8th Issue Heroin Discussion v. There is hope in a bag of dope

What is your ROA for your dope?

  • Sniffing

    Votes: 17 28.8%

  • I.V.

    Votes: 39 66.1%

  • Smoking

    Votes: 1 1.7%

  • Plugging

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • More than 1 way

    Votes: 2 3.4%
  • Total voters
    59
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Hey Chinky that's some good willpower you have. My hats off to ya for keeping your shit in check.

When I used to do dope I did it all day every day. Of course there were times I couldn't get any. But man I realize that I just didn't give a fuck. I'll still pop pills but I try to keep that shit in check.

Never knows best I hope chipping works for ya.
 
Yo Ive got a question for you guys.. every time i snort a cap, this shit happens:

1. Nose is dry and clear, can breath through completely
2. Snort a cap
3. Nose fills up with mucous and starts to run

Now i still feel the dope because it takes a few minutes for this to happen, but it makes trying to snort a few caps at a time impossible. Any tips other than just lay off the nose for a while (Been on a little bit of a binge for a few weeks now) 2-7 caps a day.
 
OpiateGuy said:
Yo Ive got a question for you guys.. every time i snort a cap, this shit happens:

1. Nose is dry and clear, can breath through completely
2. Snort a cap
3. Nose fills up with mucous and starts to run

Now i still feel the dope because it takes a few minutes for this to happen, but it makes trying to snort a few caps at a time impossible. Any tips other than just lay off the nose for a while (Been on a little bit of a binge for a few weeks now) 2-7 caps a day.
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The dope here in Nj does not do that but the coke does, i would recommend
snorting on a Vicks Stick it always seems to help those symptoms
 
I know what you mean OG..its like your nose closes it self up and tells you, no more is coming in.

There's really no way to get around it..I used to be able to use and never worry about it but when I started usin more then half a jaba day, I started to get nose blockage problems..there's really nothing to do to cure it but cut back..my problem is I always use my right nose so it happens if I binge..so yea man just give your nose a break, ths the only way it really works.
 
My rules is for every 1 day you use you take 2 days off from using, the other part of the rules is that you don't use more than 2 days in a row. The rules work best before you use and get a tolerance.

My problem right now is finding IV more efficient than plugging. I'm fat and have difficult veins so I'm always afraid of missing my shot. Plugging was nice enough but too damn expensive for how high I was getting compared to IV. When I miss a shot I hate the pain & swelling but I'm also concerned with abcesses, health issues, and bruising.
 
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uniformsquare said:
My rules is for every 1 day you use you take 2 days off from using, the other part of the rules is that you don't use more than 2 days in a row. The rules work best before you use and get a tolerance.

My problem right now is finding IV more efficient than plugging. I'm fat and have difficult veins so I'm always afraid of missing my shot. Plugging was nice enough but too damn expensive for how high I was getting compared to IV. When I miss a shot I hate the pain & swelling but I'm also concerned with abcesses, health issues, and bruising.
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I know what you mean, he thought of IV-ing tar makes me feel especially uneasy from a health standpoint, though I may go back to the needle sooner or later. Most of the time the H is bagged with a lil' coke for speedballing, and that is something I have yet to try, and I'd quite like to at some point.
 
You guys were talking about car accidents due to nodding out or dope-related crashes...that's serious shit. I used to always, always worry about my husband driving. One time I was with him and he was literally falling asleep at the wheel til I made him pull over. It was awful. I always worried about it. And the time came and we did get in a horrible car accident, he wasn't even high. Didn't even do ANY dope that day but we WERE on our way to cop. So, although the crash wasn't dope-related in the sense that I always worried about, nodding off at the wheel, in my mind it was still a dope-related crash simply because if we hadn't been going to cop our path wouldn't have crossed with a semi tractor-trailer. Talk about feeling guilt. My husband died that day last summer, and obviously I survived the crash. So I just wanted to say...please please be careful about mixing dope and driving. The time that he was nodding at the wheel, he didn't even realize it. He thought he was fine! I guess the fact that we crashed when we were both stone cold sober is just crazy, cuz it could have easily been different. I never get high and drive especially now. In fact I take public transportation to cop, that way I don't even have to think about mixing dope and driving. I wanted to share my story just so maybe someone will think twice about getting high and jumping in the car...you could kill yourself or maybe someone else...and in my case I can't help but think "if we had quit like we talked about, he would still be alive..." That and some major survivor guilt issues, but here I am still gettin high.

Wow Chinky that is some self-discipline to wait until 6pm to get high...I could never do that, half of the time my waiting shot is the only thing that gets me up and out of bed...I don't even need an alarm clock cuz my internal dope clock wakes up me up every morning!
 
Unbreakable said:
The dope here in Nj does not do that but the coke does, i would recommend
snorting on a Vicks Stick it always seems to help those symptoms
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Really? You've never had dope do that to you before? Because the dope that we get here is all from NY/NJ, and I can tell you that I've had dope make my nose run before.

I've also had dope that, for whatever reason, will drip down into the back of my throat and numb my tongue. I'm sure it depends upon the cut and whatever else...
 
chinky said:
im weird when it comes to this shit, borderline ocd about it but thats just how i keep myself in check and keep in mind i only snort my dope i never have shot it and ive ben doin dope for like 2years now with 6-7 years of prescription drug use

first off i never use before 6pm..no matter how sik and shitty i feel, i always wait to use..one reason i do this is becaus i never redose..i use and get high once a night and that it..theres no snorting dope at 10am and then gettin high again at 9pm..

i try to not use on back to back days and never 3 days in a row..i noticed when i used back to back and things like that my tolerance shot up real quick, i always read that to keep your tolerance down take at least 2 days off after every 1 day of getting high..i dont follow that but i try to use every other day..i always notice that i get more pleasure using when im sick as opposed togettin high when im not sick...i also dont use every other day normally once a week i go 2days in a row with out using and normally that second day i do use its just a line or 2 to take way the chills..also im on probation so once a month i go 5-7days without using even if i know im not getting tested..i say this bc the one time i got tested he gave me a months notice.. but you never know he might suprise me so i stay cautious and when i do this i take 4mg subs when i feel sick and thats it, when i use subs i really only need to dose once, every now and then ill dose a second time but since my Wds arent that bad i can get away using the subs just once..but thats when the mental part of dope comes bc afte r2-3 day i wont feel sick but ill have that craving, so thats why i might redose but then the day i go see my PO the craving goes away cause i know im gonna go cop afterward and get high that night

now i didnt start using like thi until i lost my job and went back to sellin weed, i ued to be a chipper..when i had a job and sold bud, i used to go buy some norks or OCs and use them on the weekend, once a week as a form of partying bc im not a heavy drinker..im really just a pothead and since i sold it and always had alot on me and i wanted something that was differnt..i was good at using only n the weekends until i lost my job and had lots of extra time on my hands..the extra time led me to using more and that inturn led me to this site to ask my questions..thats when i started talkin to people who kinda doubted that i would be able to chip for very long and that i shoud just start using the needle now bc im gonna end up with it and im gonna feel like ive been wasting my money and they have heard it a million time but everyone caves..the negativity i got kinda made me stick to my guns cause i looked at it like a challenge and like how is heroin any differnt then OCs and ive been chippin with them for 5-6years..so thats how i kinda made my own guideline to keep myself in check..

now im able to pull this off bc thankfully my WDs arent that bad, compared to alot of other people and i think its because i only snort it..im able to use every other day bc unlike most peope my Wds dont kick in until 2mornings after i last used..when i get wds its normally waking up a little sweaty but only on my back and chest..from that i get this chill that kinda last and i get a really weak stomach and have some nice wds shits..i know it might sound bad but its not... if i smoke a little weed it helps it greatly and makes its manageable..i also when sick dont like to sit around the house and mope..cause i feel that it makes it worse cause all im doing is sitting there in my bed thinking about it..since i think wds are 75% mental getting out the house and doing some errands and takinga shower and smoking a little bud or spice helps take you mind away from it..and thats really about it

to sum it up set yourself a little guideline and try and stick by it, i dont always stick by mine, like if its sunday and i want to sit around and watch football all day imight bust out a line or 2 and do it at noon just becaue i want to enjoy the day and if i do that i dont plan on using that night..just try and go by certain things cause when you dont care is when it gets bad and dope starts to take over and you start using day and night and multiple days in a row, and why is that? bc you dont care...if your gonna use dope fine so be it, just understand people die from it everyday and bc theres so much garbage dope, all it takes is that one goodbatch and you can be dead..and even if you got that narcan in your pocket ready to go, what good is it if no ne else knows you got it? so just be smart and care about what your doing


i know its long but you asked..so i gave you the story and the logic behind, so you understand why i do what i do and not think im just some OCD freak..im sure theres a few that will talk shit bc they heard this shit a million times and thats fine..but for me it works and its so easy theres no reason why it cant work for everyone..you just got to be mentally strong, if your weak you wont be able to tell your brain no, thats why a guide helps you threw it..i read about people using every day and i cant imagine it, that would be like being a zombie, almost like your half dead
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wow chinky you have more willpower than me and every junky i know. for real. you only dose/get high once a day, you dont use everyday. honestly thats remarkable. props for that brotha.

and you mention using everday turns peoples into zombies. true. well the ones on the street look like zombies for sure.

chinky you couldnt imagine using everyday? that reminds me of this cat i used to run with who was on black and g (bth and methamphetamine, if you dont know), and dude was shootin the dope, with some dull ass needles he would re use forever. had some nasty tracks on the crooks of his arm. well my point is dude would go non stop! i was crashing at his pad.. he would usually get some g at night, give himself a big ol shot and fuckin tweak out hard, dude would talk nonstop all night. id be like "dude shut the fuck up" after being kept up for way too long, cause he wouldnt stop talking. so id usually not get decent rest crashing there. Come daytime we would dose up on the black, dose some g and we would hit the streets and hustle, and we'd make hella cash. so much we'd be like "we got enough, lets pick up." after like 4 hours. and we'd score halfs (half g's) off the streets, where ever we where. didnt matter if it was north side or south side, the shit seems like its in every hood. so...... eventually i got tired of never sleeping at night and runnin around on the streets with tweakers..fuckin having to hustle hard and bust my ass everyday, fuck that.
 
Sounds like Denver dope scene where thet were when I was there a few times ago, the dealers were giving out free samples of black tar to crystal meth users to inject or smoke when they were out of meth or coming down, turns out 1/2 of those meth users ended up turning into straight heroin users after a while and said fuck the meth, and the other 1/2 were still doing meth and either using the tar here and there or selling it for more meth.Pretty good way for dealers to market the dope into a group of drug users they already sold meth to,so why not give them free samples of heroin until they get hooked if they do the dope and do not sell it for more meth!?? Shitty thing IMO, but I think meth dealers are shitty people anyway mostly,and those free samples of tar end up making the dealers a lot of money after a while when people are strung out and buying the heroin!!
 
welderman- hustlin aint easy but someones gota do it

nowdub-he was a complete mook but we made mad paper at least.

davis- i have never seen free samples of black, but most dealers with black are on g, so if you ask em for some g theyll give it up for free. but not really free cause you have to get black in the first place. and one time we got a bottle of vodka for free, with a g purchase.
 
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blue valentine said:
You guys were talking about car accidents due to nodding out or dope-related crashes...that's serious shit. I used to always, always worry about my husband driving. One time I was with him and he was literally falling asleep at the wheel til I made him pull over. It was awful. I always worried about it. And the time came and we did get in a horrible car accident, he wasn't even high. Didn't even do ANY dope that day but we WERE on our way to cop. So, although the crash wasn't dope-related in the sense that I always worried about, nodding off at the wheel, in my mind it was still a dope-related crash simply because if we hadn't been going to cop our path wouldn't have crossed with a semi tractor-trailer. Talk about feeling guilt. My husband died that day last summer, and obviously I survived the crash. So I just wanted to say...please please be careful about mixing dope and driving. The time that he was nodding at the wheel, he didn't even realize it. He thought he was fine! I guess the fact that we crashed when we were both stone cold sober is just crazy, cuz it could have easily been different. I never get high and drive especially now. In fact I take public transportation to cop, that way I don't even have to think about mixing dope and driving. I wanted to share my story just so maybe someone will think twice about getting high and jumping in the car...you could kill yourself or maybe someone else...and in my case I can't help but think "if we had quit like we talked about, he would still be alive..." That and some major survivor guilt issues, but here I am still gettin high.

Wow Chinky that is some self-discipline to wait until 6pm to get high...I could never do that, half of the time my waiting shot is the only thing that gets me up and out of bed...I don't even need an alarm clock cuz my internal dope clock wakes up me up every morning!
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i just wanted to throw out another caution story. my only relapse since i got clean off dope in april was with oxy, it had been along time since i used oxy and i didnt know how much i would need after bein on dope for soo long, so i used 240mg 3 80s one night, plus some free small lines (who knows MAYBE 20mg each) a drug buddy had given me well i pretty much got to enjoy the high for maybe 30mins to an hour before i just nodded out for a couple hours or so, when i came to i realised i had been at my buddies for awhile and it was late so i was gonna make the 20-25mile drive home. everyone in the house told me it wasnt a good idea for me to go home and kept asking if i was good to do drive, but being the person i am i said i got it i got it, luckily it was about 2am-3am in the morning cuz just about no body was on the roads sans a few cars on the highway, but the whole drive home on the highway i was nodding out, i was fighting to stay awake but couldnt, but i kept driving home cuz i knew i would have to be home in the morning or my girl would know i wasnt at my grandmas like i said. in retrospect i was being completely stupid. luckily i made it down the highway and didnt wreck while going 70 mph cuz if ida done what i did whilst on the highway i doubt i would still be here, not long after exiting the highway and within about2-3 miles from my house i nodded out for a long enough time to loose controll of the car, i woke up to feeling the car shake as i ran up onto the curb i was probably goin ~20-30mph at this point, alls im saying is that i was blessed that night, i shouldnt have been driving, and im not talking about the little ow i closed my eyes nods i was full on noddin out that drive, i should of died that night, but i didnt for whatever reason, and as Blue valentine said and as BHannon (may or maynot be) evidence of, dopeing and driving isnt wise, be careful yall

The Rock Monster said:
wow chinky you have more willpower than me and every junky i know. for real. you only dose/get high once a day, you dont use everyday. honestly thats remarkable. props for that brotha.

and you mention using everday turns peoples into zombies. true. well the ones on the street look like zombies for sure.

chinky you couldnt imagine using everyday? that reminds me of this cat i used to run with who was on black and g (bth and methamphetamine, if you dont know), and dude was shootin the dope, with some dull ass needles he would re use forever. had some nasty tracks on the crooks of his arm. well my point is dude would go non stop! i was crashing at his pad.. he would usually get some g at night, give himself a big ol shot and fuckin tweak out hard, dude would talk nonstop all night. id be like "dude shut the fuck up" after being kept up for way too long, cause he wouldnt stop talking. so id usually not get decent rest crashing there. Come daytime we would dose up on the black, dose some g and we would hit the streets and hustle, and we'd make hella cash. so much we'd be like "we got enough, lets pick up." after like 4 hours. and we'd score halfs (half g's) off the streets, where ever we where. didnt matter if it was north side or south side, the shit seems like its in every hood. so...... eventually i got tired of never sleeping at night and runnin around on the streets with tweakers..fuckin having to hustle hard and bust my ass everyday, fuck that.
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good to see you around RM, you had some people worried

hows stayin clean been coming if you dont mind me asking?
 
HighonLife said:
good to see you around RM, you had some people worried

hows stayin clean been coming if you dont mind me asking?
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thats funny seems like no one gives a fuck about me, tbh.

stayin clean has been a bitch. for the past 4 months or so im using daily. now im on day 5 no black, essentially kicked cold turkey, i did take 4 mgs subutex but that didnt put a fucking dent in the wds. ive had many oppurtunities to go get $$$ but i havent gone cause i know im just gona score a bunch of dope and get all sprung out agian. but for the last 4 years i havent been able to stay off dope for more than 2 months at a time. aint that a bitch.
 
The Rock Monster said:
thats funny seems like no one gives a fuck about me, tbh.

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what do you mean man?

why do you say that?

i know its just the internet and pales in comparison to real life

but there are plenty of people who care about you here, and i dont know your life but im confident sayin there are lots of people IRL who care about you as well

your doing the right thing trying to get clean, it isnt easy, you'll struggle with it forever, but if your constantly trying then thats all you can do, things will fall into place eventually, trust that
 
HighonLife said:
what do you mean man?

why do you say that?

i know its just the internet and pales in comparison to real life

but there are plenty of people who care about you here, and i dont know your life but im confident sayin there are lots of people IRL who care about you as well
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its true man, well my mother shows me she cares about me. i havent seen my dad for 3 years, he doesnt call me on my birthday, christmas, nothing at all.. no contact. it saddens me that he doesnt give a fuck. im sure my friends care about me, they help me out when in need.. it just seems no one lets me know they really care
 
^^^ i dont know you, maybe im a soft hearted fool.

but there are plenty of people on BL i genuinely care about

i didnt even know BHannon and kinda didnt really like him, but i cried when i saw the thread

no disrespect to him though RIP

but man i appreciate you and your posts alot, I CARE ABOUT YOU.

i may not mean anything to you, but everyone here on BL that has impacted me in someway shape or form i care about, and you are one of those peoples

dont get too down on yourself man. come back to posting in the social again man, i know some around here dont like us, but we genuinely care about eachother, and yea it may just be the internet but its helped me out on more then one occasion knowing that some people who've never met me genuinely care about my well being.

there are those out there who love you, and there are definately those out there and here who care about you

keep your head up man
 
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