Trip Overview:
Tl;Dr - I had an absolutely amazing trip 2 weeks ago on 2c-b. One of the best trips I can remember. But I stupidly extended my 2C-B trip out to 12 hours and a now experiencing random episodes of tripping without taking any drugs.
*Warning* Despite my long period of abstinence from mind altering substances, I still consider myself a fairly experienced and mature tripper. I have never had a bad trip on any substance, including 30mg 2c-e...in fact I quite enjoyed 2c-e. Please do not attempt these doses unless you have a shit ton of experience tripping and synergizing extremely potent psychoactive chemicals, and never by yourself. Always use a proper scale, and stay safe!
*Warning*
Imitating this trip carries a high risk of developing HPPD. Hallucinogenic Persistent Perception Disorder. Very little is known about it except that psychedelics can cause it and it fucking sucks. I tripped for three more days after the party. I still have slight visuals, as does Elsa, and it is now T+ 96h. Yes, this was the most amazing trip I've ever had. I am changing my answer - I would not do this again. If you are going to redose 2cb, do not do it more than once and be sure to use a lesser amount, unless the goal is to intensify the trip.
With our edm festival canceled due to flooding, my crew and I decided to do a home roll. These are events that typically involve 4-10 close friends and family that all rave together rolling on ecstacy, dancing, and vibing all night. The plan for tonight was that the 6 of us who who were originally going to the festival would meet up at one of our apartments (what we call our rave cave) and rave our faces off - since I no longer use MDMA due to not liking the comedown, I was going to drop 26mg 2c-b Hbr at T - 0:00 and another 18mg at T + 2:00 when everyone else was taking Snapchats, Teslas, and Supremes (200+mg MDMA). It didn't quite happen according to plan...
Previous Experiences, Set, Setting:
I'm a 30 year old male, in fairly healthy physical condition. I played soccer in college, and continued working out up until about 10 months ago when my work schedule expanded. I eat pretty clean - mostly chicken and steak, rice, some pasta, veggies, salad...I take a great daily multivitamin. I am prescribed 60mg/day Vyvanse for ADD and I take it 100% as directed, and have since I first got the Rx nearly a year ago. I am also prescribed trazadone and flexeril on a prn basis - hardly ever use the trazadone, have taken 10mg flexeril every 1-2 days for the last month or so
I also am on testosterone replacement therapy, but not sure if that's entirely relevant.
Previously, I have taken the following psychedelics (note: nearly all drugs listed below were consumed >5 years ago):
Mushrooms - ~15 trips - 2g-7g
2C-E - 5 trips - 15-30mg
2C-I - 1 trip - 20mg
DXM - 35-40 trips - 250-600mg
2C-B - 23mg - first time 2 weeks ago
MDMA - ~15-20 rolls - 100-250MG
Mephedrone - 10-12, 125-175mg
Diphenhydramine - uncounted - 25-325mg
I have taken the following recreational stimulants:
Adderall IR and XR - many times, 30-120mg.
Vyvanse - every day for a year - have taken as much as 180 mg
Methylphenidate - 250-500 times - 10-40mg
Cocaine - ~10 times - .5-3.5g
MDPV - 250-500 times - 50-100mg(vaped) -
Pure Crystal Methamphetamine - 250-500 times, 50-75mg vaped
2-FMA - 10-12 times - 20-50mg
4-FA - 3 times - 110+mg
You get the idea...
Set and Setting:
I am just naturally a very optimistic, positive person, but I haven't always been. I have grown a lot over the past 5 years (completed rehab, relapsed, got married, got divorced, and now I'm doing better than ever.) I have, very thankfully due to my preparation, never had a bad trip on any psychedelic, even 30mg 2C-E followed by 15mg insufflated 2.5h in. Also, and this could have been a factor in the trip, I first tried 2C-B two weeks ago at 23mg. Enjoyable experience, over in 3-4 hours. However, I was in a supremely good mood tonight, even though our festival got canceled. Everyone but me would be dropping tabs of E, although I had plenty of 2c-b so they had the option if they wanted it. We were planned to rave at my sister's and her husbands apartment - very comfortable setup with glowsticks, good bass, laser show, blacklights, and blackout curtains. We listen to a lot of deep house, trance, big room bass, some trap...feel good, get your ass up and dance music. Essentially, this was the setup for The Perfect Trip.
My goal:
My goal for this trip was to see how long I could extend the effects of 2C-B by carefully timed redosing, and potentiate them with the addition of Noopept. The methamphetamine would be used simply to provide a baseline of energy, Phenibut eliminates anxiety, and cannabis is necessary for many reasons, especially nausea on the comeup.
Result:
Huge fucking success.
Trip Report:
Got a good night's sleep last night, ate two good meals today, stayed hydrated. Only substances used in the last 24 hours were crystal meth and cannabis.
T - 01:30 - 30mg crystal meth (oral), 20mg Noopept
T - 00:30 - 30mg crystal meth (oral)
Feeling fairly positive and energetic.
T - 00:00 - 26mg 2C-B Hbr
T + 00:30 - Began to get tingling sensations on my arms, and little jolts of something pleasurable moving through my chest occasionally when I drew breath. I'd read that 2C-B is incredibly dose specific, so I was curious about what the difference between 23 (what I took 2 weeks ago) and 26mg would be. No one else had really started to roll yet.
T + 00:45 - Visuals became very apparent. Light seemed to be transfixed in the air, as if it was made of something transparent but solid. The laser show on the walls looked incredible, with tracers very apparent
T + 01:00 - The body high seems to travel by electrical current through the synapses of all the nerves in my body, spreading pleasure all over until it builds and peaks, very nearly resulting in an orgasm. I lie on the bed, feeling the euphoria wash over me as the energy from the meth is giving me the desire to get up and move, so I spend the next hour with my spirit hood and rave mask on, dancing away with my friend Elsa (name changed).
T + 02:00 - I'm fucking floored. The visuals aren't quite as intense as two weeks ago, and the body high is just barely not quite as orgasmic, but the empathy and love I was feeling at this point was intense. My head space was very clear, but intoxicated on happiness and contentment. I could speak clearly and had no trouble with coordination, yet I still very much felt fucked up. Combining the 2C-B with the smooth, clean stimulant boost from the meth was a brilliant idea. I was so into the music, and didn't want to stop moving, but if I decided to I could be completely still. Objects are morphing and doing what I call flowing, although I guess rippling might be somewhat accurate also. Everything that touched my skin felt unbelievably hedonistic. Elsa gave me a professional hand massage - Holy shit. I know you're thinking well, that's kinda weird. But if you haven't, please have someone give you a hand massage the next time you are rolling or tripping on 2c-b, and then you will understand.
T + 02:45 - Everyone is peaking on their tabs and I'm tripping balls, and yet I feel completely in control with no discomfort at all. I feel a sense of love and connectedness that I dont remember from my first 2c-b trip. It wasn't as overwhelming as the feels from mdma, but it was very noticeable. So, then I drop the second dose for the night, 18mg, along with another 30mg crystal. Everyone else drops another tab. I planned the dose timing in such a way that I would have peaked off the initial dose and plateaud, so dropping a 2nd time wouldn't intensify the effects, merely extend them, and I could continue raving along with everyone rolling. This worked beautifully, way beyond any and all expectation.
T + 03:45 - I could tell when the 2nd dose hit. The visuals got more intense (they had leveled off slightly) and began moving faster. I was peaking really hard - dancing was incredible. The music was just...it moved through the tapestry of everything and everyone in the room. When Josh put on a LED glove show, my world exploded in light, and color, and patterns. And watching the lasers and lights through your phone's camera is crazy fucking trippy. Then we all went around in a circle and said what loved about each person in the group. It was incredibly spiritual and intense - we are all very close and the words that were spoken were beautiful.
T + 04:45 - We all drop again, and this time Elsa drops 15mg 2C-B with me. Within a half hour, she and I are dancing together, doing spins and twirls and just killing it - and I don't even really know how to dance, I just kinda get out there and move around to the music and hope it works out. Sometimes it does, but this was crazy! We were on the same level all night - and the night was far from over. We take the dog out for a walk, and as we look at the branches of a tree on the verge of losing its leaves for winter, we realize that the branches of the trees closely resemble to capillaries of our lungs, and that the trees are the lungs of the world. If was a pretty crazy realization and while I really didn't expect to get any insight like that whole on 2c-b, I certainly got some.
T + 06:45 - Elsa and I feel fucking amazing. The timing and size of the redoses has allowed the 2C-B's effects to continue in all of their unabated glory for 6 or 7 hours. It's now 5:15am, and we all decide go redose one last time. Elsa takes another 15mg of 2c-b, as do I. I also took another 30mg meth. Those who chose mdma alone said they felt great and were having a good time, but they looked like hell. Sweating, not moving around too too much, sunken eyes, complaints about nausea, dry mouth...elsa had some stomach issues, but I had 0, and by this point I'd consumed 74mg 2C-B Hbr and 120mg crystal meth over the course of 7 hours. We continued dancing and tripping as the sun threatened to peek over the horizon, illuminating the mystery of the dark with the majesty of the sun.
T + 08:45 - Still tripping balls. Elsa is starting to pass out, and everyone else is coming down as well. Except for me. I can definitely discern a decrease in the intensity of effects, but they are still present. I have now been full on tripping on 2C-B for nearly 9 hours. I thought I'd be able to redose once if I was lucky, and that was it. Holy shit, that is not the case!
T + 11:00 - Definitely coming down, but still getting visuals. Wtf! I feel fine and still have energy, but everyone else is tired and ready to turn down. This trip has been easily controllable the entire time. I was able to switch between dancing my heart out and laying down without moving effortlessly. There was one point I felt on the verge of experiencing something rather dramatic visually, but it dissipated. The trip was pretty much over, and Manchester United was on TV playing Man City, so we said goodbye to the music and I watched the game while everyone else crashed.
T + 15:30 - Still awake, took one more 30mg meth to stay awake. Wishing maybe I would have gotten a fee hours sleep instead, but I need to be able to go to sleep early tonight so I can have a full nights sleep before work tomorrow. I feel good, somewhat spacey. Like the first few seconds immediately following an orgasm, but not as incapacitating. I'm about to smoke some meth as that tends to provide me with a cleaner, calmer high than any other ROA. I'm also going to take 1000mg of phenibut to ease any lingering after effects.
Conclusion: 2C-B truly is magical, just as Shulgin describes. It makes the world seem like a much more colorful place. Apparently at some point in the trip we were outside, with light playing off the clouds and I described what I saw as the realization that the entire universe is made out of light, and therefore everything that exists is actually made out of rainbows, and 2C-B allows you to see glimpses of what it looks and feels like. As long as there are no troubling, lingering after effects I will absolutely take this trip again; this combination would be perfect for a festival, or if you only redose once it would be good for just one night shows as well. And, as last night proves (I'm at T + 17:00 and still not completely back to baseline - most likely due to either the amount of 2c-b consumed or the noopepts potentiation effect), this I great for home rolls as well. If you want to chill more than dance and move, either cut the meth dose in half (take doses 1 and 3 instead of all 4) or eliminate it altogether. However, I do feel that the stimulation from the meth is at least partly what allowed me to exert such extensive control over the trip, so that is something to consider as well. Thank you for reading, I hope this has been helpful.
***Important Update Please Read****
T + 48 - I have developed a disorder called HPPD. It is Hallucinogenic persistent perceptions Disorder. I'm getting slight wiggly worms but haven't been all wiggly. I saw words breathe and had an unexpected intense body roll hit me whole driving home, I'd that doesn't help out let me know. I have had internal and auditory hallucinations as well.
T + 72 Vistas much less prone to bad vibes compared to everything else. Less intense visuals, more intense body load. Not pleasurable, bc I was trying not to crash into the other thousands of cars.
T + 96h Not back to baseline, but nothing significantly altered. No body load today and only slight visuals.
Again, despite this being the best trip of my life and having very few negative side effects, this is not an experience I wish to repeat nor is it something anyone should try. It is dangerous, and can result in a permanent hallucinatory state. I really regret not just enjoying 2cb for its own experience, and trying to force it to be what I wanted it to be. It worked with flying colors. Unfortunately those colors didn't go away when the trip ended.
Tl;Dr - I had an absolutely amazing trip 2 weeks ago on 2c-b. One of the best trips I can remember. But I stupidly extended my 2C-B trip out to 12 hours and a now experiencing random episodes of tripping without taking any drugs.
*Warning* Despite my long period of abstinence from mind altering substances, I still consider myself a fairly experienced and mature tripper. I have never had a bad trip on any substance, including 30mg 2c-e...in fact I quite enjoyed 2c-e. Please do not attempt these doses unless you have a shit ton of experience tripping and synergizing extremely potent psychoactive chemicals, and never by yourself. Always use a proper scale, and stay safe!
*Warning*
Imitating this trip carries a high risk of developing HPPD. Hallucinogenic Persistent Perception Disorder. Very little is known about it except that psychedelics can cause it and it fucking sucks. I tripped for three more days after the party. I still have slight visuals, as does Elsa, and it is now T+ 96h. Yes, this was the most amazing trip I've ever had. I am changing my answer - I would not do this again. If you are going to redose 2cb, do not do it more than once and be sure to use a lesser amount, unless the goal is to intensify the trip.
With our edm festival canceled due to flooding, my crew and I decided to do a home roll. These are events that typically involve 4-10 close friends and family that all rave together rolling on ecstacy, dancing, and vibing all night. The plan for tonight was that the 6 of us who who were originally going to the festival would meet up at one of our apartments (what we call our rave cave) and rave our faces off - since I no longer use MDMA due to not liking the comedown, I was going to drop 26mg 2c-b Hbr at T - 0:00 and another 18mg at T + 2:00 when everyone else was taking Snapchats, Teslas, and Supremes (200+mg MDMA). It didn't quite happen according to plan...
Previous Experiences, Set, Setting:
I'm a 30 year old male, in fairly healthy physical condition. I played soccer in college, and continued working out up until about 10 months ago when my work schedule expanded. I eat pretty clean - mostly chicken and steak, rice, some pasta, veggies, salad...I take a great daily multivitamin. I am prescribed 60mg/day Vyvanse for ADD and I take it 100% as directed, and have since I first got the Rx nearly a year ago. I am also prescribed trazadone and flexeril on a prn basis - hardly ever use the trazadone, have taken 10mg flexeril every 1-2 days for the last month or so
I also am on testosterone replacement therapy, but not sure if that's entirely relevant.
Previously, I have taken the following psychedelics (note: nearly all drugs listed below were consumed >5 years ago):
Mushrooms - ~15 trips - 2g-7g
2C-E - 5 trips - 15-30mg
2C-I - 1 trip - 20mg
DXM - 35-40 trips - 250-600mg
2C-B - 23mg - first time 2 weeks ago
MDMA - ~15-20 rolls - 100-250MG
Mephedrone - 10-12, 125-175mg
Diphenhydramine - uncounted - 25-325mg
I have taken the following recreational stimulants:
Adderall IR and XR - many times, 30-120mg.
Vyvanse - every day for a year - have taken as much as 180 mg
Methylphenidate - 250-500 times - 10-40mg
Cocaine - ~10 times - .5-3.5g
MDPV - 250-500 times - 50-100mg(vaped) -
Pure Crystal Methamphetamine - 250-500 times, 50-75mg vaped
2-FMA - 10-12 times - 20-50mg
4-FA - 3 times - 110+mg
You get the idea...
Set and Setting:
I am just naturally a very optimistic, positive person, but I haven't always been. I have grown a lot over the past 5 years (completed rehab, relapsed, got married, got divorced, and now I'm doing better than ever.) I have, very thankfully due to my preparation, never had a bad trip on any psychedelic, even 30mg 2C-E followed by 15mg insufflated 2.5h in. Also, and this could have been a factor in the trip, I first tried 2C-B two weeks ago at 23mg. Enjoyable experience, over in 3-4 hours. However, I was in a supremely good mood tonight, even though our festival got canceled. Everyone but me would be dropping tabs of E, although I had plenty of 2c-b so they had the option if they wanted it. We were planned to rave at my sister's and her husbands apartment - very comfortable setup with glowsticks, good bass, laser show, blacklights, and blackout curtains. We listen to a lot of deep house, trance, big room bass, some trap...feel good, get your ass up and dance music. Essentially, this was the setup for The Perfect Trip.
My goal:
My goal for this trip was to see how long I could extend the effects of 2C-B by carefully timed redosing, and potentiate them with the addition of Noopept. The methamphetamine would be used simply to provide a baseline of energy, Phenibut eliminates anxiety, and cannabis is necessary for many reasons, especially nausea on the comeup.
Result:
Huge fucking success.
Trip Report:
Got a good night's sleep last night, ate two good meals today, stayed hydrated. Only substances used in the last 24 hours were crystal meth and cannabis.
T - 01:30 - 30mg crystal meth (oral), 20mg Noopept
T - 00:30 - 30mg crystal meth (oral)
Feeling fairly positive and energetic.
T - 00:00 - 26mg 2C-B Hbr
T + 00:30 - Began to get tingling sensations on my arms, and little jolts of something pleasurable moving through my chest occasionally when I drew breath. I'd read that 2C-B is incredibly dose specific, so I was curious about what the difference between 23 (what I took 2 weeks ago) and 26mg would be. No one else had really started to roll yet.
T + 00:45 - Visuals became very apparent. Light seemed to be transfixed in the air, as if it was made of something transparent but solid. The laser show on the walls looked incredible, with tracers very apparent
T + 01:00 - The body high seems to travel by electrical current through the synapses of all the nerves in my body, spreading pleasure all over until it builds and peaks, very nearly resulting in an orgasm. I lie on the bed, feeling the euphoria wash over me as the energy from the meth is giving me the desire to get up and move, so I spend the next hour with my spirit hood and rave mask on, dancing away with my friend Elsa (name changed).
T + 02:00 - I'm fucking floored. The visuals aren't quite as intense as two weeks ago, and the body high is just barely not quite as orgasmic, but the empathy and love I was feeling at this point was intense. My head space was very clear, but intoxicated on happiness and contentment. I could speak clearly and had no trouble with coordination, yet I still very much felt fucked up. Combining the 2C-B with the smooth, clean stimulant boost from the meth was a brilliant idea. I was so into the music, and didn't want to stop moving, but if I decided to I could be completely still. Objects are morphing and doing what I call flowing, although I guess rippling might be somewhat accurate also. Everything that touched my skin felt unbelievably hedonistic. Elsa gave me a professional hand massage - Holy shit. I know you're thinking well, that's kinda weird. But if you haven't, please have someone give you a hand massage the next time you are rolling or tripping on 2c-b, and then you will understand.
T + 02:45 - Everyone is peaking on their tabs and I'm tripping balls, and yet I feel completely in control with no discomfort at all. I feel a sense of love and connectedness that I dont remember from my first 2c-b trip. It wasn't as overwhelming as the feels from mdma, but it was very noticeable. So, then I drop the second dose for the night, 18mg, along with another 30mg crystal. Everyone else drops another tab. I planned the dose timing in such a way that I would have peaked off the initial dose and plateaud, so dropping a 2nd time wouldn't intensify the effects, merely extend them, and I could continue raving along with everyone rolling. This worked beautifully, way beyond any and all expectation.
T + 03:45 - I could tell when the 2nd dose hit. The visuals got more intense (they had leveled off slightly) and began moving faster. I was peaking really hard - dancing was incredible. The music was just...it moved through the tapestry of everything and everyone in the room. When Josh put on a LED glove show, my world exploded in light, and color, and patterns. And watching the lasers and lights through your phone's camera is crazy fucking trippy. Then we all went around in a circle and said what loved about each person in the group. It was incredibly spiritual and intense - we are all very close and the words that were spoken were beautiful.
T + 04:45 - We all drop again, and this time Elsa drops 15mg 2C-B with me. Within a half hour, she and I are dancing together, doing spins and twirls and just killing it - and I don't even really know how to dance, I just kinda get out there and move around to the music and hope it works out. Sometimes it does, but this was crazy! We were on the same level all night - and the night was far from over. We take the dog out for a walk, and as we look at the branches of a tree on the verge of losing its leaves for winter, we realize that the branches of the trees closely resemble to capillaries of our lungs, and that the trees are the lungs of the world. If was a pretty crazy realization and while I really didn't expect to get any insight like that whole on 2c-b, I certainly got some.
T + 06:45 - Elsa and I feel fucking amazing. The timing and size of the redoses has allowed the 2C-B's effects to continue in all of their unabated glory for 6 or 7 hours. It's now 5:15am, and we all decide go redose one last time. Elsa takes another 15mg of 2c-b, as do I. I also took another 30mg meth. Those who chose mdma alone said they felt great and were having a good time, but they looked like hell. Sweating, not moving around too too much, sunken eyes, complaints about nausea, dry mouth...elsa had some stomach issues, but I had 0, and by this point I'd consumed 74mg 2C-B Hbr and 120mg crystal meth over the course of 7 hours. We continued dancing and tripping as the sun threatened to peek over the horizon, illuminating the mystery of the dark with the majesty of the sun.
T + 08:45 - Still tripping balls. Elsa is starting to pass out, and everyone else is coming down as well. Except for me. I can definitely discern a decrease in the intensity of effects, but they are still present. I have now been full on tripping on 2C-B for nearly 9 hours. I thought I'd be able to redose once if I was lucky, and that was it. Holy shit, that is not the case!
T + 11:00 - Definitely coming down, but still getting visuals. Wtf! I feel fine and still have energy, but everyone else is tired and ready to turn down. This trip has been easily controllable the entire time. I was able to switch between dancing my heart out and laying down without moving effortlessly. There was one point I felt on the verge of experiencing something rather dramatic visually, but it dissipated. The trip was pretty much over, and Manchester United was on TV playing Man City, so we said goodbye to the music and I watched the game while everyone else crashed.
T + 15:30 - Still awake, took one more 30mg meth to stay awake. Wishing maybe I would have gotten a fee hours sleep instead, but I need to be able to go to sleep early tonight so I can have a full nights sleep before work tomorrow. I feel good, somewhat spacey. Like the first few seconds immediately following an orgasm, but not as incapacitating. I'm about to smoke some meth as that tends to provide me with a cleaner, calmer high than any other ROA. I'm also going to take 1000mg of phenibut to ease any lingering after effects.
Conclusion: 2C-B truly is magical, just as Shulgin describes. It makes the world seem like a much more colorful place. Apparently at some point in the trip we were outside, with light playing off the clouds and I described what I saw as the realization that the entire universe is made out of light, and therefore everything that exists is actually made out of rainbows, and 2C-B allows you to see glimpses of what it looks and feels like. As long as there are no troubling, lingering after effects I will absolutely take this trip again; this combination would be perfect for a festival, or if you only redose once it would be good for just one night shows as well. And, as last night proves (I'm at T + 17:00 and still not completely back to baseline - most likely due to either the amount of 2c-b consumed or the noopepts potentiation effect), this I great for home rolls as well. If you want to chill more than dance and move, either cut the meth dose in half (take doses 1 and 3 instead of all 4) or eliminate it altogether. However, I do feel that the stimulation from the meth is at least partly what allowed me to exert such extensive control over the trip, so that is something to consider as well. Thank you for reading, I hope this has been helpful.
***Important Update Please Read****
T + 48 - I have developed a disorder called HPPD. It is Hallucinogenic persistent perceptions Disorder. I'm getting slight wiggly worms but haven't been all wiggly. I saw words breathe and had an unexpected intense body roll hit me whole driving home, I'd that doesn't help out let me know. I have had internal and auditory hallucinations as well.
T + 72 Vistas much less prone to bad vibes compared to everything else. Less intense visuals, more intense body load. Not pleasurable, bc I was trying not to crash into the other thousands of cars.
T + 96h Not back to baseline, but nothing significantly altered. No body load today and only slight visuals.
Again, despite this being the best trip of my life and having very few negative side effects, this is not an experience I wish to repeat nor is it something anyone should try. It is dangerous, and can result in a permanent hallucinatory state. I really regret not just enjoying 2cb for its own experience, and trying to force it to be what I wanted it to be. It worked with flying colors. Unfortunately those colors didn't go away when the trip ended.
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