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7.30 Report, ABC- GHB Report

killarava2day

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New party drug leaves no margin for error
Reporter: Mick Bunworth


KERRY O'BRIEN: It's an illicit party drug with no margin for error and emergency medical staff around the country are reporting an increase in its use.

GHB -- gamma-hydroxybutyrate -- is cheap, easy to manufacture or buy and will render its users unconscious and unable to breathe if they overdose by just a few millilitres.

Little wonder it's been dubbed by some as GBH -- grievous bodily harm.

Mick Bunworth reports.

'MARK', GHB USER: Well,it is a dangerous drug.

There's danger wherever you take it, there is always going to be danger.

Also, at those sort of places your friends run off, leave you or, you know, you may took too much because you're not dosing right in the right atmosphere, right light.

MICK BUNWORTH: Drugs and dance parties.

It's no secret that where you find one you'll usually find the other.

But it's a recent addition to the dance party drug menu, gamma-hydroxybutyrate or GHB, that has those who know this scene so worried.

PAUL DILLON, NATIONAL DRUG & ALCOHOL RESEARCH CENTRE: I think the reality is that most young people who use GHB don't even really realise that they're using GHB.

Many are being sold the drug as liquid E, liquid X or liquid ecstasy believing it to be ecstasy in a liquid form.

MICK BUNWORTH: But whereas ecstasy is a stimulant, GHB is a central nervous system depressant, originally developed as an anaesthetic and that's what makes it such a dangerous drug.

PAUL DILLON: When it comes to GHB, the difference between having a pleasurable experience and the chance of you ending up on life support in an emergency room is very, very small.

If you look at a drug like ecstasy, the gap between those two is really quite huge.

PAUL CURRIE, DIRECTOR, 'ONE PERFECT DAY': It's a really dangerous drug that is given to young people because they can't afford to take an E, so a lot of people call it like liquid ecstasy, they will take this cheap hit to feel good but it's really dangerous and it's almost, even within the culture, it's really looked down upon.

MICK BUNWORTH: Director Paul Currie has spent the past two years making the recently released picture film One Perfect Day which celebrates the rave scene but also deals with drugs and death.

PAUL CURRIE: We just said, "Here's a young girl that's experimenting with a cocktail and that can be fatal."

And statistics would prove that, that when you start experimenting, particularly without knowing what you're taking, that is where it get dangerous.

MICK BUNWORTH: But the events depicted in 'One Perfect Day' could be a case of art imitating life.

Recently, several hospitals in Melbourne experienced a surge in GHB overdoses after dance parties in the city.

The overdoses created headlines on the day, but paramedics say they've been dealing with GHB's casualties for several years.

ALAN EADE, PARAMEDIC: The last nine months have seen a dramatic spike in GHB presentations to ambulance and so I correlate that there is an increase in use.

MICK BUNWORTH: It's not surprising that GHB use is on the rise.

The 7.30 Report was able to find recipes for GHB on the Internet within seconds.

And even within the rave community, the drug is dividing opinion.

In monitoring Internet forums, we discovered that some people who may use ecstasy or other substance are vehemently opposed to GHB.

And the range of people exposed to the drug runs right across the community.

One person with the pseudonym Candy Raver declined our request for an interview because he or she was a doctor.

But one user, we'll call him Mark, did agree to an interview.

He also agreed to show us what GHB looks like and what precautions he takes so that he and his friend don't overdose.

Why do you take it?

'MARK': Um, good question, why do people drink?

I guess to get the relaxed feeling.

When I first felt the feelings of it -it's euphoric, sense of wellbeing, relax.

This is the pure G.

I usually use a measuring syringe.

I know that 2mm of pure is right for me.

So I've diluted the water so it's nine parts water and one part G.

I've diluted it so, 20mm is the right dose for me.

I'll put that in a glass, mix with orange juice.

ALAN EADE: The users who think that they can use GHB safely are kidding themselves.

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I really don't think that this was much of a beat up.

I found it quite factual to tell you the truth. And certainly not hysterical. It talked to people from both sides of the camp and didn't try to demonise anyone.

The closing comment was that whilst there are some who can use it safely and responsibly.. It's those young kids who choose not to inform or educate themselves on harm minimisation who are most at risk.

Can't argue with that.
 
Apparently they've been monitoring internet forums, they only person approached one person for an interview and he could have been more knowledgable, but at least we got some representation.

A Dr. claimed that there have been 4 deaths in Australia from G but believes there have been more.
 
Macksta said:
I wonder who the doctor 'KandiRaver' is.. are they a BL'er?

Hehehe same, I had re-read that part to see I read correctly! Thats a fuken pisser!!

But yer Im actually glad for once, that this is interview is very close to the truth, just look at 7 nightly news, I got a family member to tape that and they way they portrayed the rave scence and etc... I just fuken laughed at it.
 
aesop- Contatct your ABC... I'm sure they would have a copy, or most libraries worth their salt should have access to a copy, even if they have to order it in from the ABC themselves.

Good luck.
 
Not a bad report. Its nice to see them actually talking to someone who actually *uses* the stuff responsibly. It definately beats a "This is evil! Lock up your children!!" kind of report which we all read everywhere else.

I dont mind the media saying drugs are bad, as long as they have the decency to find out from the users why they do it instead of making everything up.

stace.
 
killarava2day said:
Apparently they've been monitoring internet forums, they only person approached one person for an interview and he could have been more knowledgable, but at least we got some representation.

Well to tell you the truth, it was me who was interviewed under the name 'Mark'.

Mick did write up a post on this very forum asking people to come forward and share their veiws, and as far as i know, i was the only one interested. I was interviewed for a good 1.5-2 hours, and asked many questions, of which only a couple were shown. Therefore not everything i said was aired.

Also, at those sort of places your friends run off, leave you or, you know, you may took too much because you're not dosing right in the right atmosphere, right light.

This is the only qualm i have about this report. It made out that this is what always happens at dance parties, whereas the real question he asked me was "Why is it not a good idea to use GHB at large dance parties"

I must say that i am quite happy with this report. I thought it was as well balanced as a report of this type is going to be. Good job Mick.

*Disclaimer*
The blue liquid show on the report was NOT GHB, or any other illegal substance. It was food dye in water, just incase anyone thought otherwise. I no longer use GHB.
 
From what I read I thought you and he did a pretty good job.
I'm glad someone from here spoke to him I was considering doing it but was too worried about recognition, a lot of my family that doesn't know i take drugs watch ABC.
It was a damn site less biased than some of the other crap that has been in the media about GHB.
 
Catax said:
From what I read I thought you and he did a pretty good job.
I'm glad someone from here spoke to him I was considering doing it but was too worried about recognition, a lot of my family that doesn't know i take drugs watch ABC.
The crew did a good job to try and disguise me by using silhouette lighting and they changed my voice a little, but anyone who knows me could still figure it out with ease.

It was a damn site less biased than some of the other crap that has been in the media about GHB.
True.
 
Catex there is no shame in watching the ABC, i'm sure your family wouldn't mind.


Beech out
 
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I have no shame in watching ABC. Most of my family watches it. If I was on there talking about my drug use esp ghb My extended family would get on the phone to my parents and whatever. My parents know what I get up to and are 100% supportive but I wouldn't want my grandma to know. sorry off topic
 
I thought out of all stories on illicit drugs that you see on the mainstream news and current affairs programs that was one of the best and fairest i had seen.

The closing comment was a Godsend because it is what the majority of Bluelighters with half a clue think themselves.

I think it is good that it was clear there is a big problem with GHB at dance parties and that I agree with. Hey it even seemed that MDMA was elevated by the story. I know that it is not necessarily a good thing to demonise one thing and thereby improve the view of the other, but by being tough on GHB they were more truthful about the true dangers of MDMA - something that clearly has been misconstrued in the past.

My only wish was that the underlying cause of all these mass GHB overdoses was not exposed. That of course being that by making it illegal and turning it from a powder purchased in cartons from shops into a liquid peddled in vials with no labelling and absolutely no ability in discerning GHBs most vital variable - the dose. Not to mention the fact that most GHB is now only ever a liquid as it is actually GBL or 1,4-BD. Again that is caused by GHB prohibition in the first place.

Well done Shorza. Im sure Johnboy can sympathise with how irritating it is being interviewed for so long and offering so many points but then have them cut and paste your interview. Obviously most interviews will not totally reflect what you have to say and the message that you could get across if you were given free range.

Saying that i thought it was a great piece. Im glad someone from here answered the call which lets face it, when was the last time a new agency extended us that sort of curteousy. Inviting interest by coming to BL was very refreshing.
 
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The Bold and the Sensible

Had a funny feeling "Mark" was a Bluelighter. Good on you for being so bold Shorza.

I know all about the long interview/what's used scenario, having once been interviewed for a good 1/2 an hour by Channel 10. The only piece used lasted a whole 10 secs :\

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will the 7.30 report be rescreening this story again at any time? I know 4 corners is replayed, but unsure about 7.30 report. Second thoughts, with the name of the show finding a time to rescreen could be a problem =D
 
^^ Fuckin', ay! I'd be chuffed, that's the BL equivilent of a Purple Heart or some shit =D

Yeah, good job shorza, I didn't really mean my earlier comment

/grins sheepishly

Nah, anyway you could tell that the interview was heavily edited. At least it was the 7:30 Report an not ACA, they woulda made you out as a bloodthirsty rapist 8o
 
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