Stimulants Adderall overdose???

[Shittoothkillas]

I got some 30 mg adderall a from a fried the other day, I have been getting panic attacks a lot the past few months and my friend said they would help. ( my PCP suggested I try adderall but is dragging his feet with the script) anyhow, I took 15 mg at 3:00, didn't notice anything so took 30 mg 1 1/2 hours later. Didn't really feel an effect. At 5:30 BAM! I got hit by a ton of friggin bricks. Skin went cold, turned pale ( Casper pale), my HR shot up to 134 (normally 66). , BP in right arm shot up to 134/110, and left arm 156/112 my BP is normally 122/68. Aside from that began the scary shit. I began losing/blurred vision in left eye, intense "head pressure, intense chest pressure with intermittent sharp shooting pain in the region of my heart. I projectile vomited 15-20 times in a two hour span (while I'm trying to do everything humanely possible to A. Not die and B. not go to the friggin ER. Next came uncontrollable diarrhea. I had what my friends and I call "the jitters" like when we take coke those brief moments where you freak out/anxiety bc you can't form a sentence, my movements were "spastic" and difficult to control. What really had me scared is I could not for the life of me catch my breath. As little as just sitting up on my couch I would gasp for air, very weak feeling as we'll. I finally made the call to have my wife drive me to the ER right after I broke out In a cold sweat and my fever spiked to 100.6. Guys I just signed up today to BL , this is my first tread. What the hell did I do wrong? I've taken all kinds of shit in the past. Coke, snort riddlin, opioids, weed, shrooms,LSD, extacy, etc...etc. I've never experienced anything remotel close to this. PS all testing at hospital came back 100% good health, blood work, chest X-ray, EKG, cerebellar testing, they checked for stroke u name it. ER doc gave me script for anti nausea med. I suggested to her about giving me Ativan, bitch gave me one 1 mg pill. Told me if I wanted more follow up with PCP, can't get in to his office for 3 weeks. Anything else I can take for anxiety? This all occurred 3 days ago and instill feel like "donkey ass".
Looking forward to hearing some insight! Thank you in advance for helpin a brother out. THOUGHT I WAS DYING

 

[LSDMDMA&AMP]

amphetamine overdose is very rare.
and 45mg isn't enough to kill a healthy person.
you just freaked out.
anxiety attack if i had to guess

 

[LilikoiMoon]

What you took was probably extended/time release, which is why it took a while for you to feel anything. In the future, learn the dangers of re-dosing on any medication and deadly drug combos, please.

Hope you're feeling better today.

It's not so much OD you have to worry about with AMPS, it's the very dangerous side effects such as heart palps, HBP, etc.

 

[Zerwas]

I have been getting panic attacks a lot the past few months and my friend said they would help.

Pardon me but your friend is an idiot for suggesting uppers in that circumstance. Hope you feel better now.

 

[Shittoothkillas]

Update: just got call from ER. I have a severe gastrointestinal viral infection

Maybe it wasn't the adderall afterall. I took some adderall inconjunction with lorazepam .5 mg today and feel absolutely fine, focused, happy, euphoric, a lot of energy. I did get a script for Lorazepam .5 mg (10 pills only) but it's a start in the right direction. To answer lillikoimoon, they were def not time released. To answer Zerwas' comment, although I totally agree my friend is an idiot but for other reasons daily not for giving me adderall. I went to him to seek it out bc I knew he had it. My primary care physician is the one who suggested that in combination with some sort of benzo ( no mention of which one yet) he was prescribing me adderall for my anxiety attacks and difficulty concentrating.

Any thoughts? Thanks for commenting everyone!

 

[Shittoothkillas]

Lillikoimoon, what did you mean by AMPS? Amphetamine ?

 

[f33lg00d]

Amphetamines worsen anxiety. I would recommend someone like yourself to not use them- i'd get a new doctor too if he recommend them.

 

[Keif' Richards]

Your friend who recommended amphetamines for panic disorder really did you a disservice.

The dose you ingested is nowhere near extreme, but some people are hyper-sensitive to amphetamines. For the average person, the therapeutic range for amphetamines can be pretty wide. I knew a kid who got scripted 80-100mg a day from some crooked mail-order type doctor.

I'd stay away from the amphetamines or at least titrate your dose down a little bit in the future.

 

[LilikoiMoon]

Oh, I saw ER, thought you meant extended release, now I see emergency room. *slaps forehead*

Amps - short for amphetas.

I agree with everyone who says AMPS are bad for anxiety. When I took Addys years ago, they made me grind my teeth bad. Plus, major, major upset stomach the first few weeks on them.

Gotta love the ER everything is a virus there.

 

[Zopharr]

I know I'm a few days late here, but I wanted to chime in on this particular "beginning."

Please... if you happen to read this, do yourself a favor and listen to this little piece of advice from someone who's worn your shoes before:

The choices you make regarding your recent onset of (what I presume to be) generalized panic attacks can very easily change the landscape of the next few years of your life. Judging by your post, I'm assuming you aren't having premeditated attacks... in other words, they just suddenly happen out of the blue. Since the original posting was somewhat vague, I'll describe my own experience in the hopes that at least *someone* can relate. If I'm way off, I apologize.

When I was about 22/23 (about four years ago), I made a mistake that literally changed my mind and body forever... and it wasn't even a "mistake," a miscalculation, an overdose, or anything of the sort. While abusing my adderall script as usual (aka binging my whole script in a week's time [about 100mg a day]), I went over to my cousins place to do what I usually do while speeding my face off: play video games until my brain melts. The problem? I decided to partake in another usual activity of mine: smoking a joint.

1 joint... 40mg of adderall... 4 YEARS of debilitating GAD and GPD. That night changed everything. I'm not sure why, and I'm not sure how... but ever since that night I've had reoccuring spontaneous panic attacks. Intense, "omfg. OMFG. Am I dying?!" panic attacks. No warning*, no reason... just pure unadulterated terror focused entirely on the fact that I'm having a panic attack. One minute I'm watching TV, the next I'm staring at the ceiling monitoring my breathing and telling myself to relax. The attacks, while sporatic at best, are/were life changing. They consume the mind like no outside stimulus can. Words can do no justice here....

... but wait. What the f*** does any of this matter? Well... actually, I guess all that was irrelevant. Whatever. Okay, onto the point:

Over the course of a few years, I was in the ER probably 6-10 times for these panic attacks. Each and every time, I thought to myself... "This is it. This isn't a panic attack. I'm dying." Obviously this wasnt the case, but eventually I realized that I needed to do something to stop the attacks. One thing that I'd realized through all my visits was that every one of them ended with being sent home with an Ativan or two. For this reason and this reason alone, I decided to ask my doctor about it.

Biggest. Mistake. EVER.

I'd found the magic pill-- it cured my symptoms *completely*, took away the side effects of adderall that weren't fun, made me sleep like I'd never slept before (but only when I wanted to), and seemed to be the answer to all of my problems.

BZZZZZZZZZZZT. BZZT BZZT BZZZZT. MOTHERF***ING BZZZZZTTTTT.

I'd unleashed the devil drug. No one told me just what I was getting into.... until someone stole my pill bottle.

Trust me when I say that if you're worried about your BP and heart rate from a normal panic attack, then you do NOT NOT NOT NOT NOT want to experience the HELL ON EARTH that is a benzo-withdrawal induced panic ASSAULT. You also do NOT NOT (ok, you get it) want to have said panic ASSAULT last for 13 weeks... but it can... and it will.

... if you let it.

There are many ways to cure anxiety, and each person responds differently to different approaches... but one thing stands as a constant: Benzo addiction is REAL, and you'll never know it's a part of your life until you try to stop taking them.

My warning, summed simply: Do not use benzos as a daily cure for your recent troubles, no matter how well it "solves" the problem. Use them in case of emergency (for when you've lost control), but not as a genuine fix. Yes, they ARE going to seem like the ultimate cure for your attacks, but do yourself a favor and exhaust all other options first.

I'm not sure why I decided to tell you this randomly, but I suppose it couldn't hurt. I only say it all because I wish that someone had done the same for me back then... could've avoided some of the worst moments of my existence if only I'd known.

(Sorry if this post is annoying to read, I'm pretty beat)

 

[stonedboss]

First, you should never redose within hours just because you have not felt the pill with any type of drug. If you had anything in your stomach, it will not reduce the adderall effect much at all, it will only delay it significantly (as you know now). Yeah I agree with everyone here that you should not be on adderall. Also, your doc is stupid for trying to counter the anxiety of adderall with benzos (although I know a lot of docs do this, they are all stupid). Benzos cause difficulty concentrating as a side effect, so if anything stop taking benzos.

If you really want something for concentration, try out ritalin instead of adderall. Although I still do not recommend even using ritalin, if you are dead set on some stimulant meds then ritalin doesn't stimulate you nearly as much. "like when we take coke those brief moments where you freak out/anxiety" Why are you trying to take stimulants if they keep giving you anxiety though? If you are getting panic attacks, the last thing you should want to take are stimulants.

"People with [anxiety] disorders have highly sensitive systems; hence, their systems tend to overreact to seemingly harmless stimuli."
"Low levels of GABA, a neurotransmitter that reduces activity in the central nervous system, contribute to anxiety."

Basically natural anxiety is tied in with extra CNS activity. What stimulants like adderall and ritalin do is increase CNS activity. So you are practically doubling your anxiety.

On a side note, I highly recommend against benzos to help out with your GABA transmitters. Benzos over-correct and start turning off more activity than you would want, hence the loss of memory and difficulty in concentration as a side effect of long-term use.

Edit:

I only say it all because I wish that someone had done the same for me back then... could've avoided some of the worst moments of my existence if only I'd known.

Just read your post haha. Besides the initial part (no amp abuse), my benzo experience was very similar. It was a magic drug for me too, then the next thing I know I am on it for a year daily. After realizing I turned into a zombie, I quit and went through 2 months of WD, and 2 1/2 years after quitting my mind still hasn't recovered back to full capacity. So I know the over-correction of turning off activity first hand. I definitely agree though^ and only wish someone had told me about the dangers before I had started.

 

[OnceABoneHead]

Just to chime in on panic attacks...Years ago, in a galaxy far, far away.... anyways, I was abusing opiates, and suddenly started getting panic attacks with the irregular heart beat etc. WTF??? That was NOT supposed to happen! .... Found out that not only stress, but Caffeine was also a trigger to the irregular heart beat. Stopped drinking Coffee and Tea and all sodas with caffeine in them and never had a panic problem again. screwed around with a few different flavors of drugs but went to Alcohol as a withdrawl cure-all.... Just forgot to stop drinking 30 years ago and finally realized, (sobered up enough), about a year ago that the booze was just as damaging to health and it was finally time to grow up and quit drinking also.