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Acid - Double/Triple Dipped; Is it all bullshit?

Psychadelic_Paisly

Psychadelic_Paisly

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Hey,
Been recently thinking about the way people keep trying to tell me that the acid is triple dipped etc. Maybe it's me being a cynic or BL has made me a jaded bastard ;) but I have to hold myself back from saying "yeah, whatever, maybe it's just strong stuff"

The way I see it, why wouldn't they just make the acid solution originally strong in the first place and have the blotter soak it up in one go. Surely the blotter doesn't only soak it up in 100ug lots =P

So is this just another crappy way to make the warez sound better or is there truth to this 'terminology'???
 
Yes, double dipping and sometimes triple dipping does occur. Because the product has a relative low cost to manufacture then repeated emersion into LSD containing liquid can be seen as a marketing tool.

Concentration of chemical, Paper type and quality as well as time in solution and drying proceedure can affect strength.
 
Without knowing for sure, I'd be inclined to think its bullshit. As you say Psychadelic_Paisly, why not just dip the blotter in a stronger solution to begin with, and save time...

Also, if you dip a blotter sheet that has already absorbed acid from a first dip, wouldn't dipping it into a solution again just redissolve the acid already absorbed as well as depositing some on the paper? I can't see the lsd content accumulating over three dips. Maybe there is a technique to it.

But you never know...Good catch-phrase if you wanna sound cool too, "Triple-dipped 'cid man, for sure, nothin' beats it." ;)
 
^^^ Not paying extra for it, that's for sure. It's just a common term I hear used a lot, even by seasoned trippers. I guess it's similar to 'double stacked' pills and stuff.

If it's really strong it's either 'double/triple dipped'... Guess you gotta expect that with the black market :p
 
Double-dipped LSD, double-stacked imported xtc pills, weed laced with stronger and more expensive drugs, etc ... as you said P_P, it's all about giving the impression they have more drug knowledge than you and strengthening the bluff (or the transfer of the 'story' behind the drugs from one dealer to another). I guess people just like to have drugs with a personality or a history that shows they have come from some really pro criminals. No longer is it enough to feel the risk and thrill of obtaining black market drugs to enjoy - in order to be 'cool' the drugs have to be rare too!

BigTrancer ;)
 
i read that link to totse...

http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/psychedelics/acid.html

most of that read was a load of crap.

"you cant fall asleep while you're on the drug because you're so stimulated" totally untrue, i know.

which came just after he claimed that it was "neither a depressant or stimulant, " and so couldnt cause a heart attack or death.

(sidenote - Im sure that erowid had a death recorded, from injection of like 44 milligrams (44,000 mikes) of it, anyway)

and im pretty sure that LSD is not a fungus from wheat, either... 8)

i also cannot comprehend how mixing strychnine with LSD would make it 'a more stable compound'. unless the strychnine changed the chemical make up, which clearly would result in something NOT LSD. (mods and chemist types, any info???)

I have no real technical knowledge on the matter, but i'd say that if you dipped once, let dry, and did a QUICK second dip, you would most likely notice the strength difference.

my reasoning is that the crystals that gather on the first dip would not leave the blotter in a quick dip through the matterial, and as such more would stick to the paper.

however i dont see dealers doing this. likely, who ever bought it or made it as liquid, would then pump out as many tabs as they could, as effortlessly as they could, hence: single dip and sell.

relate it to the pill market - lots of mediocre pills, pressers putting just enough in to sell them, then a few pressers who clearly want to do what they do well, and are making qual bikkies like butterflies, rolex's, the GOOD green mitzus and those notorious red ones.
There'd be enthusiasts out there who might double dip, but the average joe blow dealer turning liquid to tabs probably wouldnt bother. honestly, would you?

Peece.
 
and im pretty sure that LSD is not a fungus from wheat, either... 8)


I think you'll find that ergot is a fungus that attacks rye, wheat and other grasses. You will also find that Albert Hoffman was interested in developing medicines from compounds in ergot ;)

I have no real technical knowledge on the matter, but i'd say that if you dipped once, let dry, and did a QUICK second dip, you would most likely notice the strength difference.


A quick second dip, as opposed to a long one? How about a third one? The blotter would be near totally saturated. In my opinion, there would be no noticeable increase in effects.

however i dont see dealers doing this


That's right - but they often say it is, to either pump up the price of the product or to make it seem better than the rest.
 
http://www.totse.com/en/drugs/psychedelics/acid.html

"excess LSD is stored in fat cells, so when the druggie exercises, and fat is bur ned, he might trip (flashback)".
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WTF - i've seen better christian anti-drug websites then this boob

Closing: I have never taken acid in my entire life
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This is my favourite remark - seriously he writes a FAQ on LSD but has never taken it?

The liquid acid i've seen comes in a bottle. It has a dropper. The dropper gives you a drop which equals X amount or / a single dose. Perhaps if you get a piece of paper to absorb two drops then perhaps you would get a blotter that has two hits however would you lose acid in the drying process?

Either it all boils down to you have a blotter that is apparently strong. Start low, see how strong a small piece is and then build from there. Unless you access to quantitive testing then you'll never know how much acid was in it.

For that matter when reading trip reports and so on you see people remarking they had a 100ug trip blah blah. Unless their best mates with the manufacturer how would you know the actual quantity of LSD on a blotter/dot?



i miss acid
 
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Chugs; this was all just me mulling the theory over in my head. I've already had the acid, it was a getafix, so it was plenty strong =D

I was talking to a friend about them and I just nodded politely when they mentioned the 'triple dipped' factor and thought about what the BL group had to say on this

:)
 
I think it is all bullshit and that totse is full of fucking whacked out weirdo cunts trying to find a high out of household items...just a quick read of the forums will tell you that !!

And ALOT of bullshit synthesis for Meth too...haha lame cunts.
 
A long time ago I saw someone making tabs, it wasn't exactly the most profesional job but the paper did get double dipped. I have seen it with my own two eyes.
 
^^^^ Can you tell us the purpose of this? I can't fathom why they wouldn't have, say, a 300ug bath of LSD liquid, soak the sheet in it till it couldn't take up anymore, dry the sheet, voila.

Not saying it's true, but maybe the guys double dipped due to the 'myth' (if that's what it is) being out there???

hmmmm.... I just don't see the reasoning....

Phase Dancer, any ideas using chem etc.???
 
I dont know if that question was pointed at me? anywho, i dont know myself, but i can definatly find out for you ;)
 
There's no reason to "dip" blotter twice, unless the person doing it fucks it up somehow. The strength of the blotter is determined by (along with purity) the ratio of crystal LSD dissolved in pure alcohol, before the sheets are layed in the mixture. For example 1 gram of (theoretically pure) crystal LSD would make 10 000 doses at 100ug per dose.

Ten sheets of 1000 tabs are layed in solution then hung out to dry. The remaining product in the tray can be washed out with more pure alcohol and then consumed (or sold) as liquid LSD.

There's an amazing thread over at shroomery by Chinacat who explains in great detail the way crystal LSD is handled and layed onto blotter. Unfortunately you have to be a member and have a number of posts in order to view their "Other Drugs" forum where this thread is found. Definately worth the read if you've got the access.
 
A quick second dip, as opposed to a long one? How about a third one? The blotter would be near totally saturated. In my opinion, there would be no noticeable increase in effects
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Dimmo... YES, a quick second dip as opposed to a long one.

If you submersed it for a period of time (i reckon longer than maybe even 5 or 10 seconds) the first DRIED dipping would totally re-dissolve, and you'd take it out and it would dry with, effectively, the same sized hit as after the first time.

HOWEVER, if you dip a PRE-DIPPED and DRIED tab back into the solution just for a quick half second or so, a thin layer of liquid is going to cling to the tab (or sheet, i imagine you'd dip it BEFORE cutting the sheet into separate tabs).

As you take it out, after that half second dipping, that extra, small but extra, layer is going to soak into the already dipped tab/sheet as it dries.

i cannot see the difference being a DOUBLE hit, but i could see it being a noticeable, detectable difference. Remember, we're talking like, around a quarter of a milligram here, even the tiniest of blotters, 6 or 10 mm, is capable of absorbing a lot of liquid, and when you dry it you're freeing space for more to be absorbed again.

I read somewhere on erowid about DOB adulterated blotter being found by police in the US. DOB is active at 2 - 5 milligrams, so you can get about that much AT LEAST into a blotter. street acid would never be above 500ug i am assuming,(and generally far less than that) so there is room for a lot more in that blotter.

(imagine getting a 2mg blotter handed to you by your dealer. you'd be in for a ride that night(And the next day)).

Equally, If you had double strength liquid, or quadruple strength liquid, the blotter would soak up approximately the same amount of liquid, only there would be more LSD crystal in it when it dried. there is room for more dried crystal/powder whatever, just not more liquid, so as long as your second dipping doesnt allow for redissolving of the first dose, then it will improve its strength, i'd wager.

also -

and im pretty sure that LSD is not a fungus from wheat, either...
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I think you'll find that ergot is a fungus that attacks rye, wheat and other grasses. You will also find that Albert Hoffman was interested in developing medicines from compounds in ergot
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Yeah, but ergot is not ACID. Developed from, but not chemically equivalent to it. this guy spoke as if eating fungi ridden wheat would get you acid-tripping.

peece.
 
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