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Heroin A question you probably never heard

The red could have been blood? We don't allow speculative threads like this, I'm sorry about what happened to you but this is not OD material.
 
Reopening this thread at the OP's request and denial of speculation. Benefit of the doubt being given, will revisit this thread in the morning. Apologies for inconvenience, 'night BL!
 
I don't see any reason for this thread to stay open, I have no idea why or how the OP feels comfortable revealing so much personal information about his source of drugs, and I'm going to close this thread once the OP says he got his question answered...

@OP, you wanted your thread reopened, it's been reopened, and my best judgement still says this thread should be closed, but we'll give you a chance to report back first.
 
Well im glad this wasn't closed yet because i attempted this whole purifying deal and i got to the step where the layers are supposed to separate but this failed to happen and now I'm left with one clear solution in a sealed bag, i don't know why but it failed to separate. The redness is completely gone but the ph is measuring way high, i have the paper strips where green means no ph and red is high, and it is a solid red. Did i add too much chloroform? Also is there anything i can do with this solution or did i just waste another half gram?
 
I don't see how i gave too much personal info. All i said is that I'm from wisconsin. But thank you for not closing as im totally frustrated with trying to purify and clean this dope since i still have almost 5 grams of it. I do apologize about my hostility earlier tricomb, i was just upset because i was right in the middle of figuring this out when you first closed it.
 
Unless you really know what you're doing and are a trained chemist, trying to purify your dope like that is only going to probably make it more unsafe.

Next time, put your dope immediately into a condom or something if you have to swallow it, that way you can at least get it back without destroying it.

I'd just throw shit shit away and take the loss, as sucky as that sounds.
 
Dboy1987 said:
Well im glad this wasn't closed yet because i attempted this whole purifying deal and i got to the step where the layers are supposed to separate but this failed to happen and now I'm left with one clear solution in a sealed bag, i don't know why but it failed to separate. The redness is completely gone but the ph is measuring way high, i have the paper strips where green means no ph and red is high, and it is a solid red. Did i add too much chloroform? Also is there anything i can do with this solution or did i just waste another half gram?
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Although that tech for purifying heroin can be understood in theory with a bit of reading, when it comes to practical chemistry the techniques require a bit of trial and error to get the hang of.

I really don't know what went wrong, but I think you should cut your losses and get rid of that half g in chloroform.
Also the smaller the amount the harder it is to get good results.

A simpler way might be to

1. dissolve a g or two of the h in 2-3ml water

2. you probably need to correct the ph to neutral 7 with a small amount of baking soda - I imagine there is excess hcl acid in your dope from your stomach)

3. Run it through a .22 micron filter to remove bacteria. Use a 5ml syringe.

4. Allow the water to evaporate on a glass dish at room temperature or on very low heat. Don't go above 50 C.

5. Scrape the dope off the glass. It still isn't safe to iv, but safer. In theory the stomach acid should be neutralised so it shouldn't burn and bacteria should have been removed with the micron filter, but in practise...?
 
I loved your story. Ive never bought anything and only get my meds from my monthly script. Im too paranoid to figure our where to buy and your story confirmed my paranoia :)
 
It's all been said before, but I'd just like to reiterate... bacteria, stomach acid... yeah, definitely not a good idea to IV and I probably wouldn't sniff it either.
 
LilbabiC said:
Here you go but, as I said if you aren't familiar with chemistry don't try it.

1.Dissolve the street heroin in water.

2.Use Hydrion pH papers to monitor the pH during this procedure. Add Sodium Hydroxide in solution dropwise while checking the pH. Use a narrow glass or plastic rod to touch a minimum of the drug solution to the paper to avoid loss. Stop when the pH reaches about 9.

3.Extract with chloroform. Chloroform is far superior to diethyl ether in that it is non-flammable and does not present storage problems, where explosive peroxides can be formed. Note: Chloroform is an ideal solvent for heroin, codeine, and most other opiates, with the major exception of morphine which requires a mixed solvent.

4.Separate the chloroform layer and wash with a minimum quantity of cold water: 1-2 ml works well. Evaporate the chloroform taking care not to burn the residue on the bottom of the beaker. Note: Chloroform is a known carcinogen, so plenty of ventilation (and a respirator) would be advisable. The chloroform is so volatile that this step is actually quite easy to perform.

5.Add a dilute solution of HCl dropwise while stirring with a glass rod. Monitor the pH closely. As the acid is being added, the diacetyl morphine base is being neutralized and converted into the water-soluble hydrochloride salt form.

6.When all the solid material has just dissolved, stop adding the HCl. I found that this takes place around pH 5-6. Note: If one tries to bring the pH all of the way up to 7, the free base alkaloid precipitates back out requiring addition of more HCl.

7.The resulting solution will be in an injectable form; it will now be completely clear with no colored impurities or particulate matter
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^^Exactly what I was going to say.. Amazing!
 
Wow. I know this was started last year, but this is possibly the most junky bullshit I have ever heard.

I mean are you fucking kidding me? Stomach acid? Natural selection should rightfully kick in on anyone trying something that outrageous.

And FYI, the bioavailability of oral diamorphine is dose dependent, and at high doses, it's 50-60%, and at very high doses it can exceed 70%.

That makes high-dose heroin administered orally about as effective as oral oxycodone(35-90%) yet, if this was oxy, no one would even say "I understand'.

Snorting isn't bad if it's good dope.

Even if every other way sucked, considering somewhat like that is ridiculous.
 
I think this hit the nail on the head!



LilbabiC said:
Here you go but, as I said if you aren't familiar with chemistry don't try it.

1.Dissolve the street heroin in water.

2.Use Hydrion pH papers to monitor the pH during this procedure. Add Sodium Hydroxide in solution dropwise while checking the pH. Use a narrow glass or plastic rod to touch a minimum of the drug solution to the paper to avoid loss. Stop when the pH reaches about 9.

3.Extract with chloroform. Chloroform is far superior to diethyl ether in that it is non-flammable and does not present storage problems, where explosive peroxides can be formed. Note: Chloroform is an ideal solvent for heroin, codeine, and most other opiates, with the major exception of morphine which requires a mixed solvent.

4.Separate the chloroform layer and wash with a minimum quantity of cold water: 1-2 ml works well. Evaporate the chloroform taking care not to burn the residue on the bottom of the beaker. Note: Chloroform is a known carcinogen, so plenty of ventilation (and a respirator) would be advisable. The chloroform is so volatile that this step is actually quite easy to perform.

5.Add a dilute solution of HCl dropwise while stirring with a glass rod. Monitor the pH closely. As the acid is being added, the diacetyl morphine base is being neutralized and converted into the water-soluble hydrochloride salt form.

6.When all the solid material has just dissolved, stop adding the HCl. I found that this takes place around pH 5-6. Note: If one tries to bring the pH all of the way up to 7, the free base alkaloid precipitates back out requiring addition of more HCl.

7.The resulting solution will be in an injectable form; it will now be completely clear with no colored impurities or particulate matter
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This question is more common then you think. In facgt its been asked a few times if you could shoot the capsules after shitting them out.
Generally the answer is no, its not worth the risk.


If yoj can afford to get 7.5g of heroin everytime you cop, just cop some more man. Why risk it. Or if anything, just sniff it.

Ive had a bundle in my ass crack after getting pulled over thatw as soaked with shitty ass sweat ant turked the heroin brown and clumpy.. still sniffed it nothing bad happened.
 
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