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Harm Reduction Alcohol withdrawals?

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e12dsm

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Ive been drinking everday for about the last 5 or 6 months. Anywhere from a pint to 3 pints of vodka a day. This is the first time in my life i have ever drank to this extent, ive kicked heroin millions of time so im experienced with the pain and symptoms of w/d from opiates. its been almost 18 hours since my last drink and im really starting to feel shitty. My hands arent shaking too badly, but my whole body feels like it is. Sweaty hands and feet, etc. Ive just never felt like this before, i feel 10x's worse then whenever i kick dope. im not sure if its w/ds or if something else is wrong with me, so if anyone can give me a lil feedback on their experience with this is would be greattttly appreciated.
 
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You need to get ER fast and get proper treatment. You might die from the withdrawals. And took a diazepam or other benzo asap while getting your ass in ER.
 
well i just got a half pint, i want to see if it helps. but im trying to find a detox right now. im in jersey and with all of our people and drug/alocohol problems there are only a handfull of detoxs in the state and most of the ones in new york are a bitch to get into if u are from jersey. ill report back in a bit after i get this bottle down.
 
Yes, seizures and death are a definite possibility when it comes to withdrawals from alcohol, unlike with opiates. Quitting cold turkey probably isn't a viable option. It probably isn't anything other than withdrawals, but withdrawal from a heavy drinking habit is far more dangerous than opiate withdrawals.
 
yea i know, thats why im so worried, ive witnessed many people having seizures from kickin the booze, scary shit. its just weird, this is the first time ive felt THIS bad since i started drinking. When it comes to dope i know to the hour exactly when i will start feeling w/d, i just dont have much experience with this. So im a bit paranoid, plus i recently found out that i have Hep C, a cyst on my liver, and a few other things so im a bit worried that it might be something else ya know?
 
Seek medical advice. The best way (and by far the safest) to correctly detox/withdrawal from alcohol is with a taper with another drug that works on GABA like alcohol does (Valium/diazepam is commonly used). Rapid "detox" treatments also exist, but both of these must be done under the supervision and direction of a doctor who is experienced with GABA drug withdrawal.

Withdrawal from alcohol can kill you, play it safe and speak to a doctor.

Good luck!
 
as others have said, you need a doctor to assess you. you might need phenobarb.
 
thanks... yea the drink def has aleviated the "crawl out of my skin" feeling, still unable to find a detox with open beds tomorrow.
 
any reason for trying to quit cold turkey?

have you considered just trying to taper down yourself or is it more of a self control issue?

i just quit weed 2 days ago (well technically today is my first day free of weed since i was fiendin last night and found some crumbs and smoked those). ive been drinking a lot more tho lately as ive found moderate alcohol consumption to actually be kind of decent in its own way. altho i fear for becoming an alcoholic since i have a few relatives who are.
 
Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad drinking habit?

I personally have been drinking several beers/drinks/shots a day for the past couple years and I've sporadically gone days here and there without drinking and nothing even close to this happens. I live with roommates in a fairly popular house, so there's always friends around, always drinking and pot smoking going on, and it's pretty much a given that when I get home from work, I'm smoking a few bowls and putting back a couple beers. Also, we day-drink on weekends almost all the time. I feel absolutely zero dependence on alcohol and nothing even close to resembling a withdrawal when I stop.

Honestly, OP, I think something else is wrong with you and I agree, you should seek medical attention, however I have many doubts this is an alcohol withdrawal. Perhaps it's a problem the alcohol caused?
 
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Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad drinking habit?

I personally have been drinking several beers/drinks/shots a day for the past couple years and I've sporadically gone days here and there without drinking and nothing even close to this happens. I live with roommates in a fairly popular house, so there's always friends around, always drinking and pot smoking going on, and it's pretty much a given that when I get home from work, I'm smoking a few bowls and putting back a couple beers. Also, we day-drink on weekends almost all the time. I feel absolutely zero dependence on alcohol and nothing even close to resembling a withdrawal when I stop.

Honestly, OP, I think something else is wrong with you and I agree, you should seek medical attention, however I have many doubts this is an alcohol withdrawal. Perhaps it's a problem the alcohol caused?
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Drinking a few drinks at night is different than 1 to 3 pints of hards a day. The OP is consuming (I'm gathering) ten to thirty + shots of vodka a day. That amount is bound to cause severe withdrawals upon cessation.
 
Seattle_Stranger said:
Am I the only one who doesn't see this as a bad drinking habit?

I personally have been drinking several beers/drinks/shots a day for the past couple years and I've sporadically gone days here and there without drinking and nothing even close to this happens. I live with roommates in a fairly popular house, so there's always friends around, always drinking and pot smoking going on, and it's pretty much a given that when I get home from work, I'm smoking a few bowls and putting back a couple beers. Also, we day-drink on weekends almost all the time. I feel absolutely zero dependence on alcohol and nothing even close to resembling a withdrawal when I stop.

Honestly, OP, I think something else is wrong with you and I agree, you should seek medical attention, however I have many doubts this is an alcohol withdrawal. Perhaps it's a problem the alcohol caused?
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are you serious? Please stop talking immediately.

Several beers a day are no where near drinking a pint plus of real liquor everyday for 6 months.. I think you are mistaken the frat house environment you live in to what this man is going through.. A couple guys "always drinking and smoking" is nothing like consistantly drinking large amounts of hard liquor.. EVERYDAY.. I call bullshit on your part.. if anyone in your house did the amount of drinking he is then you would surely be in withdrawal after 18 hours of no alcohol.. and thats a FACT.

OP.. this is not something you would ever want to try to quit cold turkey.. It can have severe consequences (seizure, death) I would drink the least amount that you could just to get by and feel normal until you can recieve treatment.. You need help with this.. Alcohol withdrawal is no joke.

Please let us know how your progress goes and good luck.. Im definitely pulling for you!
 
Thank you guys so much. All the feedback is muchhh appreciated. The halfpint def took the edge off, and i was also able to get my hands on some xanax to hold me over until i can get in somewhere. Its amazing how tough it can be in this area to find help, considering i live 10 mins from NYC, but i think my best bet is going to be Staten Island, i was at a detox there back in October and thought it was one of the better ones ive been to. Im pretty sure they use phenobarbital for alcohol w/d. But anyway, i knew what i was getting into when i first started drinking, but like a good addict i just kept telling myself i wouldnt let it get out of control, and as long as i wasnt shooting dope i was good, i guess we find things out the hard way sometimes. Im still baffled as to how fast my tolerance went up also. in the begining a half pint would have me on firee for a good couple a 3 hours, now it takes atleast 2 to even get me slurring. A couple of my buddies brought me to an ER about a month ago to try and get me into their Detox, my blood alcohol was .32, and that was about 4 hours after my last drink. The nurses were amazed i was coherent and filling out paperwork and giving them my info. When she told me what my BAC was i almost started to cry because of the overwhelming sense of shame i felt. ive been doing dope for about 6 years, but i always told myself id never drink, both of my grandfathers died from alcoholism, and i saved my mothers life twice after trying to commit suicide while drunk. i swear this is one of the most fucked up demons i have ever had to battle, and ive gone toe to toe with a few in my life.
 
^--whenever caught up in the addiction of our doc.. one always thinks the worst.. especially when feeling withdrawal.. but I promise you.. if you work at it... and follow the steps of treatment into recovery then things will start to get better.. both mentally and physically.. when I was deep into my dope addiction I felt just like you.. now that Im clean.. my body feels great.. my mind is clear.. and I love waking up and seeing the sun shining everyday.. and you will too.

..there is something I would always tell myself when I thought I just couldnt handle it anymore... weaker people then me have gotten clean.. theres no reason that I cant do it.

weaker people then you have done it.. YOU CAN DO IT.
 
Definetely benzos and ER, heavy alcohol WD can induce psychosis and even death. It's no joke. If you have trouble staying sober, as your doctor for Disulfiram. It makes drinking impossible for some two weeks a hit, but you have to be sure that your liver and heart are in condition to handle it. And yeah, YOU CAN DO IT, good luck!
 
Man, I've been there. Alcohol withdrawals are not pretty.

I was drinking anything from a 70cl of rum a day to that plus more. When I stopped cold turkey, I was hallucinating like fuck, SHAKING SO BADLY to the point I couldnt even stand up well, was sweating like there's no tomorrow and the worst part was the overall feeling of impending doom/dread/"something bad is about to happen/im about to die" feeling.

I had to have a drink, and eventually tapered down on my own accord, which was not easy, but if I did it...you can too.

It's a disgusting drug. I dont touch it at all anymore, which I NEVER thought I would say. You can do it, man. You have the will to stop, which is half the battle.

All the best.
 
Thanks guys, its amazing how words of encouragement and empathy from complete strangers can help so much. Like they say the theraputic value of one addict/alcoholic helping another is without parrallel
 
HOLY Jesus way to jump down my throat!! I seemed to have mis-read it, I saw pints OR vodka with pints meaning beers. I honestly mis-read it and I apologize but let's not get ahead of ourselves now... 8)
 
No worries bro, i miss read shit alll the time. but yea like they were saying, ive been consuming quite a bit of alcohol on a daily basis for a decent amount of time. 2-3 pints, 4 on a good day. So at the make im taking roughly 40-45 shots a day, most people without a tolerance would blackout or be completely hammered at about 10, im not trying to brag or anything just trying to put it in perspective how much ive been drinking. im on day 2 a feeling pretty good. took 1.5 mgs of xanax so far with some valerian root, and it takes the edge of quite well, i just wish it wasnt so damn fast acting. id lovee to have some Diazepam but for some reason its so hard to find around here
In north jersey you can literally by 2mg sticks on every street and corner in citys like newark, elizabeth, paterson etc.. and many other places, there are more methadone clinics then Detoxs or hospitals. Its just so hard to go into a city like newark or jersey city, and not get arrested if you are white, and i just got out of jail in october and im not trying to go back, so im trying to make due with the .5mg's that my pops has been giving me, i just hate that im having to use my father onceee again, he doesnt deserve to be putting up with this bullshit anymore, i MUST get clean, and start giving back to him, he needs his old son back.
 
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