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RCs Ab-001, any info?

Areyouhappynow1

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Anyone have any information on this chemical, vendor just put it up and am curious. Not very good with my chemistry, but supposedly its a adamantyl analog of JWH-018 if that means anything at all.
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AB-001

According to this link, it seems likely that this drug has a higher affinity for CB2 receptors than CB1 receptors. This means it'll act as a better anti-inflammatory than it would a recreational cannabinoid; however, I don't see any Ki values... but honestly, if it has similar affinities to the drugs it's very much so related to, such as AM-1248.

I'm not sure if you're going to find Ki values for AB-001 quickly but, here's an ideal cannabinoid for recreational use which also has greater affinity for the CB2 receptor. It would work as an excellent anti-inflammatory while also being a full agonist with a higher affinity than THC for the CB-1 receptor.

Notice how greater the disparity between CB2 and CB1 affinities are for a drug like A-836,339.. with a CB2 value of 0.64nM for the CB2 receptor, versus 270nM at the CB1 receptor. This is a kind of futuristic anti-inflammatory drug, as it has very mild, possibly negligible effects at CB1, making it ideal for use in patients who don't want CB1 stimulation (although I love CB1 stimulation as I am as toner =D)

I believe THC is approximately 48nM for CB1 if I'm not mistaken; in the future if you are able to find Ki values, compare them to cannabis, to other RC cannabinoids, and make sure you won't be investing in a RC cannabinoid that will act mostly as an anti-inflammatory as it's nice to reduce inflammation, it won't get you high in itself. :)

My 2 cents; let someone else buy AB-001. Find a RC cannabinoid with listed Ki values so you can cherry pick the ideal RC cannabinoid you want. I personally would love a great CB2 affinity as I have chronic tendinitis and anti-inflammation is one of the reasons why I get medical weed.
 
Anyone tried this/ have more info? I'm getting some of this real soon and am curious on the potency and how it compares to some other potent CB2 agonists like UR-144, which I rather enjoyed. UR-144 wasn't devoid of any mental psychoactive effects, it actually had quite a bit at higher doses and even some dissociation with it. I'd love to see it have a potency similar to UR-144, activity in the single mg range, and hopefully a little longer duration than UR-144.
 
This is adamantoyl-JWH-018.

Should be copmarable to other JWH-series drugs that have 1-pentylindole and a bulky aroyl group. The closest drug in terms of SAR right now is UR-144, the tetramethylcyclopropanoyl version of JWH-018.
 
Do you think the potency is going to be similar? I find good activity with low to no cannabinioid tolerance at 4-16mg for UR-144 (16mg giving a strong mental high with the potential for some paranoia along with some dissociated thoughts). I'm hoping for a similar dosage range for AB-001. I guess when I get it in I'll start out with <.500mg vaped. Though I really would like to see some reports from other users as I'm a bit weary of being one of the initial folks giving it a try.
 
Can you go into more detail than that. That honestly really isn't helpful. I've heard it isn't that great on its own but mixes well with other cannabinoids.
 
sorry but the isnt a lot more to say than that it is all most inactive yes mixes nice with other noids but when there are so many others to chose from i really wouldnt waste your money on this one . all so watch it with these mam2201 n 5fur144 as they are just mostly uncut or less cut am2201 and ur144s getting sold as them
 
A good dose of this is around 5mg. Somewhat mild but unique feeling. Probably weak if you enjoy strong members of the synthetic cannabinoids, but this is nice if you prefer less strong experiences like myself.
 
Fools I'm assuming you use some of the higher potency noids semi regularly at least leading me to believe that someone with a higher cannabinoids tolerance will not get much from ab-001 unless large quantities are consumed which I wouldn't new scarily recommend with a noid we know nothing about
 
yes iv got a high tolerance but was rested from use the first time i tried this one . i dare say for some one who is just a once a week user it could be a nice little noid but truth is there are lots better out there so unless you really must try this one i wouldnt waste your money :)
 
It is to late for me to change my order as its on my way to my house so nothing ican do about that. Also considering how cheap it was, I'm not that upset. I have no cannabinoids tolerance ATM so I should be able to get some decent use out of it (hopefully), and if I need to combine it to ur-144 so be it.
 
So, before I had the cannabinoids in my hand, I filtered 2 10mg methadone pills while in soln., for nasal administration. I also took 1.5mg of clonazepam orally a handful of hours after administering the methadone (a handful of hours after the ~10 minute period till peak). The methadone dose was 10mg higher than I have been taking the last few days (just cutting down from 30mg/d for a few days before restarting that dose). This resulted in a little muscle relaxation (real nice after even light amphetamine use, ie low therapeutic dose with no high spread in 3 doses over yesterday.

-----------------;==: Has to be a small error in the single digit range.
I recently vaped ~8mg of AB-001. It seemed to require a higher temp than UR-144 by a little, and JWH-018 or JWH-250 by a large amount. It first melted down into a yellowish oil lighter than UR-144 heated. The oil than vaped cleanly leaving a thin white residue rather than a darker residue seen at least by me with UR-144. A little set of facts for those who are clueless on the compound, even more than me who threw my balls down to give it a go. It's a cannabinoid sharing structural similarities as JWH-018, though no real noticeable similarities in experience. The difference is an adamantane functional group instead of a naphthalene group clearly altering the receptor subtype selectivity (JWH-018 is a full agonist both CB1 and CB2 receptors with relatively similar affinities). Also AB-001 is similar to AM-1248, which both has an adamantane group, as well as a predicted similarity to receptor subtype selectivity. The adamatane functional group on derived indole cannabinoid ligands have been observed to exhibit high CB2 agonist selectivity. AB-001 however doesn't seem to have it's SARs data out, or maybe even research, so the CB2 selectivity is based off of other cannabinoid experiences synthetic and in the form of cannabis.

The drug has produced a solid indica like body stone like what I'd expect with a high potency CB2 agonism. I can feel a change in mental state, mainly involved with poor concentration/memory, with little sativa mental high or physical stimulation. It honestly has taken me an annoying amount of time to complete this post, even switching from my ipad one to my laptop. Granted I did stay up twenty for hours with my last dose of amphetamine salts at 11pm (I stayed up talking to a friend till 430am, who then called 15 minutes later, which required my attention. The sun not to soon later came up so I ended up just staying up, dosing the methadone ~5 hours ago (12:00, its about 5:00pm now). As the sun grew stronger I become more awake, so no sleep was undertaken. I took then the clonazepam 3hours ago around 2:00pm. I can say so far It's a pretty decent high that's slightly less potent than UR-144, but I'll have to see how the tolerance climbs over time. I honestly enjoy it. I could see it being fantastic with a nodding dose of an opioid a more sedating opioid like oxymorphone, heroin, or hydrocodone at the end of an evening. OF course I can't tell how the duration is as I'm still peaking after a 5 to 10 minute period to peak. Also, at this dose, ~8mg, their is less of a mental high than what would be seen with UR-144 where there is little to no cannabonoid tolerance at this period in time. UR-144 has an interesting mental high when its doses are at the higher scale for your individual tolerance, with a slight dissociation, yet with a more typical sativa influenced high underneath. Usually with dissociatives I don't get any anxiety, but I have with the UR-144 from the mental high, similar to what I can experience with a strong sativa.

I'm gonna sit back and chill for a bit, then work on finishing my resume in the near future. I'll likely report back not to long from now. Its just to slow of a process to write decent posts on BL right now.
 
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Man AB-001 goes, so well with UR-144 and is amazingly trippy. It had alot of auditory hallucinations as well; I didn't put on music because it sounded like there was music playing in my room, so I just laid there and chilled.
 
This is adamantoyl-JWH-018.

Should be copmarable to other JWH-series drugs that have 1-pentylindole and a bulky aroyl group. The closest drug in terms of SAR right now is UR-144, the tetramethylcyclopropanoyl version of JWH-018.
that sounds interesting, could you please explain in more detail why this SAR analogy is so close?

I guess the comparison with amantadine doesn't lead to any insights, because any NMDA-antagonistic action would require much higher doses than the doses needed for cannabinoid action?
 
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