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Advice on my spiritual quest

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I am 23 and for 2 years or so I have considered myself a highly spiritual being
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. I have always been a misfit, and one to think outside the box, but I have made enormous progression throughout the last couple years and it doesn't seem to be letting up. I'm sure I have a very long way to go but I have come to many realizations concerning the nature of reality that I know the majority of people go through life never being aware of. I realize that I create everything with my own mind, and I have been dedicating my life recently to understanding how my mind works. I wish to quiet my mind, and reach a level of awareness to the point that I can experience what exists onwards after I die and my thoughts and sensory information disappear.

I am very humble but I must say that I am well advanced beyond my age. Of all the great many people I have met, I have only met a few who I see eye to eye with. I've noticed that I have a great eye for noticing them and I connect with other spiritual beings very quickly. I have met them occasionally through yoga, or through physics, and that's pretty much it. I'm doing quite well for myself and already have a degree in Engineering Physics from a great school. For a while I was really influenced by how reality can be described in terms of mathematics, but not so much anymore. It isn't really the way for me.

Psychedelics have been a major influence in helping me along my way. Mushrooms opened my eyes to a whole new world and they were pretty much the start of it all. MDMA taught me how to love. Recently I have been experimenting with LSD, after years of preparation, and it blew all my other drug experiences out of the water. It's not like I woke up a changed man. Acid triggered a months-long journey of accelerated progression, I did it all myself and it was a little overwhelming but I'm getting through it all right.

My lifestyle is superb. I am deeply into yin yoga as well as eastern thought at the moment, and I'm in it for life. I work out daily and eat like a king, all healthy food. I was abusing alcohol for a while but I've known for a long time that it is the most harmful drug in existence. I really believe that is why there seem to be so many people in this world with such low levels of awareness. Everyone seems to love drinking. Well, a lot of people just seem to live overall unhealthy lifestyles I guess. Fast food and all that shit. Not me, I am doing my best to get the most out of life these days.

I have read books on buddhism, taoism, and currently I am reading one called The Serpent Power by Sir John Woodroofe about kundalini yoga and it's pretty much hardcore Hinduism I guess. It is not an easy read but quite enlightening. I have read books on hippie culture, and Be Here Now by Ram Dass. I have read The Perennial Philosophy, Heaven and Hell, and Island, all by the brilliant Aldous Huxley. If you guys have any reading suggestions for me I'd love to hear them.

Being a middle class westerner, it is difficult to suffer in these parts, but I have certainly managed to do so at times. I recently completed a part of my journey where I suffered immensely. It revolved around marijuana addiction. It took great courage to admit this to myself because I had developed my whole social identity around the substance, but it was making me extremely lonely among other things. It was weakening my mind severely. Marijuana does not seem to usually have such a negative effect on people but it truly ruined a good few years of my life, where I lost everything. I am wondering, people, is it common for those on the spiritual path to encounter immense loneliness and suffering at times? I feel now, since I quit blazing recently, that it was meant to be. I definately came to a lot of insights from being chronically stoned too. Presently I feel more alive than I've ever felt in my life.

My parents are police officers which has put a strange twist on things. Right now I am not on speaking terms with them because they simply have never understood me at all. It is extremely frustrating. They see me as a burnout, they despise drugs and it's ruined my relationship with them, yet they have no problem with me getting drunk as fuck, which is the only drug that I have seen as a vice in my life. Typical commoners.

I have known for quite some time that I am well advanced beyond my family and most friends. I am wondering, how the hell are people so unaware? How can people just go to church like zombies and be all egotistical about it and see themselves as spiritually progressed while they have never even thought outside the box? I was punished for quitting church as a kid. How do people go out every weekend getting wasted as fuck, acting like total sloths, fuck randoms, wake up hung over as shit and are cool with doing that again and again? I despise that way of life and I was once there but I have completely changed my ways. And it hasn't been long so I expect even more progression as my body heals from the wounds my past mistakes have created.

I feel like I need to be surrounded by likeminded people, but they seem to be so rare here. How can I go about finding them other than through yoga? Since yoga has been capitalised on by westerers and turned into exercise, it is difficult to find people who really know what it's all about. And I don't hang around anyone who uses psychs at all really, most of my friends see me as a lunatic. They even told my parents I did acid they were so worried about me. These people are alcoholics, burning out all the time and have no business being concerned about my spiritual adventures. However, as I said I'm really trying to be humble. I will smile and show compassion to everyone. I just get frustrated sometimes with it all.

Maybe I just need to accept being alone. I'm really not lonely at all in my own company as I'm constantly analyzing my reality, or keeping myself busy through healthy activities. My dream is to meet a likeminded woman and I believe that the universe tends to unfold as it should and this might happen soon. I'd like to raise a kid with this same kind of mentality, there arn't enough of us in the world. But who knows, it seems even more difficult for women to let go and think outside the box. But those are the only women I am interested in at all so I've been alone for a very long while at this point.

I imagine DMT will come to me at some point. I'm not seeking it out yet but I'm excited for that. Other than DMT I don't plan on experimenting with any more drugs except the odd use of acid. I'm thinking of travelling to India but I'm not sure if it's worth it these days because it is being modernised. But I'm probably going to go cycling around India at some point and see what I can find.

I know this is kind of just a rant. The spiritual journey has always been difficult to put

into words, and I can't ask questions about realizations I haven't come to yet you know? But who knows, maybe I will hear some words of wisdom from someone on this site that will trigger more self-realizations. Otherwise, I enjoyed writing this anyways because I love to write down my thoughts. Has a calming effect.
 
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You need to cut yourself off from most of the world and go deep into your mind. If you have a facebook, delete it. If you have a phone, turn it off. Unplug your computer, ect, ect.
 
My advice would be to read and listen to Adyashanti. You can get a healthy dose of him from here for example.

You are most likely on a very beneficial path, but from what you write, it seems that you have made all of this 'being a highly spiritual being' into an identity, which creates this imaginary big wall between you and others. I guess it's quite a common phase, but this too has to fall away eventually.
It's just the ego turning spirituality into something 'for it's own use'.
 
it seems that you have made all of this 'being a highly spiritual being' into an identity, which creates this imaginary big wall between you and others. I guess it's quite a common phase, but this too has to fall away eventually.
It's just the ego turning spirituality into something 'for it's own use'.

I would say im still in the process of letting this fall away, i went through this phase for a while.. the problem is it's so subtle that you don't actually realize your creating an identity through your own understanding of spirituality.. and then when it begins to fall away it feels as though you've been abandoned by spirit, giving off a great sense of disillusionment.. but that which ultimately leads to the dissolving of the self into the no-thing-ness.

I would also highly recommend Adyashanti; he's very clear and simple in his teachings.
 
You have my sympathy for the amount of loneliness one endures during their spiritual journey!
Your situation is almost identical to mine as far as being a productive member of society and enjoying psyches to lift the veil to spirituality. I too have a conservative family who condones any drug use other than alcohol, with the exception of my pops who isn't here anymore from alcoholism....he's the one who really understood me, probably because we were alot alike....since his journey to the spirit world I have really kicked my spirituality into high gear.
One book that has helped me along my path is "If you meet the buddah on the road, kill him" by sheldon kopp. Found the book in my pops belongings after his death... Pretty much emphasizes how to find the happiness within you despite all the social conditioning we go through which leads to misery and all the problems we see in society...it really emphasizes the loneliness aspect very well...i don't think my pops even read it.
What I have learned is to make yourself happy spiritually and in turn that happiness will radiate off you onto others as well...just don't get caught up trying to preach/speak as though you know the way/truth sort of speak. Because as you are learning peoples interpretation of happiness is very different from person to person, especially yours. My brother is happy popping pills, while my other brother is happy buying flashy stuff showing off and getting drunk, while my mother in laws is religion and still very miserable...who are we to say for them. In the end we are all struggling human beings trying to find our place....who cares if we like to partake in consuming entheogens -its our business only unless we make it their business....thats funny that your friends think your crazy for your psyche use-mine do too even the ones who used to partake. I stopped talking about dmt trips long ago once I saw my peeps negative reaction to it all.
Good luck with your journey and meeting that special someone!
 
anybody that can write more than one sentence about their spirituality, without feeling a liar, is probably lying to themselves...
 
Have u read the Gospels yet? The Gospels opened my eyes. I didn't know jesus was a radical revolutionary who upset the tables of the moneychangers, told his disciples to go forth without money and said, "U can't serve God & money."

i always considered myself a "misfit" and "thought outside the box" and attributed that to being born breech.

I'd like to meet a young virgin who thinks like U. lol
 
My only problem with your world outlook is that you consider yourself above most of the people around you. That's an attitude that will attract a lot of bad things coming your way, sooner or later. It's a divisive and relationship-destroying attitude. I don't claim to be enlightened, but one thing I'm fairly certain of is that any spirituality that does its job (that is, brings you closer together to people, things, the world, and everything) will have at their base the notion that any person being 'beyond' or 'above' or 'separated / set apart from' any other is preposterous, because we're all just smal and inseparable parts of the same great whole, and we're all returning invariably to the same source that begat us. Any quality spirituality, in other word, involves an inexhaustible capacity to forgive and look past really all differences. That's a tall order, I understand. But since when was anything of real quality easy to build?

I really don't mean to come off harshly, OP, and I hope you don't take it that way. I just felt what I said needed to be said, from one long-time seeker to another, who relates to your story in many ways.
 
^I'm with MDAO, but I'm probably going to take a tone that's much different from what MDAO feels comfortable with.
OP, you're being a dick, just be friends with people around you or be alone and quit yer bitchin. Lord knows you wouldn't be the first loner we've ever seen.
 
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My lifestyle is superb. I am deeply into yin yoga as well as eastern thought at the moment, and I'm in it for life. I work out daily and eat like a king, all healthy food.

So there must have been a point in your life you were eating unhealthy and decided to work on that?

Well, a lot of people just seem to live overall unhealthy lifestyles I guess. Fast food and all that shit.



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I was abusing alcohol for a while but I've known for a long time that it is the most harmful drug in existence.

So there must have been a point in your life you were abusing alcohol and were a hedonistic person?

Everyone seems to love drinking. Not me, I am doing my best to get the most out of life these days [...] How do people go out every weekend getting wasted as fuck


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It revolved around marijuana addiction. [...] it was making me extremely lonely among other things. It was weakening my mind severely.

So there must have been a point in your life you were addicted to marihuana and were a mindless, unenlightened, egoistic stoner?

I am wondering, how the hell are people so unaware? How can people just go to church like zombies and be all egotistical about it and see themselves as spiritually progressed while they have never even thought outside the box?


Don't you see the irony in all of this? All what you despise (and consider "lower") is PART OF YOU. You're not above the others, your ego is revolting towards itself and not accepting itself. How can a person be so arrogant [4] and call himself "spiritual and enlightened" if one hasn't even learned to accept himself? So my advice for your spiritual quest would be: try to look beyond your own constructed identity and learn to respect people for what they are, because they are what you are too.


[4] I am very humble but I must say that I am well advanced beyond my age.
 
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I am wondering, how the hell are people so unaware? How can people just go to church like zombies and be all egotistical about it and see themselves as spiritually progressed while they have never even thought outside the box?

I think of church to others as meditation to the self while including the presence of a saviour to help them in their path to God. Have you ever meditated heavily and felt an extreme high during the process? When people close their eyes and open their heart to God, they get the "high" feeling also, imagining His presence floating into them and warming their bodies.

This makes them feel progressed. You, also, feel spiritually progressed by the external realizations about life. The more truly spiritually progressed you become, however, the less you speak of it and the less your ego keeps its grip on you.

That's what usually happens, anyway.

Show peace to your fellow humans. They face the same pains as you and from this standpoint of eyes viewing words, they face the same self suffering as you also.
 
anybody that can write more than one sentence about their spirituality, without feeling a liar, is probably lying to themselves...

I agree. I have felt like this for a while now. It's somewhat hard to articulate why but I guess it comes down to words being meaningless and inadequate. In my opinion the only way to convey your "spirituality" are your actions and "vibe", everything else is just meaningless. I have recently encountered people who just love to express(by words) their supposed state of spirituality and what not, it's just booooring 8)

Here's a concept for a spiritual journey. First you figure whats what, then you do shit and finally you take a brief moment to ponder what the fuck. Rinse and repeat!

As a side note the op should go to a psytrance party to meet like minded people. Usually there you can find shit ton of people who in their supposedly high spiritual state hate on everyone else not similarly advanced as they. lol. "typical commoners" very humble indeed, hehe.
 
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^Hippies or neo hippies or whatever they call themselves can be just as dogmatic and common in their way of thinking, though you'll probably have similar ideas to bounce off one another. Couldn't hurt, but I wouldn't put too much stock in what the majority of people there have to say.
Advice:
Be compassionate, go with equanimity (it's a word the Dalai Lama uses a lot, I think it means respond to situations and people as evenly as possible. Don't be subject to the whims of your fickle emotions, or what society tells you to do in a given situation), constantly train the mind,
Other than that there's recommendations like: Travel frequently, have conversations with people to try and get to know them deep down (but don't stay attached to these conversations, just store them up as a catalog through your life), move on and don't have your head in the past as much as you can help it, and so on...The number one thing is to never be dogmatic in your thinking.
 
Instead of considering yourself to be a spiritual being, why don't you read up on some science and practical philosophy sonyou can make something of yourself. People that claim to be humbly spiritual tend to be self centered or completely out of touch with life. Learn advanced mathematics, quantum physics.
Nothing is going to bring as deep of an understanding as learning about the 'real' world. Spirituality is a term used by people that want to elevate themselves above others. Study up on space-time and come back when you have a real understanding of the universe.

Edit: You mentioned psychedelics and kundalini meditation. All future posts by OP are deemed invalid. Psychedelics are a false form of spirituality. They are 5H2a receptor agonists. Drugs are not the gateway to bardo, or bhrama proper. Your post reeks of new age self centered bullshit. Reminds me of when I was a young lad before I came to the understanding that eastern thought, like most religious practice is complete bullshit. How about you focus on the life you are living and those around you, instead of intellectualizing yor spirituality and putting yourself on a pedistal above us heathens.
 
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