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IMPORTANT pill testing in a little more detail
With all the questionable reports surfacing on pillreports.com lately, and the increasing frequency of pressers attempting to fool test kits and testers, the following is some helpful information I have learned through trial and error. It's very important to note that it takes practice and even some research to be able to accurately determine whether or not a pill is worth consuming. Test kits come with instructions and they do inform you on what colors the reactions should be, but they do not go into enough detail. These days it is not uncommon for a presser to add a negligible amount of MDMA to a dirty or inactive pill, which would still produce a positive MDxx reaction. I am hoping this guide will help you to better understand your test results, and prevent some of you from being fooled in the future.
When testing pure MDMA, the results should look something like this:
Mecke:
Marquis:
Results should be concentrated. You are looking for a very dark puddle. Reaction time is extremely important as well. The instructions come with the appropriate times, but as a rule, they should be instant (the marquis does react a little slower then the mecke).
Here are some things to look out for:
These results can seem confusing, because all of the reactions produce the correct color changes. The watery results however do not suggest good things. Keep in mind, a low active dose would still give you a dense reaction with a solid black center. Here are the lab results for this pill, courtesy of ecstasydata.org:
- TFMPP: 3
- BZP: 1
- MDMA: 0.1
Size: 365 mg, 10.5 x 6.2
According to these ratios, with no binders, the most MDMA this pill could have is less than 10 mg, one tenth the standard single dose. Given that all pills have binders, it's safe to assume these pills had even less than that. Any effects one would feel from this pill would not be from the MDMA. Piperazines do not react with any of the reagents. Watery results like this indicate other substances that do not react to the reagents. Caffeine and piperazines are the most common, but it could also be a pill with a barely active dose of MDxx, such as the following:
Notice these results are somewhat similar. They are slightly better, but still very watery. The Mecke looks ok, but it reacts much easier than the Marquis, so it important to use both. The Marquis is usually the seller, so if you are only purchasing one reagent, this should be the one. Here are the lab results for this pill, again courtesy of ecstasydata.org:
- MDMA: 1
Size: 370 mg, 8.9 x 5.8
Upon first glance, this seems promising, but is important to note that "MDMA: 1" is not an indication of how much MDMA is actually in this pill. It is just a ratio of active ingredients, of which there are only one. This means that it could have 5 mg, or it could have 200 mg, there is no way to tell.
These were personally consumed, and did not do anything more than induce some nausea (perhaps from the binders, it is unclear). In pillreports.com commentary, one user wrote that they had consumed more than 10 in one night, and while they were rolling, they were still coherent and responsive. Another insisted there was something "not right" about them, and was adamant about suggesting others avoid them. No pill with a proper dose would ever allow for that much consumption and still leave the user able to walk and talk freely. This might seem harmless, but keep in mind you are not usually taking a 300+mg dose of whatever binders are in your pill, and after a few that could start to feel bothersome. Also, if you have the luxury of testing before purchasing a larger quantity, you will save yourself a lot of money.
The best way to approach harm reduction and save yourself from a potentially miserable night is to use ecstasydata.org, pillreports.com, and your own test results in conjunction with one another when possible.
*Note: these pills were personally acquired, consumed, tested, and sent to ecstasydata.org, to ensure accuracy of this information.
With all the questionable reports surfacing on pillreports.com lately, and the increasing frequency of pressers attempting to fool test kits and testers, the following is some helpful information I have learned through trial and error. It's very important to note that it takes practice and even some research to be able to accurately determine whether or not a pill is worth consuming. Test kits come with instructions and they do inform you on what colors the reactions should be, but they do not go into enough detail. These days it is not uncommon for a presser to add a negligible amount of MDMA to a dirty or inactive pill, which would still produce a positive MDxx reaction. I am hoping this guide will help you to better understand your test results, and prevent some of you from being fooled in the future.
When testing pure MDMA, the results should look something like this:
Mecke:
Marquis:
Results should be concentrated. You are looking for a very dark puddle. Reaction time is extremely important as well. The instructions come with the appropriate times, but as a rule, they should be instant (the marquis does react a little slower then the mecke).
Here are some things to look out for:
These results can seem confusing, because all of the reactions produce the correct color changes. The watery results however do not suggest good things. Keep in mind, a low active dose would still give you a dense reaction with a solid black center. Here are the lab results for this pill, courtesy of ecstasydata.org:
- TFMPP: 3
- BZP: 1
- MDMA: 0.1
Size: 365 mg, 10.5 x 6.2
According to these ratios, with no binders, the most MDMA this pill could have is less than 10 mg, one tenth the standard single dose. Given that all pills have binders, it's safe to assume these pills had even less than that. Any effects one would feel from this pill would not be from the MDMA. Piperazines do not react with any of the reagents. Watery results like this indicate other substances that do not react to the reagents. Caffeine and piperazines are the most common, but it could also be a pill with a barely active dose of MDxx, such as the following:
Notice these results are somewhat similar. They are slightly better, but still very watery. The Mecke looks ok, but it reacts much easier than the Marquis, so it important to use both. The Marquis is usually the seller, so if you are only purchasing one reagent, this should be the one. Here are the lab results for this pill, again courtesy of ecstasydata.org:
- MDMA: 1
Size: 370 mg, 8.9 x 5.8
Upon first glance, this seems promising, but is important to note that "MDMA: 1" is not an indication of how much MDMA is actually in this pill. It is just a ratio of active ingredients, of which there are only one. This means that it could have 5 mg, or it could have 200 mg, there is no way to tell.
These were personally consumed, and did not do anything more than induce some nausea (perhaps from the binders, it is unclear). In pillreports.com commentary, one user wrote that they had consumed more than 10 in one night, and while they were rolling, they were still coherent and responsive. Another insisted there was something "not right" about them, and was adamant about suggesting others avoid them. No pill with a proper dose would ever allow for that much consumption and still leave the user able to walk and talk freely. This might seem harmless, but keep in mind you are not usually taking a 300+mg dose of whatever binders are in your pill, and after a few that could start to feel bothersome. Also, if you have the luxury of testing before purchasing a larger quantity, you will save yourself a lot of money.
The best way to approach harm reduction and save yourself from a potentially miserable night is to use ecstasydata.org, pillreports.com, and your own test results in conjunction with one another when possible.
*Note: these pills were personally acquired, consumed, tested, and sent to ecstasydata.org, to ensure accuracy of this information.
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