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Advice Please - Did WAY Too Much Molly Saturday Night

webbiam

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Hey everyone,

I made a really huge mistake on Saturday night. I just did way too much Molly, and it was very good stuff. Bought from a good friend of mine - it was very crystally, and actually had to be broken up with 2 cologne bottles to make it real powdery before putting it into the capsules.

ANYWAY - went out to a huge party and to be quite honest, I lost my mind and let the party get the best of me. Everything was going fine at first, I did a .2 and started rolling. Then about an hour later, another .2. I was really rolling at this point. But I couldn't stop. I kept re-dosing every 45 minutes or so. By the time I took my last dose at about 3:15AM, I had done a full 1.0G or possibly more of this Molly. It was SO, SO incredibly stupid. I know that now, since I'm in a "normal" state of mind and able to think about it properly.

I'm beginning to get very worried.

For starters, I thought I was going to pass out from overheating. My friends and I had been drinking water throughout the night, but I was SWEATING from dancing so much. When the lights came on at the end, my entire shirt was soaked. Then we had to go down to retrieve our coats from coat check, and there were 2,000 people stuffed down there and NO AIR CONDITIONING. After about 10 minutes down there I decided I couldn't handle it, thought I was going to pass out so I ran outside. This was NYC in January, it was about 15 degrees outside and all I had on was a soaking wet t-shirt, but I was so hot that it felt good and cooled me down.

By the time I got home at 5AM, my eyes were just HUGE and my jaw was clenched like a fist. I couldn't help it - I looked like a monster. I smoked a little bit of weed, drank a few beers and crawled in bed with the hopes of falling asleep. It didn't happen. I think I finally fell asleep at about 7AM-9AM. When I woke up at 9AM my eyes were still huge. Then I was up again until about 12PM, and couldn't take it anymore - I ate 1.0mg of Xanax, even though I was uncomfortable with it, and passed out from 12PM-5PM. That night, I fell asleep at 9:30PM and slept until about 8:30AM the next morning.

This whole week has been HORRIBLE. Monday I was an emotional rollercoaster, depressed all day mostly, couldn't smile or anything. On top of that, my mind just wasn't functioning properly. Felt like I was seeing the world through a cloud in my head, and I'm usually sharp as a tack. Tuesday was not much better, maybe even worse. Wednesday was GREAT - I woke up whistling, singing in my head, prancing around. I was finally HAPPY again. This lasted until about 5PM, and then I got kind of depressed again. Today is Thursday, and I must say that my mood is MUCH improved. Only a few hours throughout the day do I get anxious, and it's mostly related to the main problem:

My mind is still not functioning properly. I am forgetful, and I still have that "cloudy" or "dull" feeling, like I'm not as smart as I used to be. I poured a cup of coffee today, and it tasted TERRIBLE. I couldn't figure out why. It wasn't until 5 minutes later that I realized - not only had I completely forgotten to add sugar, but it took me 5 minutes to relate the fact that the coffee tasted bad to the fact that it lacked sugar!! I was totally shocked and upset. My brain is clearly not working as well as it should.

It's been about 5 days since I ate that last molly. Again, I'm not too worried about the mood. I think that's going to be 100% better by the end of the week. But my brain function has me a little scared. Do you think this will get better, or might I have induced some kind of permanent brain/nerve damage? I know it was just way too much MDMA for one night.

Any help, advice, words of encouragement - ANYTHING - is immensely appreciated. Thank you ALL in advance.
 
^ Do you even know what brain damage is? I would like to hear your definition of it.


MDMA doesn't cause brain damage.. it causes 5-HT depletion and axon degradation. Oxygen deprivation and head trauma causes brain damage.



Anyways OP, you'll be fine... after such abuse you feel AWFUL I know, I've been there haha. Just take some time off my man, from everything. No more drugs for a LONG time. You'll likely need several months to repair the damage done to your serotonin system.


A healthy diet high in L-Tryptophan (look for DarksideSam's E diet, it will help you out a lot), get some exercise and get out under the sun. You don't need to be in sunlight, even under the clouds will help your body produce more serotonin naturally, as will the diet (most important) and exercise. A combination of the three should help speed up your recovery...


Don't worry though, time heals all wounds. One massive night out won't kill you, but DO NOT make a habit of this. The more you do the more damage that will be done, and that damage will add up over time.





So basically, you'll be fine eventually.. but DO NOT let it happen again.
 
Well, your typing is very good so I'd say you're not as bad off as you think. Very organized/educated and all that.

Unless it took you a couple hours to write that, then I'd be worried :D JK

I think you'll be OK. As has been said ^ it wasn't smart, but you'll be OK.
 
Thanks, everyone. I really appreciate your input. I've been working out DAILY, taking a ton of Vitamins (B6, B12, C, D2, E, Zinc, etc.), and eating healthy. In all honesty, this might be the best lesson I've ever learned. Not only am I staying away from any type of drug for a while, but I'm now motivated to exercise and stay as healthy as possible.

Lesson has been LEARNED, and I'm glad to hear you all say that I should be okay with some hard work on my end.

Glad to have joined this forum, and I plan on passing along EVERYTHING I've learned scouring the web these past few days to all of my current rave-loving friends.

Much love and thanks.
 
dont od on the vitamins matey they can be just as dangerous..

btw welcome to bluelight :)
 
Thanks, laugh. I've been taking the recommended dosage, except for the Vitamin C which is just a wonder drug so I've been doing 1.5x that.

Glad to be here. I'll be stopping by a lot more often from now on!
 
webbiam, take it chill and relax, you DO NOT have any permanent brain damage. The brain is very powerful, 1gram of dope aint gonna destroy it for good! : )
You're gonna feel fucked up for a few days after such a binge, it happens to a lot of people. You're gonna feel strange, maybe a little bit down for 1-2 weeks, maybe up to one month after rolling as hard as you did.

You depleted your serotonin fully, wich controls mood, and other functions. The fact that you forgot the sugar in the coffee might just be that you're thinking too much about "brain damage", wich will only make it worse.
Hell, you might create a problem where there isn't one with paranoia.

Serotonin takes weeks to rebuild, hence the long recovery after binge.

Eat well, excercise, get sleep (smoke bud if you have to), and stay off MDMA for two months at least.

You will probably be 100% or close after a month, man, your brain will be fine : )

I've felt like shit after doing a little too much, I felt empty and slow for days, then got minor mood swings... But it just takes a couple of weeks, and you WILL begin to feel all good again.
Just stay away from the dope for a good while !
 
A gram of mdma!? jeez that's quite a bit, but like everyone said just lay off everything for awhile and your brain will recover. If you think smoking weed is fine then change your mind haha. It will worsen the anxiety, if it doesn't it will just make the process much more lengthy and the cloudy headidness feeling will either comeback or stay. I say you can drink on some weekend though. How bad were your hallucinations? The highest dose I ever took was about 650 mgs and I will never go past 300 now. That was a scary night, the hallucinations were outta this world and i rolled the night before on just 100 mgs so I was probably on the cusp of some serious problems. I always question whether it's mdma because once you go past 500 mgs you start hallucinating intensely.
 
Can completely relate to your situation. I somehow managed to consume 1.5-2 grams not too long ago following a period of weekly usage and symptoms were so ridiculously bad - far worse than what you describe - that I was convinced that I would never be more than a shadow of my former self. 1 and a half months on and I am, for the first time, feeling like I will make it back to (or close to) baseline although I have some way to go. Patience is key here. Do not let anecdotal horror stories on BL exacerbate your symptoms, which can so easily happen while your brain chemistry is out of whack. Having said that.... (lol)

I was so cognitively fucked for a while that I was forced to temporarily withdraw from my university, as essays were coming in thick and fast. (Temporary) Cognitive decline is an incredibly terrifying thing to go through. Not only could I not write essays, but the English language suddenly became foreign. Felt like a kid at the dinner table with adults when sitting around/ chatting with my fucking friends!! I literally went from the guy who got the best grades in my entire year at secondary school to an e-tard who struggled to form a single coherent thought (never mind sentence). Only very recently have I experienced noticeable improvements and it should come as no surprise that these have coincided with improvements in my diet and exercise regimen. Changing my sleeping patterns in a way that has allowed me to see as much sunlight as possible, has been another crucial contributor to recent progress, I believe. As a large chunk of mental clarity has returned for me, I have reason to be optimistic for the first time in what feels like forever (although it has only been 6 weeks), and there should be no reason why you won't recover a SHITLOAD quicker than I have (so far) based on how mild your symptoms are. Whilst you're experiencing anxiety about a bit of brain fog (which happens to A LOT of people after a hard session), I felt like a walking talking zombie without a hint of any positive emotions for an entire month! I spent Christmas eve locked in my room crying my eyes out, too scared to talk to anyone, whilst my relatives were having christmas dinner. And yet I'm here... closer to my old self than i ever expected to be in just a few weeks. Things will look up!

Another piece of advice I can give you is to stop thinking like this --> "it wasn't until 5 minutes later that I realized - not only had I completely forgotten to add sugar, but it took me 5 minutes to relate the fact that the coffee tasted bad to the fact that it lacked sugar!!".

Analysing every single one of your actions in detail, constantly, will only serve to worsen your apparent cognitive deficits. Everyone's mental capacity is limited, and if you choose to spend 80% of your limited mental budget on the analysing process, you're leaving yourself with 20% for all the things that make you the normal, sharp, spontaneous and carefree human you were. In other words, the more you analyse, the more you fuck up... and the more you fuck up, the more you analyse. This is a vicious cycle that I myself am trying to break out of.

Good luck with your recovery! :)
 
A gram of mdma!? jeez that's quite a bit, but like everyone said just lay off everything for awhile and your brain will recover. If you think smoking weed is fine then change your mind haha. It will worsen the anxiety, if it doesn't it will just make the process much more lengthy and the cloudy headidness feeling will either comeback or stay. I say you can drink on some weekend though. How bad were your hallucinations? The highest dose I ever took was about 650 mgs and I will never go past 300 now. That was a scary night, the hallucinations were outta this world and i rolled the night before on just 100 mgs so I was probably on the cusp of some serious problems. I always question whether it's mdma because once you go past 500 mgs you start hallucinating intensely.

It was pretty crazy. My eyes were flickering EVERYWHERE and I couldn't read my phone when I looked at it. There was a light show behind the DJ and holy smokes, I couldn't even focus on the damned DJ. Just had eyes darting every which way and everything was a blur. For the most part, I kept them closed. When I came home, I was seeing mathematical formulas written all over my walls at 5AM. It was VERY weird and I didn't like it, as compared to mild hallucinations on other drugs, like Shrooms, which I invite with open arms. My friend, who also took too much MDMA but not as much as I did, was telling me for 2 days that he saw our friend, I'll call him "Jimmy," there at the show and they talked for 20 minutes. I didn't believe him at all (not Jimmy's type of music), so I called Jimmy on Tuesday and he told me that, no, he wasn't there at all. So my friend was obviously hallucinating pretty badly as well.

Can completely relate to your situation. I somehow managed to consume 1.5-2 grams not too long ago following a period of weekly usage and symptoms were so ridiculously bad - far worse than what you describe - that I was convinced that I would never be more than a shadow of my former self. 1 and a half months on and I am, for the first time, feeling like I will make it back to (or close to) baseline although I have some way to go. Patience is key here. Do not let anecdotal horror stories on BL exacerbate your symptoms, which can so easily happen while your brain chemistry is out of whack. Having said that.... (lol)

I was so cognitively fucked for a while that I was forced to temporarily withdraw from my university, as essays were coming in thick and fast. (Temporary) Cognitive decline is an incredibly terrifying thing to go through. Not only could I not write essays, but the English language suddenly became foreign. Felt like a kid at the dinner table with adults when sitting around/ chatting with my fucking friends!! I literally went from the guy who got the best grades in my entire year at secondary school to an e-tard who struggled to form a single coherent thought (never mind sentence). Only very recently have I experienced noticeable improvements and it should come as no surprise that these have coincided with improvements in my diet and exercise regimen. Changing my sleeping patterns in a way that has allowed me to see as much sunlight as possible, has been another crucial contributor to recent progress, I believe. As a large chunk of mental clarity has returned for me, I have reason to be optimistic for the first time in what feels like forever (although it has only been 6 weeks), and there should be no reason why you won't recover a SHITLOAD quicker than I have (so far) based on how mild your symptoms are. Whilst you're experiencing anxiety about a bit of brain fog (which happens to A LOT of people after a hard session), I felt like a walking talking zombie without a hint of any positive emotions for an entire month! I spent Christmas eve locked in my room crying my eyes out, too scared to talk to anyone, whilst my relatives were having christmas dinner. And yet I'm here... closer to my old self than i ever expected to be in just a few weeks. Things will look up!

Another piece of advice I can give you is to stop thinking like this --> "it wasn't until 5 minutes later that I realized - not only had I completely forgotten to add sugar, but it took me 5 minutes to relate the fact that the coffee tasted bad to the fact that it lacked sugar!!".

Analysing every single one of your actions in detail, constantly, will only serve to worsen your apparent cognitive deficits. Everyone's mental capacity is limited, and if you choose to spend 80% of your limited mental budget on the analysing process, you're leaving yourself with 20% for all the things that make you the normal, sharp, spontaneous and carefree human you were. In other words, the more you analyse, the more you fuck up... and the more you fuck up, the more you analyse. This is a vicious cycle that I myself am trying to break out of.

Good luck with your recovery! :)

Thank you so much for sharing. I don't know what we were thinking, taking that much!!! It really helps to hear encouragement from someone who had as crazy (in your case, even crazier!) a night than I did and is already feeling better. To be honest, since everyone on this forum has spoken up and told me that things will be okay, I haven't thought much about it today. Yes, I called a woman by the wrong name earlier (her co-worker is Carol, but I called HER Carol and then corrected myself), but I didn't dwell on it. That could have happened a month ago, for all I know. I've always been bad with names. I'm still a little cloudy, but now with the confidence from everyone here that it WILL go away, my mood is just a million times stronger than it was. I really can't thank everyone enough.
 
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