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I could never understand why people in aa had a problem with using extracts or wine in cooking. It burns the alcohol out so it's not going to get you drunk

That part makes sense to me actually. Not the not eating something cooked with alcohol, but an alcoholic going to the store to buy it? Maybe some people could but for me it would be too tempting to drink whatever I didn't use for cooking. Same with bars really. I guess it just really depends on whether the person has totally kicked it or not and whether they're fully in control.
 
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Theres an old jamacain dude whos been around a long time. Everybody loves him and hes real good one on one. Anyway he always starts off his shares the same way;
Hello my name is so and so and i am an alcoholic and but for the grace of God and the benifit of this fellowship i have not yet had a drink todar and for that im truly grateful. Thats some wonderful stuff. Enjoy.
 
I have finally decided to quit. Forever. I have been a long-time daily drinker. I just turned 50, and for the first time overconsumption led to withdrawal symptoms, I thought I was having a heart attack. I have been lucky in that I do not have hangovers (or possibly unlucky). Life has been exceedingly stressful the past five years, but this was a wake-up call. I usually walk 15,000 steps a day, and I could not get out of bed. I have a wonderful husband and a teen-aged daughter. They deserve better, I deserve better. I have self-tapered before. Hopefully if I do it slowly and carefully I will be okay this time too. I have trazodone, so I will have help with the insomnia, which is the only problem I have had before. Wish me luck.
 
Thanks. My therapist is a harm reduction one. I'll do well for long periods but then something (daughter attempting suicide, homeless kid that we took in four years ago running drug op from our basement and finding three drug dealers in his room who refuse to leave, etc.) derails my efforts. I have so much stress, but alcohol just adds to it.
 
Almost, I get you. And I'm at the same juncture and stress levels. It always seems like the only solution at the time but in the end I know it's counterproductive, so I'm self tapering too. Keep posting your progress. I hope you stay going in the right direction and have a good support system.
 
Thank you. We can report together! I am still drinking way too much. I tend to derail also when on vacation (it's vacation, starting at lunch is fine, when I know it is not). And then I came home and two days later found the drug dealers in my house (my sonhad gone to school and left them here, he has antisocial personality disorder). It wasn't the drug dealing aspect of it per se, it was that I asked them to leave four times over two hours and they would not. They were looking at me like bitch make us. I had never met them, my son comes from the ghetto, finally I told them I would call the cops. I was getting ready to leave and do so when they finally left, taking many items, including an ipad.

Anyway, back to the real topic. Although I am still at high levels, 9 glasses of wine daily, it is an improvement and I no longer have withdrawal symptoms, although I do have cravings starting at about 5. My appetite is improving and I think I will be able to exercise today. I have an appointment with my therapist, but the week after next because we will be travelling next week. Tapering will be a challenge while on the road but I hope to be down to five glasses daily when I meet her. Every drink not drunk is a success, but I think a slow taper is a better idea for me this time. Good luck to both of us and please report.
 
That alll sounds crazy man! Tapering is good if you can do it but its tough when youre at 1 then none. There will be a huge void. You have to fill it with something or back to drinking. At least in my case. A hobby or something to replace the drinking. I could never do it and i tried a thousand times. AA gave me a relief cause it was steady and slow. Gave me a hobby to. Things ate changed for me and recently have been battling opiates. So im upping my meetings. Im in withdrawl now. It really hurts. Got med to help with withdrawl. I stopped my hobbies like music and golf and wasnt a matter of time i was lost again. I have a plan which i think is good too. Its been a long time since i was put on pain meds so my body and mine are freaking. 3 more hrs till med. yeah, a plan to fill that void time. If youre not getting gratifacation from hobbies than youre in trouble. Dude, ive drank 2 boxes of wine one night so dont be so worried about amounts just that fill that void. When addicted people kick their drug of choice it wreaks havoc on your mental state. Youll miss it the rest of your life, i do. Alcohol tool my colon last summer and then the opiates after surgery. Anyway, good luck to you man.
 
I have two events tonight and tomorrow. My plan is just a couple but I've made plans like that a million times which end in blackout and waking up on the tile floor. Tonight is going to be different. I've got some resolve. Plus I don't know these people so it would be very bad form to not stop when I need to.
My taper is kind of on step forward two back and then two forward one back. But I think I've been doing well overall for the past month. I'm not blacking out every night anymore. Yay me. (sarcasm)

I need to take advantage of this calm in the storm as well. The only real disaster in my life at this moment is work, and I can handle that (she says). It's a good time to slow way down on the drinking.

I like that....every drink not drunk is a success. I'm going to keep that in the front of my mind tonight.
 
Closeau, I agree with the void. I volunteer regularly, it has helped a lot. When I don't drink I like to read, and not just internet forums. Also I walk about two hours a day. Before this descent I had already decided to join my husband's gym in March and walk with him in the mornings and take up weight lifting again. He will also walk with me after dinner, every little thing helps.

Slice, I am not the group type but I recognize that for some it is a life saver. I am lucky in that my therapist specializes in harm reduction, part of Tartarsk's practice. But I might look into HAMS or SMART support groups. I stole that line from HAMS. You should check out their site.
 
I see a therapist that specializes in addiction which sounds similar to what you're describing when you say harm reduction and it's been great because he's been able to really help me look at what makes me want to drink beyond just the basic "trigger" catchphrase and since it's one on one we have the time weekly to figure out the deeper issues behind my drinking and at what point my drinking went from being a normal young adult who liked to go to parties and bars with my friends and get carried away once in awhile to having a full fledged problem.
I didn't know such a thing existed outside of rehab and treatment programs until my regular therapist suggested it after a relapse.
I'm not an AA person myself but I won't claim this is a replacement because it's something different entirely and I recommend it for addicts who still use support groups because the professional one on one time is helpful in a different way. Granted it's a luxury for those with good insurance and access to good mental health facilities.
 
Hi guys, I'm new here. I couldn't see how to start a thread so sorry if I've just replied with this. I've been a heavy drinker for about 11 years, at three points during that time I've experienced alcohol induced psychosis, including auditory and visual hallucinations.

After a two and a half week bender, drinking no less that 3 bottles of red wine a day, I foolishly brought this to a quick halt on the tuesday just gone. Needless to say I went into acute with-drawl, inc psychosis, including hallucinations.

Anyway, It's 5 days later and I'm fine and up and about, however the hallucinations just won't go. The visuals aren't to bad in that they only come at night, however I cannot stop hearing this noise wherever I go, whispering, almost like crickets chirping at night. I haven't slept at all and it's driving me insane.

Just wondering what the longest anyone else has experienced hallucinations for as I'm terrified I'm stuck like this?

Cheers
 
/\ That's why you're not supposed to go cold turkey if you've been drinking for a long time. That can potentially kill you if your tolerance is bad enough. Either way it will likely go away, but probably best to talk to your doctor and not just stop abruptly.

Got my ultrasound results back and everything came back as stable somehow. Now I just gotta make sure I don't take that as an excuse to start drinking all the time again.
 
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Glad your results are ok nutty thread. Yeah I know you're not meant to, I did try but didn't realise I hadn't done enough .I'm in the alcohol unit of my local hospital as we speak. I went in earlier and told them about the hallucinations. They're seriously worried. I've been in a few hrs and had 50mg of libreium and a drip of some concoction of vitamins. The Dr assured me that she's fairly certain I'm not schizophrenic. I just want these audio hallucinations to end ASAP. No, I pray that they end. I'm supposed to be going to Peru to do Auahuasca in a week. Now I've prob gone and fucked it up. Just praying that repeated librium doses will end it. If not then it's prob antisychotics. What's the longest any of you have ever suffered hallucinations if you don't mind me asking?
 
Nutty, great news on your enzymes. And yes TAPER. Even if you have been on your first one month bender, NEVER quit CT unless you have surgery or something, and then do it under the supervision of an understanding gp. Look at hams.com, for a taper schedule. Kindling is no joke.
 
Slice, how did the events go? Not blacking out every night is definitely progress. I have noticed some of your posts on other threads. I suspect we share a lot of experiences. I'm here.
 
Damn that sucks. At least you're getting the treatment you need now. I ended up in the ER myself in January due to alcohol withdrawal and some other factors. I've never experienced full blown dt's but afaik hallucinations aren't uncommon with bad dt's. Unless you've experienced voices and other symptoms when not going off the booze I wouldn't worry about being schizophrenic. As far as the ayahuasca I personally probably wouldn't recommend it giving the state your in. I think it could be a good experience but I would want to be healthy going into it. Anyways that's just my shit advice. Hope you get better!
 
Yeah, I would definitely not go do ayahausca if you're in any level of alcohol withdrawal. I would make sure to be healthy first as nutty said above.
 
I'm not an expert in withdrawal drugs because I was more of a binge drinker and not so much physically addicted even though they gave me a medical detox in rehab, but librium doesn't seem like a very strong drug for serious withdrawals? I was given phenobarbital whether I needed it or not along with the drinkers who were at risk of dangerous withdrawal symptoms.
 
Thank you Almost.

Perhaps we do share some common stressors. If so, I hope you are working regularly with some good professionals, which I am not. I'll do that when others in my family have reached some type of stability. The mental health part of recovery seems to be a game of inches and unfortunately quite expensive. The stuff I've been through in the last two years is enough to make an alcoholic out of anyone, not that it's an excuse, but it's been a solution.

Fortunately I've always been somewhat of a DIYer so I'm getting a lot of therapy right here on BL. Friday night did not go as planned but overall not as bad as it could have. I'm only missing pieces of Friday right at the end. That resulted in a couple of pints for lunch the next day but nothing Saturday night. So I don't know if I call that progress or not. I think I will. Trying to keep it controlled tonight at a meeting with some old friends at a wine bar to reminisce over the recent loss of a mutual friend.

It seems like every day is either crushingly stressful or social/work engagements with liquor flowing, so it's been hard to draw that line in the sand.
 
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