(6-apb/200mg) Moderately experienced: Absolutely spannered

[chronic bubonic]

Sat night 9:30 pm Ingested 100mg 6-APB, Research partner did the same (NB exact measurement not certain as chemical was in pill form and the 4 pills were different sizes) We ingested the two smallest ones first.

10:30pm Definitely started to feel effects, feeling warm and happy. We had started watching a film but turned it off in favour of music and chat. Over the next hour effects became more pronounced but so far no intense rushes

11:30pm Rushes becoming very noticeable, decided to half the biggest pill, halved it but decided to wait awhile before ingesting because we were feeling increasingly mashed. Prob ingested about midnight.

01:00am Feeling very very good and extremely wasted, halved the other pill (quite tricky because I kept dropping it), ingested it (my RP thought she had taken hers but found it in her hand about 15mins later so took it then)

03:00am By this point both I and my RP were virtually tripping although visual effects were minor, we were both unable to string a sentence together, nevertheless very much enjoying the effect, no apparent possibility of freak outs ala acid and mushrooms. Definitely a good effect, RP cuddling the cat scratching post at this point

05:00am I have previously noted aphrodisiac qualities of 6-apb, however at this dose, no chance, we were simply too wasted, went to bed and groped around for a couple of hours or so tho..

07:30am Effects waning but still pretty mashed, started to feel exhausted, I was also sweating a lot at this point but RP wasn’t, just about beginning to retain the power of coherent speech

08:00am decided to turn off music and rest, I slept for about 2/3 hours, woke up absolutely drenched in sweat. RP wasn’t sure whether she’d been to sleep or not and wasn’t sweating. RP was having a family gathering at her house (which is where we were) at 4PM so decided to set alarm for 2PM and went back to sleep, both slept, RP got up at 2, made coffee, and got up to clear up the detritus of the night before. I went back to sleep and woke up at about 4PM when her mother arrived.

16:30pm Got up, went and chatted to RPs mother about a 5* hotel she’d stayed at in Avignon, and various other France related topics. RP seemed pretty normal, I felt fine.

17:15pm I went home, feeling fine. A couple of friends came round and we ended up going out for a couple of pints (didn’t taste as nice as usual). Bumped into another friend who put me on the guest list for The Abyssinians who were playing that night. Went to see them, they were great, felt totally comfortable dancing at the front of the stage.

24:00pm Got home fell asleep on settee, woke up at 4AM went to bed, slept til 4 this afternoon. Have felt absolutely normal today. Woke up to find a text from RP who was at work, saying she was having an interesting but good day though tired….(22:30pm have just spoken to her shes fine but knackered after a long day)


Every bit of research needs a conclusion…

I am convinced that we did actually take 6-apb. Why? Because its very nice, very strong and unlike any other drug I have ever taken (tho I’ve never taken MDA)– if it is a different chemical, then why call it something it isn’t?.

My RP and I have experimented with 6-apb before, this weekends dose being double our last experiment. Wheras 100mg gives an effect – strength wise - akin to a healthy dose of good mdma, 200mg definitely shifts the experience into a more trippy domain, definitely too high a dosage to take when out clubbing, partying etc.. purely cos you’ll just end up a gibbering wreck in the corner.

Sitting in the pub quite happily, normally chatting to my mates just 12-14 hours since I had been so completely spannered was quite astonishing really…

The pill format of the 6-apb we took relies on others to determine the true dosage so dosage measurements are probably inaccurate and/or inconsistent. However I reckon 200mg was possibly too much, it was really good but just a little too wrecked to make sense at times. Having said that, it was really good, again… Could be the drugs, could be the environment, probably a mix of the two….


So, the final conclusion is 200mg is much stronger than 100mg….

 

[theotherside]

This is turning out to be one of the great new chemicals in the wake of the days when mephedrone/methylone ruled the entactogen RC market. Only seen a few bad reports and I loved it the three times I did it.

Good report and thanks for spreading the knowledge!

 

[Lazyscience]

its the apparent lack of bad comedown i find surprising. its making me want to try it out but i shouldnt do it before the end of this term at uni.

 

[Xamkou]

Once we sort out the price issues, I can see 6-APB becoming huge. If it went for cheap EDIT gram it would blow up worldwide.

 

[YaniCZka]

Once we sort out the price issues, I can see 6-APB becoming huge. If it went for cheap let's say EDIT it would blow up worldwide.

see what happened to mephedrone being so cheap. be glad that this one is so expensive that only people on certain level can afford it...

 

[nuke]

its the apparent lack of bad comedown i find surprising. its making me want to try it out but i shouldnt do it before the end of this term at uni.

MDA/MDMA doesn't usually have bad comedowns when it's pure, at least, in my subjective experience

 

[Lazyscience]

in my experience it annihilates me for days or maybe a week. my brain is weak.

 

[theotherside]

MDA/MDMA doesn't usually have bad comedowns when it's pure, at least, in my subjective experience

QFT. Pure MDMA has an easy comedown and allows for sleep within a few hours after the last dose. 6-APB never really gave me a "bad" comedown but it feels a little "nastier" on the body than MDMA does.

 

[chronic bubonic]

Once we sort out the price issues, I can see 6-APB becoming huge. If it went for cheap let's say EDIT it would blow up worldwide.

If it went for that price ie EDIT for the amount I took,particularly with the 2-3 hour come-up(!), then there would probably be many many people totally off their faces, many hospitalisations, and many governments/police forces/ambulance crews advocating immediate criminalisation. I wish it was cheaper too but EDIT would be dangerous..

Re: Comedown... Yeah I agree that mdma comedowns aren't too bad, and also I have been a bit tired this week. It was more the clear-headedness I was referring to, tho that may be as a result of feeling absolutely no desire to drink alcohol whilst on 6-apb... Also usually when i take mdma, I'm out and about prob partying or festival-ing or something similar, whereas all my 6-apb experiences have been at home.... I certainly havn't suffered a mid-week depression as sometimes happens following a mdma fuelled weekend..

Finally, after our last few experiments both my research partner and I have been quite excited about being able to have such substances delivered by our postpeople, and perhaps this has actually positively affected our perception of the substance. I remember, as a 16yr old finding magic mushrooms for the first time (on the school playing field), and having sampled them, my friend and I were in raptures that such things existed in our world, I don't think we ever for a moment thought we wouldn't be taking these things for the rest of our lives, they were so amazing, but nothing lasts for ever and after (quite) a few hefty explorations the initial excitement was lost (occasionally rekindled)...

consider if you will the music appreciation of a very young child... Even from babyhood to toddlerdom, their music appreciation evolves, at first they're excited by a basic simple melody from a simple toy, and as they repeatedly listen to this melody, their endorphins are carving connections in their brain, but after a while there are no more connections to be carved by this particular music.. it ceases to be exciting/stimulating.. So they progress on and on, throughout childhood, listening to ever more complex music, because it needs to get more complex to keep the endorphins interested. Once in adulthood however your taste has developed, still the music we want to hear is the music that excites us, but invariably that excitement will cease as our brain demands more/different stimulation

So I think what i'm saying is i get a good hit off 6apb compared to mdma because ive taken too much mdma in the past!!

 

[jebus197]

Your penultimate paragraph was almost poetic lol. Perhaps I will use it some day in some speech or other if you don't mind.

However this constant search for new forms of stimulation must also potentially hold the capacity for danger. Don't forget, you are not seeking a new symphony, rather just newer and (probably by definition more potent) ways to stimulate the brain. This unlike the pursuit of knowledge, or the effects of the exposure to music on the infant brain may well have an unforeseen cost.

After 4 years of quite regular MDMA use (about once or twice a month) and quite a lot of RC use over the last 2 or 3 years too, I can say personally that I'm not sure that cost is at all worthwhile.

Although I have been clean for about (or just under) a year, I can say that for all the joy that MDMA and it's analogues gave me, it has been followed by often long periods of crushing despair. Also before this period I was never an angry person, but now I am always angry, all the time at almost everything. (Indeed sometimes I fear I have even become dangerous for other people to be around.) The moral to the tale is that you just don't know. I had a lot of fun and a lot of good times on MDMA (and friends), but I paid the cost in terms of losing my peace of mind, of which I now have none.

To my detriment I may have access to a small but significant supply of this RC (obtained before I had convinced myself to quit and to try to find an alternative path), but have not yet tried it. The calculation is a stark one, do I risk what little remaining sanity I have left to gain some small and temporary relief from my current predicament? Or do I perhaps save it for a day when all hope truly is lost and I have been told I will die, so that I can pass from this world to the next in as little pain and discomfort as possible?

Beyond this I advise everyone who uses RC's to consider my story. You're messing with your brain. You only have one. If you screw it up, you may end up regretting it bitterly until the day you die, which may take a very, very long, slow and agonising time. If nothing else, this is at least something that is worthwhile for the readers here to consider.

There are other ways to live, other ways to be happy, other experiences to be had. I advise you to seek them out.

 

[Warped Reality]

01:00am Feeling very very good and extremely wasted, halved the other pill (quite tricky because I kept dropping it), ingested it (my RP thought she had taken hers but found it in her hand about 15mins later so took it then)

I love it when that happens xD

 

[Cface]

I had been deciding whether or not to try this substance seeing as how they once said 5-IAI was supposed to be comparable to MDMA on paper... i suppose this one might just be legit.

 

[blue_bomber]

Don't rate this chem at all personally, negatives far out weigh the good.

 

[pofacedhoe]

MDA/MDMA doesn't usually have bad comedowns when it's pure, at least, in my subjective experience

i'll second that- had 300+mg on saturday, today is tuesday and all i have is heightened emotionality in response to music

to me 6apb has some of the wierd hallucinations of lsd and is far more trippy as a headspace than mdma. i find myself getting lost in my head on it. it went amazingly well with mdma though i cannot remember what happened other than i felt great the next day

this shit needs to stay expensive and then it will be used occasionally and not end up being destructive like meph was

 

[poopstation]

i have vast experience with mda and mdma and limited experience with mde, all pure.

can someone who has experience with mda comment on 6-apb? if someone had easy access to mda/mdma/mde, would 6-apb be worth their time? or is it just a lesser, watered down mda?

 

[pofacedhoe]

i have vast experience with mda and mdma and limited experience with mde, all pure.

can someone who has experience with mda comment on 6-apb? if someone had easy access to mda/mdma/mde, would 6-apb be worth their time? or is it just a lesser, watered down mda?

in all honesty mda for me was only amazing 2 times, i have had it other times but it seemed lacklustre and not what i wanted. 6apb was great fun but you need to be in the right set and setting.

all these drugs get less fun the more often you do them.

mde was often boring and lacking

mdma is nearly always amazing