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Adding ingrediants to e cig liquid

jameskpoke

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Havent seen any threads about this on search so I wanted to ask if anyone has tried adding anything to their e cig liquid. i mixed in a little etizolam in pg solution in mine and it seems to be working fine (didnt put much). i was thinking of maybe puting a little syrian rue extract in a different one as well. the ingredients are just 50% vegetable glycerine, 50%propylene glycol and nicotine. could you just put any substance soluble in propylene glycol or veg glycerin in there and it would work or would that just mess it up? im not worried about buying another atomizer theyre cheap as hell. also what substances would be soluble that could be vaporized if it works? thanks
 
I have a lot of theories on this but every thread that anyone tries to start about this seems to get shut down immediately....We have threads about breaking down fentanyl patches for IV, threads about purifying cocaine and heroin, but for some reason threads about using drugs with an e-cig vaporizer are off-limits...I don't know what to tell ya...

Personally, I think trying to vaporize a etizolam solution would be completely pointless, but that's just a guess....
 
i was thinking more along the lines of rc's of some sort. nothing like heroin coke or anything where there's a great danger of overdosing. sorry if i'm breaking the rules or something. i probably am wasting my time putting etiz in there tho. i only used it cause it was already in a pg solution

edit: i dont see anything against the rules about this topic?

one more edit:) i was mostly considering adding a full spectrum kratom, pure 7oh, or possibly kava extract tincture, nothing hardcore
 
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damn i was hoping somebody would have more information about this i think i will try it with either a kratom/7-OH extract or mxe and report back.
 
Douple-Post; sorry guys i just wokr up and the drugs are kicking :|

I dont think think you will be causing much harm in doing this little experiment just dont go overboard and use it too much incase something is bad for use but to me it seems like anything soluble in those solutions would work. Maybe you can be our guienne pig and put something nice like mxe or somethin in there and tell us how it goes, just make sure to get the ratios right to be safe.
 
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I've had the same idea actually. Although with harmaline/tetrahydroharmine/harmine extracted from the plant sources in the lab.

E-fags are pretty different in effect to smoking tobacco, tobacco contains small quantities of beta-carboline MAOIs which modify the effects of the nicotine. Pure nicotine on its own, apparently, is not all that addictive, so I have read. So perhaps reintroducing the beta-carbolines would restore the reinforcing properties of the nicotine, making it similar to tobacco, yet without the lung-trashing carcinogenic smoke.
 
An MXE solution worked surprisingly well and gave a very unique and different kind of high - subtle, slowly building up, and more psychedelic with less noticeable motor coordination impairment.
 
Smoking MXE?
This some strange joke thread I don't understand?

I got in trouble for asking about smoking seroquel which I had read on another board, I really wouldn't want to try smoking MXE at all.
 
vaporizing mxe, not smoking it... works fine. anything that is normally smoked for its effect can be vaporized. however it would be smart to use a high-end vape pen that allows you to change the temperature, since these chemicals all burn at different temperatures. i have only done this with heroin, but i think i can give you some advice on doing it with other chems. first off, obviously look up the vaporization temperature of your chemical of choice. if it is higher than the temperature recommended to effectively vaporize your nicotine juice, you should use less nicotine juice relative to the chemical. you want enough juice to dissolve the chemical (which in heroin's case is quite a lot), but too much juice and you'll be burning up that juice to the point where you hurt your throat and lungs too much to inhale enough chemical. and if the temperature is lower than that required to vaporize your juice, use a generous amount of juice relative to the chemical. the thing you have to consider is that if you put a dose of the chemical in there, you're going to have to inhale the entire cartridge to get the full dose. this is why i used to put 10 times the dose i was trying to get. there's not much danger for overdose because the chemical will absorb immediately when you smoke it. you'll know when you're starting to feel it, and you'll definitely know when you're on the level at risk for overdose. i've never heard of overdoses on 7-ho-mitra but im sure its possible, but probably very difficult to do with this route. of course you need to find out the solubility of your chemical of choice in your nicotine juice's solvent. to my knowledge all nicotine juice is oil, so if you can't find the specific solubility, just use your logic. if you can get high off the chemical by gumming it or putting it under your tongue, then it obviously permeates mucous membranes (made out of lipids), so it will definitely be soluble in most oils. some chemicals that have very low sublingual bioavailability will still be soluble enough to get high this way if you use enough chemical relative to juice.

in summary, it should be fairly easy for you to find the temperatures necessary to vaporize most chemicals youre trying to do, as well as their relative solubilities. if that fails, use common sense and experimentation. of course, you shouldn't play guinea pig if you're about to do a dangerous chemical. benzodiazepines are variable in their lipid soluble, but i know midazolam is extremely lipid soluble. it would not be dangerous to do a shit ton of midazolam this way. you would have to inhale hundreds, if not thousands of cartridges to actually die, though you may pass out haha. i really have no idea. with regards to opiates, most of the familiar phenanthrenes have poor solubility, even heroin and hydromorphone. fentanyl (and related chems) and etorphine-based phenanthrenes generally have much better solubility. fentanyl shouldn't be too much of a challenge (even with the current matrix patches, you can extract it nearly pure with IPA) but good luck getting pure etorphine or buprenorphine lol. then with regards to MAOIs, i don't know their lipid solubility. just look it up, i'm sure it's out there.
 
damn yeah i knew mxe would well for this; unfortunately not researching mxe anymore though due to excessive research and some strange side observations.

i remember a vendor mentioning that he had created a device that could vaporize any substance. dont remember what kind of solution he used but i dont think it was pg or vg. i havent seen him around in a long time tho.

There are local shops who now carry liquids containing caffeine, caffeine and guarana, or melatonin.
 
have some wax and it definitely doesn't work in the e cig; its just too gummy and almost solid. if it was more liquid, maybe. from what im reading it seems nicotine vaporizes around 250-300 degrees Fahrenheit. thc vaporizes more around 325. i dont think the e cig even gets this hot i think it gets just hot enough to vaporize the pg/vg solution into a mist and the nicotine stays dissolved in the droplets as it travels into the lungs. im not really sure tho. but if im right then that would mean any drug capable of dissolving in the solution could theoretically be vaped.
 
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