8th Issue Heroin Discussion v. There is hope in a bag of dope

[nowdubnvr6]

Jesus christ this last page should be deleted there is like 1 or 2 posts about actual heroin wtf? Anyways it seems my connect has been going less on the cut he got scared 2 weeks ago cause someone od'd and around here its not hard to figure out who is slanging the diesel. There just isnt that many people slanging it so when 2 or 3 of your customers end up in the ER od'ing then its gonna come back on ya. He's cutting it less lately after he got over bein paranoid it seems and its still a lot stronger than the pills for a lot better price so im still content allthough i have voiced my concerns over the difference in the last couple weeks. That kinda difference in strength is what gets people dead cause they dont know what amount they're exactly doing. Anyways it seems its all good in the South (Little Rock area) finally. Anyways happy nodding to everyone out there not fighting on the internet.

 

[Johnny blue]

OK guys relax. Sometimes I don't even know what the argument is about because there are so many going on. This is one of those times.

Brimz if you'd really like to participate in this thread you may not want to call all of it's inhabitants ignorant as a generalization. If you are referring to how andrikos1977's questions were handled then as Tommy said we simply can't answer them all due to the rules. If you weren't aware EADD has different rules from NASADD and even Aus so please keep that in mind. I'm aware that not everyone has welcomed you with open arms in this thread in the past but, that does not give you license to label us all ignorant.

 

[donnie080208]

a few questions from someone who lives in england

Why is oxycontin so sought after and from what ive read expensive at £80 a pill?
surely £80 of H would be better?
Has a new formula of OC virtually killed off the abuse/recreational market in the states?

Why has OC never took off in Europe ?, ( ive never come across one in the uk in 9 years opiate abuse)

would be great if a USA blue lighter could answer these questions( if their appropriate for this thread)

 

[BHannon24]

a few questions from someone who lives in england

Why is oxycontin so sought after and from what ive read expensive at £80 a pill?
surely £80 of H would be better?
Has a new formula of OC virtually killed off the abuse/recreational market in the states?

Why has OC never took off in Europe ?, ( ive never come across one in the uk in 9 years opiate abuse)

would be great if a USA blue lighter could answer these questions( if their appropriate for this thread)

I would think you can blame our war on drugs for that. They portray heroin so terribly in the media that suburban kids don't want to do it because of the stigma that the media has made for it like you will die if you use it. So they start doin painkillers the top one bein OC because it was easily abused and essentially produced the same effects but because it was medicine prescribed by a doctor it doesn't have that stigma and people don't feel like a junky if they are hooked on medicine.h is def cheaper than the OC mg for mg but people are more scared of it So they would rather pay the ridiculous prices for a painkiller than look like a junky in the media's eyes. Also the price has been raised so high because rich kids that have the money will pay whatever the dealer says and when the supply is limited and someone offers more money for a pill then that's what the pill will be sold for from then on once you pay a buck a mg the dealer won't ever go back to charging less than that. I think that has something to do with the quality. Because with an 80mg OC you know what your buying every time where with dope quality can vary source to source batch to batch so if someone trys charging a ridiculous price for a bag people will just go elsewhere and that dealer won't last long as a dealer so they have to keep their prices lower to compete with other dealers but with pills it usually is comin from someone with a script essentially making it harder to just go to another source most of the time so what they say the price is you either take it or leave it cause someone else will gladly come and pay it if they are sick.

Hope that shed's a little light on it that's just my opinion so don't take it as fact

 

[brimz]

From previous experiences i have found u guys to be pretty ignorant to anyone that doesn't live in the States.
It would be cool if u could prove me wrong.
At the end of the day we all use dope and i don't see why we can't be civil ?
I sometimes browse your thread out of interest n curiosity. I have spent time in Anaheim and OC Cali as a teenager but i was only smoking weed back then.
I'm 35 now n have been using Heroin and other opiates for 16/17 years.

Maybe i ment arrogant it doesn't really matter.
All i'm tryin 2 say is that i've got an intrest in Dope full stop . So therefore i'm intrested in the scene in the US.
Anyhow i enjoy reading some of your guys stuff as its so different to the u.K and most of Europe.
So i take it u have no objections if a chip in with the odd comment / Question every so often.

There is every posibility i could be spending some time in Cali visiting family soon n would just like to get a feel for the Dope scene in the states in general and we all no the soundest Users are on BL
Cheers guys

Excuse my typing or anything ambigous i've just had 3 60mg morphine ampoules and 50 mg of nitrazepam/mogadon

 

[BHannon24]

Maybe i ment arrogant it doesn't really matter.
All i'm tryin 2 say is that i've got an intrest in Dope full stop . So therefore i'm intrested in the scene in the US.
Anyhow i enjoy reading some of your guys stuff as its so different to the u.K and most of Europe.
So i take it u have no objections if a chip in with the odd comment / Question every so often.

There is every posibility i could be spending some time in Cali visiting family soon n would just like to get a feel for the Dope scene in the states in general and we all no the soundest Users are on BL
Cheers guys

Excuse my typing or anything ambigous i've just had 3 60mg morphine ampoules and 50 mg of nitrazepam/mogadon

I figured you meant arrogant cause ignorant didn't make much sense Haha I have no problem with you comin in here and I don't ever give anyone shit that wants to participate in this thread cause its an open thread the more the merryier I say.
I can't speak for the heroin discussion old timers tho they weren't very welcoming when I first started comin around

 

[Tommyboy]

I just saw an old friend again, he is doing pretty bad with dope. Living on the street and shooting up is a horrible way to live. He just came back from the west coast, so his veins are shot from using tar. I saw 3 abscesses on one of his arms, and he doesn't seems to practice much harm reduction. He is reusing needles, drinking out of water then using the same bottle of water to make his shot, and I don't even think he is filtering his shots. I don't know what it will take for him to stop, or if he will do this until he dies.

He even has suboxone and methadone, but just sells it for dope. He was making enough money to rent a room, or to get an apartment with someone, but he chooses to use that money for dope, and to just live on the street. He was making $100 a day working for my friend, so he could have even gotten a place to live, taken subs half the time, and still gotten high once or twice a week.

Anyway, as for me, I have a few rice pellets in with my dope since it is sticky from the humidity. If that doesn't work, then I have a needle-less syringe that I can just use to put drops in my nose.

 

[BHannon24]

I just saw an old friend again, he is doing pretty bad with dope. Living on the street and shooting up is a horrible way to live. He just came back from the west coast, so his veins are shot from using tar. I saw 3 abscesses on one of his arms, and he doesn't seems to practice much harm reduction. He is reusing needles, drinking out of water then using the same bottle of water to make his shot, and I don't even think he is filtering his shots. I don't know what it will take for him to stop, or if he will do this until he dies.

He even has suboxone and methadone, but just sells it for dope. He was making enough money to rent a room, or to get an apartment with someone, but he chooses to use that money for dope, and to just live on the street. He was making $100 a day working for my friend, so he could have even gotten a place to live, taken subs half the time, and still gotten high once or twice a week.

Anyway, as for me, I have a few rice pellets in with my dope since it is sticky from the humidity. If that doesn't work, then I have a needle-less syringe that I can just use to put drops in my nose.

That's terrible man. It's a sad reminder where anyone of us could be if you don't take this shit seriously and try to keep it under control. Especially when you have the means to live a decent life and not have to live on the streets yet you choose to so you can get high more often. Did you tell him you are part of this site and shit?

 

[chinky]

bhan good to hear he actually went through with the signing a confession..i dont think ive ever seen that before


i just got back from coppin a jab and while i was waiting i saw this guy doing something in his car and me not beinga complete fool knew he as eithe fixin up or rollin a blunt..no one is that focused on their lap like the guy was..as my guy pulls up i can see him take his belt off and tie up his arm..im thinking this motherfucker in this nice neighborhood is doing this right here..so i jump in my dudes car and i ask him if he just served the dude in the blue ar and hes like no why?i tell him and he got all pissed of talkin about that motherfucker is ruining my spots..and talkin about how he makes sure he meets people in nice areas so cops wont bother his customers and then theres people doing that shit..so he jumps out and walks straight up to the guys car pounds on the window and yells "dont be doin that shit here white boy..i already called the cops"..i bet the dude blew his fuckin high cause he threw his car in drive and damn near peeled off and me and him sat there and laughed..i doubt he will be doing that again in that spot..

i dont understand people who dont wait to get home after they cop...people crash their cars all the time drivin high not to mention just sittin in your car doin that in public..just wait til you get home people

 

[BHannon24]

I can't believe he did it but it was one of those decisions he made when he was sick and I was his only ride and I gave him seven bags and sixty bucks then drove him down and I wouldn't do it unless he wrote it out so he did it cause he was desperate and I took a video of him doin it and everything so I am good I think.

A lot of people don't wait to get home and I hate it man

 

[gwencooper]

bhan good to hear he actually went through with the signing a confession..i dont think ive ever seen that before


i dont understand people who dont wait to get home after they cop...people crash their cars all the time drivin high not to mention just sittin in your car doin that in public..just wait til you get home people

hi chinky,
that is, quite possibly, my biggest fear. i have no problem copping (and I'm a single woman), however, I always make sure I'm not followed and take major streets home and hide the whatever it is in the bottom of my purse. and then when i get home, I shut the drapes. LOL Better safe than busted.

 

[Unbreakable]

I can't believe he did it but it was one of those decisions he made when he was sick and I was his only ride and I gave him seven bags and sixty bucks then drove him down and I wouldn't do it unless he wrote it out so he did it cause he was desperate and I took a video of him doin it and everything so I am good I think.

A lot of people don't wait to get home and I hate it man

I always wait till i get home, i use an Old Cd Case as my mirror, A mass card as my razor, and a straw for snorting...I enjoy the process of cutting it into lines and bumping them till i feel good... I also always have a bottle Gatorade with me in case i gotta swallow the evidence while i go cop

 

[BHannon24]

Gatorade is the choice drink for sniffin diesel IMO

 

[Johnny blue]

Gatorade is the choice drink for everything IMO. Fierce grape if at all possible

 

[Tommyboy]

That's terrible man. It's a sad reminder where anyone of us could be if you don't take this shit seriously and try to keep it under control. Especially when you have the means to live a decent life and not have to live on the streets yet you choose to so you can get high more often. Did you tell him you are part of this site and shit?

Yea man, I told him about this site (although it doesn't matter much to him since he clearly does not have a computer right now). But I did explain what it is all about. If I have extra cash I will buy him a harm reduction hit.... Rigs, alcohol pads, hand sanitizer, cottons etc... I bought him a bottle of water today so he could use it to make his shot later or whenever. He started drinking from it, and he wasn't even thirsty. He didn't get that the only reason I got it for him was so that he could use some clean bottled water for his shot.

i just got back from coppin a jab and while i was waiting i saw this guy doing something in his car and me not beinga complete fool knew he as eithe fixin up or rollin a blunt..no one is that focused on their lap like the guy was..as my guy pulls up i can see him take his belt off and tie up his arm..im thinking this motherfucker in this nice neighborhood is doing this right here..so i jump in my dudes car and i ask him if he just served the dude in the blue ar and hes like no why?i tell him and he got all pissed of talkin about that motherfucker is ruining my spots..and talkin about how he makes sure he meets people in nice areas so cops wont bother his customers and then theres people doing that shit..so he jumps out and walks straight up to the guys car pounds on the window and yells "dont be doin that shit here white boy..i already called the cops"..i bet the dude blew his fuckin high cause he threw his car in drive and damn near peeled off and me and him sat there and laughed..i doubt he will be doing that again in that spot..

i dont understand people who dont wait to get home after they cop...people crash their cars all the time drivin high not to mention just sittin in your car doin that in public..just wait til you get home people

Didn't the same thing happen a few months back, and it actually was one of your guys customers? I really hate that people drive after shooting up. At least if someone sniffs some right quick they have some time before it really hits them. That's obviously not the case with people that shoot up, and it takes a lot longer to do that than it take to pour out a bag, roll up a bill, and.......

 

[Johnny blue]

I hear ya Tommy. It's always tough to drop some HR knowledge irl. I always get the feeling that people don't believe me or that they can't be bothered to do anything that they don't already do.

 

[Bricks & Stacks]

Shit if I'm sick I wait til I get outta the hood to start sniffin but I'll already have the cd case card and piece of paper rolled up. A lot of times I'm ridin with somebody else, but drivin alone never stopped me either. If I'm sick with bags in hand ain't no fuckin way I'm waitin til I get home.

Today I was meetin my dude and I drove past these 3 brothas in a impala then parked and they went around and came back up and was creepin past where I just parked and they was in a impala so I was like aw shit it must be task force. Dude ridin shotty rolls down the window and he's like yo whats good? I'm all sketched out cuz I don't got a drivers license and was in somebody elses whip I'm like yeah whats up yo? he's like I GOT THEM FIRE JOINTS! I just started laughin hes like take my number. Ends up he had the exact same bags I was coppin which are the best ones goin around right now and for a dollar less a bag which don't sound like much but when you spend a hundred or two everyday it definitely fuckin adds up. Then my dude comes walkin up as the impala drove off and dude stopped to talked to him so I'm guessin they grab off same dude. I was thinkin like that's some dumb shit to do just roll up on somebody but bein the only white boy for miles I'm sure he knew what time it was.

I love summer I've got like 4 new connects in the last month

 

[andrikos1977]

Damn , got heated in here while I have been away! Anyway that dude from Greece needs to know that the #3heroin base he was using in Greece, is 9 times out of 10, a lot lower purity than #4 SA powder dope! He gets some #4 and shoots the same as he is used to doing of #3base heroin , he will likely OD!! Thats just my opinion, but from what I hear about dope in Europe, the #3 is not as pure as the crappy #4 powder here in the US..Places like Italy, and The Netherlands get 80% or better #3 base dope, but most of the rest of Europe gets dope 1/2 that pure if that..Dude needs to be careful switching from #3 base to #4 powder dope!!

well as a Greek with more than 15 years of heroin experience i confirm everything u said.And nowadays it is even worse.Im capable of finding pretty good decent stuff myself but only because after all these years i have a steady afghan guy who brings kg quantities from the evrus river border.In athens the nigerians now sell for heroin this solid rock which turns like pink in the spoon and has no ruch or nod whatsoever.still even though u wont get a high(NO HIGH AT ALL) the syndrome this shit causes is worse than heroin.Ater almost 5 years of that thing in the streets,now hundreds and hundreds of youngsters are addicted to something that never gave them pleasure.also when the nigerians took over the street trade in downtown athens they dropped immediately the prices amost 110 percent!!!

thabk you fro your concern.I was always cautious about what u said since i went to delhi,india and even though i was on 2 gramms a day greek heroin shootings,when i sniffed a line i woke up in a filthy building like a hospital.from my own searching i already know that usa heroin is much stronger that here in greece.thanks man.


P.S. just one more general question.in the chicago,does anyone know if its possible to buy subutex on the street?over here almost anyone who has "take home" subutex or methadone sells it on the street to buy junk.eventhe ones who are forced to put them pills in their mouth infront of the nurse,devised various methods and they manage to keep the pill from melting completely inside their mouth and they then spit it out on their hand and they sell all these disgusting crumbs to desperate junkies aroun athens downtown shithole..thanks.

 

[BHannon24]

Ya I always sniff my bags in the car cause I don't pour em out most the time I just sniff it right out of the bag so all I need is my straw pop that bitch open flick it all down to one corner rip off half the bag stick the straw in and boom.

WHy do you guys take all the extra time to pour it out And shit why not do it right out of the bag? I hate when the people that are riding with me bang it in the car especially the one kid who I got popped wit he wouldn't even wait to get back on the highway he would set his coke shot up immediately then after it started wearing off he would set up his dope shot for the come down and it takes so much longer for him to do all that shit that most of the time we would have drove the 15-20 min drive back to his house and he would still have all his shit out on his lap when we got there but I have a couple bags up my nose and every thing put away after like five mins of gettin the shit.

It is def hard to drop HR knowledge IRL man cause like you said its like your bothering them and you don't know what your talkin about cause they been doin it their way for so long and because you don't bang you don't know what your talkin about obviously and their way is right.
MY favorite is with suboxone trying to explain that less is more is like trying to explain rocket science to a monkey they just look at you like your the dumbest person in the whole world and you clearly don't know shit if you think a quarter of a sub is better than a whole one Haha

 

[BluffBoy]

I'd say some people don't snort out the bag for the simple fact they don't like rocks of dope up their nose.

Does dope up north only have the consistency of powder or do u guys get chunky stuff. Some of the fire here has a kind of gravel consistency... Hard to explain.