TDS Alcohol Addiction 45 Minute Docu. (Worth a Watch)

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For those of you guys that like stuff like Intervention and documentaries about addiction. I hadn't seen this one, and I must say it's the gnarliest documentary I've ever seen. Alcoholism is very hardcore and this might help some of you see alcohol for what it really is: poison. I'm not sure if TDS allows posting of links to youtube so if Im breaking any rules here please accept my apology mods. I think this video is worth a watch and perhaps we could discuss how an individual could get to this point as this is what happens when a drinker keeps on drinking and never gets help and gets clean. This is GRAPHIC and not easy to watch, but if you want here.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_dJ97Vwoup4
 
Been watching national geographic too huh? :)

I watched this last night. Very depressing.

I am curious though how exactly he died, or rather how well the detox facility looked after him. Not making any snap judgements, just wondering.
 
Good questions Jess it makes me wonder too. I found myself thinking of Ryan a lot in my sleep last night. I was kind of surprised when I saw that 75,000 Americans die from alcohol a year? That can't be right can it, seems high to me, maybe its all the DUI and DUI victims added into it.
 
Oh man... Right from the start I just wanted to fast forward to the end and see him all well and happy but I ended up crying in the end :(

"God will only give you so much time, and then just a little bit more" I'm not much of a theist, but what he said there... too many good people living on borrowed time, it pains me to even think about it.

I think this video is worth a watch and perhaps we could discuss how an individual could get to this point as this is what happens when a drinker keeps on drinking and never gets help and gets clean.

One thing to remember is that all the biggest habits started small, atleast that's how I see it. One harmless drink every night just to relax you before the bed can soon turn to a couple of drinks once the tolerance sets in, then as a bit more time passes you notice you're more depressed, perhaps anxious and start drinking a drink or two during the day too. Your body slowly gets accustomed, you don't feel poisoned or drunk really while drinking like this, but at some point you will wake up in the morning feeling sick and somehow all wrong and you realize the only thing that makes you feel 100% right is alcohol. Stress, perhaps mild depression, well probably the same thing that drove you to drink in the first place has probably gotten worse and you have even less coping mechanisms now (I don't wanna count alcohol as one) so you simply can't deal with the bad feeling that results from abstinence, so you keep drinking because it's easy, legal and you don't have to admit you even have a problem to yourself. As time goes on, things get more and more hazy and your judgement gets cloudier than ever, so you're much less likely to look at what you're doing critically.
 
FnX thats a good description of how progressive alcoholism is. Alcohol was so much fun in the early days and often cherished much more than weed. If me and my buddies had alcohol we all knew we were in for one hell of a ride. And year after year I drank like a fish and it was social and fun. Then I crossed that line like anyone does who drinks enough I guess. Although not everyone did. I began needing a drink to enjoy myself and just to live. I began drinking despite obvious consequences and once I turned 21 it was on like donkey kong. I drank until I was 25 and then by then it was just so obvious that most of the drama, chaos, and relationship problems in my life were a result of booze. Oh the embarassing things I did and said. Horrible, horrible things. I tried to use AA to get sober but it didn't work. I relapsed and didn't get back until years later after I had BBQ'd my life. Once again I tried AA but this time benzos brought me back out and now I was doing heroin on top of it. At the end of my drinking career I was doing it everyday after work, drinking cheap lager and I had tried almost every type of beer there was. Alcohol stopped being the hit it once was. It left me feeling worse than dead. And I could no longer drink without realizing that it was a problem and that I was going into debt to become a bigger and bigger alcoholic. Now I haven't had a drink in 5 months and I feel fantastic. Some days I really miss beer and whiskey and when I watch TV and movies and see people drinking it saddens me. Alcohol and me just don't get along and for me to have a good life I had to let it go. This documentary was extremely depressing but also a reminder for me to rejoice in the fact that I am portentially one of the lucky ones who made it out of the alcohol trap. Because at the end thats what it becomes, a trap. Alcoholism is awful awful stuff.
 
This was so, so sad.

JessFR said:
I am curious though how exactly he died, or rather how well the detox facility looked after him.

I am too. 17 days seems a long time for acute withdrawal to be the cause, though his other health problems seemed significant.

It's so unfortunate to me the amount of misinformation, and the lack of education there is about addiction. The way his family was becoming divided - it pissed me off to see his mum abusing his grandfather for 'enabling' him. I can see the point of view, of course...but addiction is steeped in so much moral judgement, so much propoganda, and I think this hinders treatment so much. People are so enculturated with values and judgements about drug use and addiction, particularly with legal drugs like alcohol which have such a long cultural tradition, that I think it makes objective thinking so, so hard. It seems to add so many hurdles and obstructions to rational and realistic thinking, and I think everyone suffers for it.
 
"I don't think anyone knows how much I need this, and how much one minute means to me right now" :(

I am literally crying he died in rehab 17 days in :(. I too was wondering about the rehab facility and how well they were managing his addiction and taper. (on a different note the "bedroom" looked a lot nicer than my rehab bedroom.)

He was a funny individual I could see his personality shining even through the booze in the documentary.

I definitely was not expecting that ending. :\ <3 Ryan
 
Pretty brutal. He likely died from organ failure, rather then the acute withdrawal. God knows how long he had been doing that to himself. 3 pints a day is some pretty serious shit, especially since he might have possibly been drinking that 100 proof rotgut vodka (black bottle).
 
Super sad. I saw the original airing on National Geographic and had tears in the back of my eyes. As this is the one life we all can agree that we get, I think he deserved better.

When cancer is found in one's body, immediate action is taken to remove it and/or stifle the progress. I wish alcohol in society would be viewed this way. It's wrong, manipulating, and not the truth for alcohol companies to advertise the way they do. Alcohol for one's ingestion has no positive effect mentally, physically, or emotionally.
 
This was a great watch, and I want to thank you for sharing this. Alcoholism takes many different 'forms' and it's easy to forget how it affects people in different ways.
 
I want to watch this and will, but since reasding some of the reactions here, I want to wait til I'm in a better mind frame.
 
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