6th Issue Heroin Discussion Thread... v. Doprah

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most mexicans i have dealt with speak very little english,

drugs are colors: green, white, brown, and if u dont want weed coke or dope ur pretty much shit outta luck. they know colors and numbers in english tho

and of the mexican dealers who i have dealt with that speak english fluently it was just called 'pieces' .2-.3 pieces of tar wrapped in a wierd kinda plastic

but i buy most my dope from blacks now days

no body calls dope blows around here, if u say blow ppl think coke
 
ahh makes sense. thanks HoL.

and yeah I hear the blows thing is particular to chicago. confusing as blow is such common slang for coke. Actually the first time I heard someone yell ROCKS! BLOWS! park - I thought they were selling power and rock cocain tbh, but I really didn't give it much thought because at that time I wasn'treally into any of it.
 
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yes San Antonio is bigger then Austin by population but everyone in texas knows that austin is where the drugs are at, i mean im not tryin to say heroin isnt in san antonio cuz that shit comes straight up I35 and dont stop but once ur in texas its just the general knowledge that austin is where the good is at

easy availability great prices good quality has always been my experience in austin, n thats weed, coke, X, and i assume heroin, although i dont vacation as much once i got a dope habit :(

I see what you mean. Austin is a college town, friend of mine goes to school there. Likes it a lot. She said its a pretty chill place ;) anyway, uh.. ive said it already. There IS dope on the streets of SA. Most likely, theres a spot 10 mins away, tops, from where hes at (if living in city). You just need to know where to look.lol. its a good thing he cant find dope. He cant be hooked then.
 
Sup everyone, got some more fire dubs in the chi! Normally I'd take 2-3 sawbucks to get high, but with these pink-tape dubs I can split it in half and get a damn near good buzz. I'm on cloud 9 over how good these are, plus saves me a little bit of cash. Pfft, what am I saying? Realistically I'll probably just get twice as high...derp.

Anyone else wind up doing the same thing?
 
I want to say thank you to everyone for their comments on H in San Antonio...I am now on the search. Now I have a good excuse to go walk around the riverwalk. It would really be sweet to get in with the mexicans, but I don't even know where to start. I was really just thinking about asking one of the 10 million bums that knock on my car window. If I can't find anything, I might try going to Austin.

Anyway, thanks again for the advice. I will let y'all know if I find anything.

You got a lot of responses, but I just felt like throwing in my two cents. I was in San Antonio for about 4 months, and that place was nice! Riverwalk was amazing, and bars were everywhere. My advice in that area is maybe try to find a bar that isn't frequented by military personnel. Since San Antonio has an army base (ft. sam houston) and an airforce base (lackland AFB) you're going to see a lot of them. Doubt you'll find help from any of them. Also, look around cheap hotels.

Let us know with an update how it went.
 
For anybody who don't check the Drugs in the Media part, it's a shitty day in Pittsburgh. Well, at least in my hood anyways.

It is on fuckin FIRE out here. Despite not wanting to, I had to walk and get a Dutchie last night at like 11. Sure enough like I predicted task force cruised by in like a fuckin 98 buick when I was walkin up then I'm walkin back sure enough they come squeelin up harassin the shit out of me pretty much tellin me since I'm white I'm lyin about livin 2 blocks away(yeah I forgot whites and blacks livin in the same house is unheard of in fuckin 2011) Then they was askin where I was plannin to cop and that "you musta not heard what happened today." So finally another task force car pulls up and they recognized me.

One of em told them I lived here for a long time so Herc and Carver (thats what the first two jump out boys reminded me of haha they musta been new cuz I never seen em) decided to let me go. But not before tellin me next time I wont be so lucky and if they catch me without a ID again they're takin me to county to process me so they'll know for sure who I am.

"North Side will not be the heroin capital of this area any longer."
http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11063/1129584-53.stm

Last night I was trying to sleep and I just kept hearin that shit over and over in my head in the dude from Channel 11's voice. "north side no longer heroin capital" don't even fuckin sound like it should be in the same sentence. So much for the good old days, I used to be able to walk a couple blocks up empty handed, and walk back with a couple buns.

I know this obviously ain't goin to shut down whole neighborhood for an extended period of time but fuck looks like this summer is going to be hotter then last and shit is definitely goin to be dead today. Might be time for me to take my ass to the sub clinic cuz I never woulda even started doin' d if it wasn't easier to get then a fuckin pack of squares. God damnit I really thought shit was on the up and up to.

I know I'm one of the only people that post here from PGH but just in case some mufuckers is readin that cop in Manchester/Central Northside/Brighton Heights you better start networkin with ya boys cuz every phone # I got is turned off includin my people from the East Side. And anybody that go to the northside projects up on the hill with the view I heard they was lettin white boys thru the security gate and then pullin em when they come back thru....just somethin to think about.
 
Sup everyone, got some more fire dubs in the chi! Normally I'd take 2-3 sawbucks to get high, but with these pink-tape dubs I can split it in half and get a damn near good buzz. I'm on cloud 9 over how good these are, plus saves me a little bit of cash. Pfft, what am I saying? Realistically I'll probably just get twice as high...derp.

Anyone else wind up doing the same thing?
man dont be fallin for that "dubs" scam they try and run...9/10 times i see/ hear of dubs its really sawbucks, they try callin them dubs if your new to the block or look like a scared easy mark and when they are dubs there is no extra dope in it just extra cut..i mean you said normally you need 2 or 3 sawbucks..well 1dub is 2sawbucks so its not like its any better..your still using the same amount..persoanlly id move on from the dubs and look something better

cause it could be real dubs but i highly highly doubt it...i mean sawbucks is the universal chicago denomination...no matter if its rocks or blows and when they try tellin me something differnt im suspicious..the only thing i would buy as a dub with no questions asked would be weed


do you slam or snort?

what's the mexican slang for dope? cheeba? In the chi do call it blows too like the blacks?
it all depends if they are sellin powder or tar..here in chicago ive never seen tar, so they call dope the same things as the blacks do...blows..and id be willing to bet if they did have tar here they would call it the same thing..its just a chicago thing

if your in the south or in cali they will call it chiva or negra or black...cheeba is slang for marijuana, you should know that..thats an old slang term for weed...unless you dont smoke

everything is easier to find in austin,

but dont expect much difference, its not open air and its gonna most likely be from mexians

but atleast in austin u can just go to the right club/restaurant/venue with the right music scene n ask around n can find something, that way u can sidestep the asking random mexicans part but IMO ur better off tryin to ask some mexicans

but yea, if bums are rushin ur car ask em who can find the dope, why not?

im curious as to see what type of bar /venue you would consider being good for heroin? like what type music would you want playing at the bar to find dope? like a hip hop venue would be good for weed and rolls but what about dope?

and with austin being a college town, it wouldnt hurt askin some transient looking kid instead of a real bum
 
seems like these big dope busts happen once a month here

Authorities: $1 million in heroin, $300,000 seized

HAMMOND, Ind. — Three men from Mexico face federal drug charges after Drug Enforcement Administration agents said they seized $1 million in heroin stowed in a specially made compartment of a van in Chicago and $300,000 in cash hidden in a bus stopped by Indiana State Police along Interstate 65.

The Post-Tribune of Merrillville and The Times of Munster report that Carlos Martinez, Carlos Javier Salas-Delgado and Otiniel Nava-Barragan are charged with conspiracy to possess with intent to distribute at least five kilograms. They made their initial court appearances in federal court in Hammond on Wednesday and were ordered held without bond until a detention hearing on Friday.

The Times reported that Martinez's lawyer, Paul Stracci, says his client denies the allegations. Salas-Delgado's attorney declined comment. Nava-Barragan did not yet have a lawyer.

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/news/chi-ap-in-heroinarrests,0,6260676.story


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not much of an article but still these busts happen too often and it seems to always be 3 mexicans not 2 not 4 but 3 and its always mexicans never blacks or white guys

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heres another cool article about how mexico is producing "white" heroin now and some other things

UN report: increase in Mexican heroin heading to US, cartels put pressure on Central America



MEXICO CITY (AP) — A U.N. anti-narcotics agency cited a worrisome rise in shipments of increasingly pure Mexican heroin to the United States, and said in a report Wednesday that Mexican cartels are an increasing threat in Central America.

The International Narcotics Control Board says Mexican cartels are displacing Colombian traffickers, the traditional suppliers of much of the heroin consumed in the United States, and opium poppy production is on the rise in Mexico, said board member Jorge Montano.

Montano told a news conference said that as much as 5,000 hectares (12,355 acres) of opium poppies in Mexico "are basically intended for the United States."

The rise also had been noted by the U.S. Justice Department, which said in a 2010 report that Mexican cartels had more than doubled their heroin production in the preceding year.

Mexico had long been a transit route for processed Colombian heroin, while Mexican production remained mostly semi-processed paste or 'tar.'

But the board said "there are some indications that 'white heroin' of greater purity is being illegally produced in Mexico" and sometimes mixed with Colombian heroin.

The Mexican government recently released figures showing that poppy eradication in Mexico has fallen dramatically since President Felipe Calderon launched an offensive against drug cartels in December 2006.

While the government destroyed 21,600 hectares of poppies in 2005 and 16,900 hectares in 2006, that fell to 11,400 in 2007.

The Mexican army, which does most of the country's eradication work, apparently has shifted its efforts to other activities, such as raiding gang strongholds, patrolling cities and manning checkpoints.

Federal security spokesman Alejandro Poire said eradication is again increasing, reaching 13,200 hectares in 2008 and 14,800 in 2009, the last year for which figures are available.

But Montano said heroin production has been shifting toward Mexico "because the Colombians were very effective in 2008 in eliminating a large number of hectares" of poppy fields.

The report also said that 90 percent of the cocaine entering the U.S. flows through Mexico, though Mexican cartels get most of their money from marijuana sales: $8.5 billion annually, or 61 percent of their estimated annual income.

Mexican cartels are flexing their muscles in other ways, as well.

After Mexico cracked down on imports of precursor chemicals used to make methamphetamines in 2007, the cartels began importing them through Central America, often from front companies in Bangladesh.

He said sophisticated labs at Mexican seaports are better at detecting disguised shipments than those in other countries. Once on land, it is easier to move them across borders.

The report also said that the street value of drugs moving through the Caribbean region at any time is larger than the legitimate economy, though it did not say how it determined that.

The board said Brazil is increasingly used as a route for shipping South American cocaine to West Africa, and it criticized the Bolivian government for a lack of action in combating production of coca, the raw material of cocaine.

President Evo Morales, a former coca growers union leader who expelled U.S. drug agents three years ago, has promoted traditional uses of coca leaf while professing zero tolerance for cocaine trafficking.

But the INCB cited a report from the United Nations Office of Drugs and Crime noting that Bolivia's overall coca cultivation had increased 1 percent in 2009 over the previous year, to 119 square miles (308 square kilometers). INCB said that was enough land to allow for the harvest of 40,200 tons of coca leaves — the largest amount in Bolivia since 1998.

"Those developments could increase the risk of coca leaf being diverted for use in the illicit manufacture of cocaine," the report stated.

In Brazil, drug traffickers are increasingly using the country's northeast to smuggle "a significant portion of cocaine from Bolivia, Colombia and Peru," the report found.

The INCB's report recognized Brazil's efforts to curb this trade, but called upon the government "to further intensify its efforts in this regard."

http://www.chicagobreakingnews.com/search/sns-ap-lt-latam-drug-report,0,7620961.story
 
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I've never dealt with mexicans - only blacks. As bad as the reputations are of some of the poor blk hoods in the chi, I really only worry about cops. the d boys are waiting to cater to you. But I would be a liitle nervious going in a mexican hood looking for dope. it seems they might beat your ass just because they're drunk and you happen to show up....I may be way off here but they way they control thier hoods are a bit different. Do the mexicans opperate in the open in chicago at all or do you have to be in the know? I know they odviously distribute shit to the blk streat dealers. I just heard not lng ago of a coke operation in the NW suburbs - dial and deliver service that was shut down but I haven't heard of any such operations involving h.

Are yyou on the nod chinky?
 
not to offend you but for real are you like 18years or something ? cause come on man your from chicago and do dope...you should know this stuff

no the mexicans do not run the same operations as the blacks..sure they got it but you have to know someone.. so dont go looking for some in their hood...they are heavier in the game then some nickel and dime dboys...they dont even allow people on the corners begging for change in their areas bro..you think they are gonna be standin on the corners? and ive said it a million times on here..they have alot more to lose...alot of the mexicans are living here illegal too so if they get popped for something like drugs best believe they are getting sent back...

and yeah i was noddin earlier

an interesting alternative to saboxone... or xanax coma

http://www.druglibrary.org/gh/ibogaine_as_a_treatment_for_hero.htm


short paragraph to summarize what ibogaine is and what it has been known to do. pretty amazing in my opinion..

this is nothing new....but no one talks about or wants this bacause you trip balls doing it....you couldnt pay me to trip balls let alone to cure a dope addiction
 
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not to offend you but for real are you like 18years or something ? cause come on man your from chicago and do dope...you should know this stuff

no the mexicans do not run the same operations as the blacks..sure they got it but you have to know someone.. so dont go looking for some in their hood...they are heavier in the game then some nickel and dime dboys...they dont even allow people on the corners begging for change in their areas bro..you think they are gonna be standin on the corners? and ive said it a million times on here..they have alot more to lose...alot of the mexicans are living here illegal too so if they get popped for something like drugs best believe they are getting sent back...

and yeah i was noddin earlier



this is nothing new....but no one talks about or wants this bacause you trip balls doing it....you couldnt pay me to trip balls let alone to cure a dope addiction

Take it easy on the "noobs" chinky!! They will learn, eventually.lol.

I just noticed that this thread has, like twice the views the NASASDD Charlie Sheen Thread has, but it has much less posts.. a lot of lurkers, apparently! Its chinkys fault, always puttin fools on blast! Hahahaha
 
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Update: I found a coke hook-up today from a friend at school....I feel my hunt for H in San Antonio may be coming to an end any day now =D
 
Austin Bars where Heroin is more likely to be found are the bars off the main "frat boy" sorority girl type bars,and more of the other kinda bars, even with hippie types at both types of bars, the frat type college hang out bars are more the weed,coke and mdma scoring places IMO, you just find a bar with other people..lol..older people, hippie types that are older than the college age hippie kids,although their will be the young hippies at these places, just older by a few years or more than the college kids, maybe a few biker types, a few thugs, lol,,you just gotta feel the places out! It will most likely not be where a buncha frat boys and people like that are getting shit faced drunk and smoking buds out behind the bars, it will be a more mellow,quiter type scene bar to find heroin in Austin, shit I can't explain it anymore without giving away a specific location or bar name so I gotta leave it at that...lol..those bars may be different than 4-5 years ago when I was there, but I know some people in Austin and they got the hookups for anything there,so heroin is for sure in Austin, but it is also in san antonio,Dallas,houston,Ft.Worth,etc.etc..most decent sized citys in Texas have heroin there,but the people are not as friendly about it normally than in austin and a few other citys..
 
not to offend you but for real are you like 18years or something ? cause come on man your from chicago and do dope...you should know this stuff

no the mexicans do not run the same operations as the blacks..sure they got it but you have to know someone.. so dont go looking for some in their hood...they are heavier in the game then some nickel and dime dboys...they dont even allow people on the corners begging for change in their areas bro..you think they are gonna be standin on the corners? and ive said it a million times on here..they have alot more to lose...alot of the mexicans are living here illegal too so if they get popped for something like drugs best believe they are getting sent back...

and yeah i was noddin earlier



this is nothing new....but no one talks about or wants this bacause you trip balls doing it....you couldnt pay me to trip balls let alone to cure a dope addiction

Mexicans that sell tar in chicago sell it for about the same price,I am told as a gram of good powder, so even if it's "fire tar" then you will pay a lot more for it in chicago than in Texas or elsewhere..Plus the Mexicans in Chigago are more hardcore in general, and tied into really big time dope game people, like cartels! So you don't want them to fuck you up,or to mess with them without knowing someone that speaks spanish, is from their neighborhood and will vouch for you,etc...
 
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