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7 years medical training.... Really??

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Ok I've gotta find a new GP, my current one is a danger to people. Just been prescribed some codeine for my back and this is a direct quote, she said "Be careful with these pills because they contain a rather large dose of opium". I'm pretty sure just saying this is an opiate and can be addictive would've done. This is the same Dr who refused to taper me off temazepam as she said Benzo withdrawals were purely psychological.

Anyone else ever experienced such nonsense from a clearly misinformed gp??
 
Some GPs qualified decades ago, so medicine has changed a fuck load. I don't think they need to update their knowledge, so you get some seriously awful ones. One told my sister to keep on smoking when she had tonsilitus because he believed quitting would make it worse. The worst is when they don't diagnose properly. My old law teacher lost her husband because the doctor 'missed' a brain tumour. The same doctor 2 years prior had missed the symptoms of a brain tumour in some other bloke who flipped out and killed his entire family then hung himself.
 
Every GP that I have met has been totally useless when faced with anything even slightly complicated, I am sure there are some good ones somewhere but I am yet to meet one. Dr google is 100 times better.
 
shitty. i have to say that the shitty quality of care does seem to be exaggerated. or my view is skewed cuz my dad is a doctor and knew which to avoid, as i have not had any bad experiences. but haven't really had to use doctors since that was taken care of.
 
When my missus was on 20mg citalopram, the same Dr said if that doesnt work the next step would be lithium. I had to step in there, that is simply ridiculous. I might report her actually, god knows what other bullshit she comes out with to others.
 
My current GP seems OK but my last one was awful. I had (still have) a bad neck, it kind of grinds when I turn my head and although it's not a problem most of the time, sometimes it gets so painful I have to have a lie down. I asked the doctor about it and he just said "as we get older our joints become less flexible" basically telling me it's old age, I was only fucking 29.

My brother died after his GP missed the fact he had bowel cancer. He had been severly constipated and was bleeding a bit from his bum. The GP gave him laxatives. He thought it was bullshit so he took himself to A&E, they told him if he'd taken the laxatives it could have killed him. Unfortunately the tumours killed him soon after.

I hesitate to lay all the blame on individual GPs though. The system is utter bullshit. It must be awful being a GP who actually cares about doing a decent job. 10 minutes per appointment, dozens of patients a day many of whom are difficult, little opportunity to actually use the years of training; it can't be much different to factory work!
 
GP's are useless at anything beyond handing out flu shots and antibiotics. Most of them are in it for a cushy job where they can make a neat 6 figures while sitting in a warm office all day. Sad but true.
 
@knockando - that is a really harsh story dude, so sorry about your brother. Did you file any complaints about the gp? Because that is simply incompetence.
 
Give someone like shambles some certificates, etc and he'd make a better GP than most.

The main gripe I had was with a middle aged GP who I'd never met before.
I told him there was something weird rattling around up my nose and it wouldn't come out.

I also asked if might be related to snorting coke. To which he almost hit the roof in complete shock.
He just told me I was fine and imagining things.

A few months later I ended up pulling what looked like a weird tumour bag thing out my nose. Turned out to be a polyp.

My addaction worker said it could've been dangerous and should've been surgically removed.
 
My addaction worker went mad when i told him the Dr wouldnt taper my temazepam addiction, luckily they put me on a valium taper. I Dread to think what would've happened if not, seizure city most probably.
 
Any advice I've ever had from a GP, regarding a vast array of subjects I'd learnt myself prior thanks to a simple search on Google pre-meeting. I find GPs are only good for getting your name down on the 'list' for whatever the problem is, after that just keep going and going until they redirect you to someone worthy of the title 'professional'.
 
GPs in modern medicine exist solely to refer people elsewhere. But Psychiatrists are even worse, I'll see you for 3 minutes (actual figure from experience), diagnose you with two lifelong illnesses/labels and prescribe neuro/hepatoxic drugs to you.
 
If I could have afforded private care I would have, immediately. The last things you need when seeking Psychiatric care is to not even be worth 5 minutes of someone's time.
 
SproutOnSmack said:
If I could have afforded private care I would have, immediately. The last things you need when seeking Psychiatric care is to not even be worth 5 minutes of someone's time.
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It's unbelievable isn't it? I have been waiting over two months just to get a psychiatric assessment interview. Unless you're literally about to top yourself (or someone else) it's treated like something cosmetic.
 
I have a long time friend who is a very senior nurse at a big London Hospital, she only trains and lectures now but spent many years on the wards. In her view its about a 60 / 40 split in general in medicine, with only 40% should be in the job th rest are just making up the numbers.

I've had a shed load of problems with GPs, probably the worst episode, although far from the only one was quite long time ago a new GP started treating my acute Psoriasis (skin condition) with steroid creams, he kept giving me stronger and stronger cream and refusing to refer me to a dermatologist, it got worse and I was using allot of very strong steroid cream twice daily.
Then he panicked and suddenly refused to give me any more and referred me to the dermatologist, I said he could leave me without any treatment for weeks like that, I was probably at about 30% body coverage at this time, but he wouldn't have it. Fortunately I got the appointment through for about 4 weeks away but within a week my skin was really bad and I started to feel ill at work and actually collapsed. I was OK but I wasn't feeling right at all. I soldiered on until the appointment thinking it might be something else making me ill, maybe all the pills (MDXX) I was doing, I didn't connect anything up.

Went to the appointment and the dermatologist was spot on she said that the GP had been totally irresponsible in his actions as the rebound effect from coming off the steroids had caused my psoriasis to really flare up to a state where it was becoming life threatening at nearly 50% coverage, during the discussion she asked if I had been feeling OK and I said no and explained the symptoms, she was concerned that I might have an issue with my adrenal gland as I had been taking in so much steroid so I had to have a synacthen test, it test how well your adrenal gland is working, well mine wasn't and I collapsed after they gave me the shot and woke up on oxygen.

I had to go on oral steroids for months then slowly taper off as well as go on a course of Cyclosporine which is a nasty immune system suppressant they usually give to kidney transplant patients to get my skin under control, it made me ill for fekin ages.

I learnt through that that if your GP is shit see another one and repeat until you find one that's OK you don't have to give a reason, I never see me official doctor at the surgery I go to now, he's a useless waste of space who never even looks up from his screen and pays no attention to anything that you say. The one I see won't use the stupid speaker system he comes out and finds his next patient, always shakes my hand and asks how I am before getting down to medical business.

Sorry for the long post but believe me that's the tip of the ice berg:\
 
^shit! i've got really lucky then. takes at least a month to get an appt with my current GP, often you can't make one cuz they're all booked up. you have to make the system work for you.
 
Have I ever met a GP like that? Practically all the GPs I've met are like that. You have to understand the way they are trained. They are trained to look for X symptoms, and then follow the treatment protocol which is almost always the same. Their job is simply to correlate symptoms to a drug prescription protocol; their pharmacy training is not all that advanced, not like a pharmacist.

If you want to know detailed knowledge on drugs, talk to a pharmacist, not a GP. GPs are following what their big blue book says. The only thing that is difficult about their profession is forming the diagnosis correctly because the drug protocol will be based on that; however, in my experience, the diagnosis is usually not accurate either.

In my strong opinion, MDs should not be treating chronic illness, unless the symptoms have gotten so bad that symptom management is needed. They usually don't cure anything.
 
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