Addicted to the Internet? Endogenous opioids might be why

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While there is a certain grand mystery to some aspects of human behavior, others can be easily explained. Just find yourself a garden-variety house cat, along with a $10 laser pointer.

Many cat owners know that the lasers are the easiest way to keep the pet amused. The cats will ceaselessly, maniacally chase it as it's beamed about the room, literally climbing the walls to capture what they surely regard as some form of ultimate prey.

Obviously, cats are hard-wired to hunt down small, bright objects, like birds. But since nothing in nature is as bright as a laser, they are powerless to resist its charms.

Cats and lasers are useful in explaining some of the more addictive aspects of Web use, including a recent occurrence on the site for Andrew Sullivan, a popular political blogger. Mr. Sullivan's blog doesn't follow the standard practice of making room for readers to add their own comments after each blog item. Curious if he should change his policy, he put the question to a vote.

Readers responded 60-40 against allowing comments. Even more striking than the fact that these readers were denying themselves a voice was the reason some of them gave for declining the offer: Like cats chasing a laser, they wouldn't be able to stop themselves.

"In truth we would rarely opt not to read them," said one reader. "Blog comments have the power to hammerlock one's attention. ... We'd be impotent to resist looking over the rantings and counter-rantings. ... Not only would comments be an incredible drain on one's time (especially if we check your blog several times a day from work), but it also exposes readers to the nasty underbelly of blogging."

What is it about a Web site that might make it literally irresistible? Clues are offered by research conducted by Irving Biederman, a neuroscientist at the University of Southern California, who is interested in the evolutionary and biological basis of the human need for information.

Dr. Biederman first showed a collection of photographs to volunteer test subjects, and found they said they preferred certain kinds of pictures (monkeys in a tree or a group of houses along a river) over others (an empty parking lot or a pile of old paint cans).

The preferred pictures had certain common features, including a good vantage on a landscape and an element of mystery. In one way or another, said Dr. Biederman, they all presented new information that somehow needed to be interpreted.

When he hooked up volunteers to a brain-scanning machine, the preferred pictures were shown to generate much more brain activity than the unpreferred shots. While researchers don't yet know what exactly these brain scans signify, a likely possibility involves increased production of the brain's pleasure-enhancing neurotransmitters called opioids.

In other words, coming across what Dr. Biederman calls new and richly interpretable information triggers a chemical reaction that makes us feel good, which in turn causes us to seek out even more of it. The reverse is true as well: We want to avoid not getting those hits because, for one, we are so averse to boredom.

It is something we seem hard-wired to do, says Dr. Biederman. When you find new information, you get an opioid hit, and we are junkies for those. You might call us 'infovores.' "

For most of human history, there was little chance of overdosing on information, because any one day in the Olduvai Gorge was a lot like any other. Today, though, we can find in the course of a few hours online more information than our ancient ancestors could in their whole lives.

Just like the laser and the cat, technology is playing a trick on us. We are programmed for scarcity and can't dial back when something is abundant.

The same happens with food: Because at one time we never knew when the next saber-toothed tiger might come along for food, it made sense to pack on the calories whenever we chanced upon them. That's not much help in today's world of snack aisles and super sizes.

Using computers traditionally has been associated with Mr. Spock-style cerebration, the ultimate kind of left-brain activity. But Dr. Biederman is just one of many researchers now linking it with some of the oldest parts of the human brain.

A group of Stanford University researchers, for example, recently found gender differences in the brains of computer gamers. Males showed more neural firings, suggesting that they were physically experiencing the game in a manner different from women.

Watching a cat play with a laser, you realize the cat never learns there is no real "prey" there. You can show the cat the pointer, clicking it off and on, and it will remain transfixed.

Indeed, while cats find a causal link between the pointer and the shimmering light, they come to a wrong conclusion. They believe the pointer is the container that holds the prey, and that the critter is released once the cat's owner gets the pen down from the shelf and starts to wave it around.

People presumably are smarter than cats, and as we become more familiar with the Web and its torrent of information, maybe we'll do a better job learning what is useful and what isn't.


Why We're Powerless
To Resist Grazing
On Endless Web Data

Wall Street Journal
March 12, 2007


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While I'd tentatively agree that 'feast or famine' attitudes toward resources are instinctive in us, and information is argulably a tangible resource (and arguably not), this statement made me take a long pause:

Today, though, we can find in the course of a few hours online more information than our ancient ancestors could in their whole lives.

Now, I'm aware that information can be quantified, even though that's not my intellectual cup o' joe at all. But it seems to me that comparing new information in the natural world with new information comprised of written language and man-made images is an apples and oranges problem. How can you definitively say that primitive people processed fewer bytes of information in their brains about their worlds than a modern-day netsurfer? After all, you can always explore the familiar in greater detail than you did before. In fact, if you look at people exposed to high levels of boredom, such as prison inmates, you find that many of them do just that. When quantity and breadth of new information is lacking, they go for quality instead, finding new things about old information, as a coping mechanism.

Also, I'm pretty sure primitive peoples still had some fairly reliable sources of novety and ambiguity in their day to day lives, such as storytelling and mythmaking (talk about interpretable information!), gossip, tribal politics, new environmental adversities to be dealt with, etc. They even had sports and art forms. I find it hard to believe boredom was much of a problem for them.

By the same token, breadth of information on the net doesn't necessarily involve depth of information. Sure, I've fallen into many a wiki-hole myself, but my knowledge of the subjects I read about is pitifully shallow. I'm still not convinced that a person who uses the net gets more information than somebody who's completely unplugged.

This article reminds me of the most logically defensible reason I don't like evolutionary psychologists -- when they write for the general public, they often blur the line between pure speculation about something they couldn't possibly measure or test (their collective mythos about prehistoric man's behavior), and solid scientific hypotheses backed up by test results. The brain scans of people looking at pictures are solid scientific data. The paucity of new information in primitive societies is pure speculation. Off the top of my head, I can come up with a number of different interpretations of this brain scan data, none of which involve or necessitate imagining what life was like on the African savannah.
 
While I'd tentatively agree that 'feast or famine' attitudes toward resources are instinctive in us, and information is argulably a tangible resource (and arguably not), this statement made me take a long pause:

Information is, to our line, the most important resource around. How can it not be defined as a tangible resource? I mean, you can accumulate it, lose it, trade it, and so forth. It can be gathered, from natural or artificial sources, like salt.

And if you have the right information and the right amount of it, you can explore new vantages of the world, and enhance your life tremendously. I cannot believe that my life is worse than a mestizo farmers in Brazil. Struggling to pull the bare necessities out of the land, never even gaining literacy, let alone utilizing a library or the internet, these lives are informationally famished.

I cannot believe that if we exported literacy more effectively, as well as creating new venues for the farmers so that less rainforest is wasted (using, of course, our gathered information), that their lives would not be improved substantially. Or to phrase this better, they would be happier had they been born into a more information rich environment.

If your argument is that information isn't tangible enough, then you must agree that there can be no physical representation of abstract information? If this is the case, then our brains alone defy that explanation, because they do actually physically hardwire all of our information in there, in much the same way that a computer physically hardwires its in (not physically but metaphorically). This information is physical, and real, the tangible extension of abstraction. Just because we can't scan a brain and download all the information (as a resource) doesn't mean we never will.

How can you definitively say that primitive people processed fewer bytes of information in their brains about their worlds than a modern-day netsurfer? After all, you can always explore the familiar in greater detail than you did before. In fact, if you look at people exposed to high levels of boredom, such as prison inmates, you find that many of them do just that. When quantity and breadth of new information is lacking, they go for quality instead, finding new things about old information, as a coping mechanism.

Alright. Bored people in information-poor environments look for as much information in the environment as they can, sort of like oil drillers in an oil poor world. Still a resource, just one readily available anywhere, even if you're in the most impoverished of environments. The best information, however, and the real pleasure, comes in an information-rich environment. No, you can't definitively say that our ancestors processed less data, because you can't measure that or observe it anymore. But really, if you examine it, logic seems to dictate that we do. In language alone, for example. My vocabulary is inherently more rich and varied than my ancestors, simply because their are more words, more tools to share ideas and information. The tools for trading in information alone take up a lot of our physical processing power, because if we lose only a little of our power we lose our ability to trade. Give someone some brain damage in the right place, and you can take away language, or writing, or any information you want. I'm not talking huge swaths of devastation either, I'm talking cutting tiny snips in the brain, leaving structure and thus info intact. You can erase skills and other information, even though it is still there physically, by losing some of your processing power.

Just reread that, and sorry if I sound combative, I'm just debating a little, and this article has definitely struck my interest.
 
It must be said that just because information is available doesn't mean that a person will integrate it into their own experience or learn anything. "UTFSE" being some support for that theory. I think it has more to do with visual cues and you can constantly change what you're seeing. People with ADD brains gets obsessed with the computer and fast changing situations. It's about using a natural priming for intaking survival information and it allows one to not be bored. Less about the information than the sensory input IMHO.

Peace,
PL
 
Less about the information than the sensory input IMHO.

The sensory input is encoded in brain cell structure and firing times as a form of information. Our minds are written in the language of neurons. They are the same, unless the brain is not encoding or interpreting the information properly anyway.
 
I do not think it unreasonable idea that gathering information would release endogenous opioids to reinforce the behaviour. After all, the main theory for the evolution of man's larger brain was to understand social structure in ape society in order to manipulate it to breed. Thus, if one was able to 'gather more information' about the society, it would be a plus to the individuals fitness, so a mechanism to reinforce this seems pretty plausible to me.

Though I agree, the idea that primitive man had 'less information' seems a bit of a presumption. But I think the general idea seems reasonable.
 
Study boils down to: People would rather look at interesting pictures instead of boring ones.

This is a joke right?
 
garuda said:
Study boils down to: People would rather look at interesting pictures instead of boring ones.

This is a joke right?


the internet provides easily accessible and vast amounts of information and images. humans like convenience, easy access, and stimulation. it's a good fit for us hedonists.
 
pseudoscience

Scientists make claims that we "may be hardwired" to do this or that all the time -- when they say these kinds of things they're not giving scientific "data" or "facts", they're just passing on pseudoscientific hypotheses they know will make the news. The truth is, science is about as far from understanding human behavior and decision making as Newton or Copernicus were from understanding quantum uncertainty.

This article does raise some interesting questions about what attracts people's attention to comments, but it doesn't come to any supportable conclusions. It would be more meaningful to look at the way comments attract attention in terms of how people want to connect with each other's views, create shared interpretation, define understanding of social issues, and define their communities in the new worlds created by the internet, rather than jumping to conclusions about how our brains are "hardwired".

The real problem comes down to quantifying "information."

Who would know more:
A tribesman in the Amazon who speaks 4 languages, knows how to use and identify 500 medicinal herbs, knows which animals are good too eat/are poisonous, can repeat verbatim hundreds of traditional stories, knows every trail on 400 square miles of land, etc?
A physicist who is developing new computational measures analyzing the red shift effect?
A "Rain Man" type savant who's memorized 20 phonebooks and knows pi to the 300,000th mark, but doesn't know how to order a hamburger at mcdonald's?

Information can be defined in bytes or in pertinence, but these definitions yield entirely different results.

I agree technology can confuse us, make us fixate on the unimportant, etc, and we shouldn't assume more information is always better. But we need to look at the social context in figuring out solutions. What are people trying to do when they read comments endlessly? Avoid work? Find community? Make fun of others?

Just saying we're hardwired to space out reading everyone's views is lazy research justifying lazy internet use.
 
article is vague, but everyone enjoys certain actvities that raise endorphin levels that can end up in opiate receptors....not at a hih livel like shooting smack, but this is not really an end all fact here. This is just how humans act
 
Druidus said:
The sensory input is encoded in brain cell structure and firing times as a form of information. Our minds are written in the language of neurons. They are the same, unless the brain is not encoding or interpreting the information properly anyway.

Degree of retention or plasticity has little to do with this. All input is information. That was not the point. People were referring to information as specific facts that one could learn about something. I was making the distinction that it has less to do with learning and more to do with keeping the mind busy.
 
garuda: The point is finding the common properties of interesting images.

While guinnesseal has a point, I do find the position of the article plausible. I feel somewhat more "normal" on low doses of opioids (though I was only a light user and have stopped for now). I'm also massively addicted to the internet, to the near exclusion of all other non-obligatory activities.

I'm on vacations right now and as the first thing in the morning, I check for news and replies on the net even though I very well know that I won't be able to drag myself away from it and won't get anything done for hours or even for the whole day.

I know this correlation is far from being a real argument; maybe I'm just looking for another justification of self-pity.
 
^double the fun. :)

I don't know, I always just assumed that I was addicted to reading. The internet provides such fast and wide variety of grouped words that I find myself using the internet perhaps favorably at a 2:1 ratio compared to books.

They both give me the same warm fuzzy feeling inside, assuming the material being read is of any merit.
 
I like the implications of this. It makes total sense that new information gets you high. Gathering new information is one of the most important survival devices around. Pre-historic homo sapiens (which represents the major bulk of our development) had an endless amount of things to do, but they were limited to their surrounding environments' materials and the input of ideas and labor from their clan (or whatever system they lived in). As human populations grew, labor, access to raw materials, and information from other people grew as well.

Right now we are at the historical apex of access to raw material, information and labor. The three work with each other to create the system in which we now live. And dopamine reward systems are partly to thank. Fascinating :)
 
All I know is I have only been on the internet for about months ~ since October 2007. And I now find myself hopelessly addicted. Hell, I haven't been outdoors or even dressed in so many days - -- - - - am I sick????

Coming soon to a neighborhood near you ~ Internet Intervention!
 
Oh, don't worry, after half a decade or so you will kinda get bored of it for a few hours, at times...
 
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