there.


I think the idea of panspermia is very interesting, directed panspermia even more so... Its tantalisingly beautiful as an idea :)
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Your post is tantalisingly beautiful, you have obviously given a lot of thought to this and I find myself in rare total agreement...the idea that life beyond (or within) our known galaxy would be humanoid is unlikely.
 
The conditions in which life can exsist are infinite. Look at the recent discoveries of sulphuric acid eating hyper pressurized volcano dwelling crustacions on the ocean floor, or micro organisms that exist in mercury, this suggests the possibility that similar organisms could live on the face of the sun! If this is possible just within our little speck of space shit imagine the possibilities that exist in the infinity of the universe.

It is guaranteed that species far more 'advanced' than our own exist, there is a strong possibility they are already in contact. We dont meddle in the affairs of gorillas other than to kidnap one every so often and put it in a zoo or kill it for resources why should 'they'?
 
^I fucking hope so ;)

Perhaps the sun is alive in a way that is beyond our normal conceptions of what life is.... :\ :)

Birc said:
Your post is tantalisingly beautiful, you have obviously given a lot of thought to this and I find myself in rare total agreement.
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I've given it a fair bit of tripping time also :)

I think the aliens are already inside us TBPH :)
 
Again, obviously it cant be proven but one could theorize that some unknown form of 'hyper' archae or other thermophiles could exist on the sun. The point is the conditions for life can and do exist virtually everywhere all around us all the time without our awareness of their existence. I dont have time to hunt the specific news item I was thinking about in reference to life on the sun but its related to the discovery of life in mercury

http://archives.microbeworld.org/microbes/archaea/where.aspx
 
I get it but the point is we dont know yet and probably wont in this life time, I just think its worth considering that life is possible anywhere including the seemingly most impossible of places. Go beyond this and think event horizon and that last rays of light, could life exist within them?
 
Well, if we get to use ununadultered imigination then I guess about anything is possible.
But if we use the reality that we know I would say the sun isn't very hospitable to life as we know it.
 
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