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5HTP - nightmares

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flipper007

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I am in the habbit of taking 75mg of 5-htp before bed for about 5 nights following a big weekend.

I dont find Pre - Loading makes much difference for me, But using it nigthly certainly speeds my recovery to feeling 100%, even after very heavy weekends.

I few times now I have experimented with 150mg to 200+ mg doses of 5-HTP before bed, I am now of the Belief it course me Terrible Nightmares that seem Very Real!!!

Also, when I wake up from them, feeling glad its all over, I am actually in another dream which eventually turns pare shaped aswell. strangely enough, I feel great the next day.

I have since stopped taking more then 75mg at a time and all is fine.

I am curious if any one else has experienced similar or have theories on this.
 
ive had similar experiences to yours.
mine would occur after a big weekend pilling saturday nite. i would generally get the nightmares on monday nite. this is all without taking 5-htp.

i found post-loading with 5-htp stopped them.

i think serotonin regulates sleeping patterns so i put them down to the lack of serotonin.

perhaps in your case its too much serotonin?
 
It's probably not from the 5HTP it's probably just some kind of withdrawals your getting. When i didn't take 5HTP ,if I have a big weekend usually wednesday night is dreaming night, or I'll wake up and can't get back to sleep.

Duno, maybe it is the 5HTP, but I haven't had a prob with it. Only give me an easy recovery nothing more than that.
 
5-HTP is great IMO, and I find that having 5-HTP before bed consistently produces extremely vivid dreams. Sometimes I take 5-HTP before bed specifically for this purpose, as occasionally I get a wonderful state of lucid dreaming, where I know I'm dreaming, but choose not to wake up.

BigTrancer :)
 
I woke up from one this morning. I find I'm usually too scattered to remember the nightmares so I don't find it that scary, but this morning I woke up convinced the giant bunny rabbit from Donnie Darko was in my room. Then I realised it was probably the HTP and the fact I saw the movie last Thursday.

Serotonin plays a role in regulating sleep and appetite so I don't think it's any huge surprise that it would cause some vivid dreams.

Love, Frank the bunny.
 
I'm with BT, I've found I get really vivid dreams as well - and on occasion they've been really vivid nightmares...not necessarily what you're after on a big weekend and you have to get up early on Monday morning for work!
 
"Why are you wearing that stupid human face?"

Anyways... Yes, I've often had intense dreams after taking 5HTP. As was pointed out serotonin has a lot to do with sleep, and not just it's regulation. Actually serotonin is 8understood to be very important in a whole range of human activites, but exactly how it does it is not well understood.

Off topic but related: I've noticed the inverse when I have gone to sleep after taking ibuprofen. I seem to always have very good dreams, and wake up happy. Anyone else noticed that?
 
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LOL Donnie darko can do that 2 u (thats one messed up bunny suit) and Movie lol

I am just asking proberly a stupied question but is 5HTP that Sam -e- stuff or somthing similar cause i would like to get some but am woundering if the sam e is the same stuff
Thanks people

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PEACE OUT=D =D
 
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I find when I'm taking 5HTP regulalry and having one before I sleep I have majorly intensified dreams sometimes to the point where I think what I dreamed is real. I've even tried to finish a dreamed conversation with someone the next day, boy did I look stupid :)

I enjoy the dreaming as after my stoner days and my wrecked sleeping pattern I thought I didn't dream anymore.
 
funny that. when my wife and i take 5-HTP before bedtime, we oftentimes SHARE very intense dreams, nightmares almost without exception. regardless of whether or not on a postload, and she does not use MDMA.
 
Would an abnormal serotonin level decrease the amount of deep sleep you go into? Aren't you supposed to dream when you are not in a deep sleep?

I work shift work so my sleep patterns are all over the place. The last week I was sleeping on off for a few hours in the early hours and after pilling on the weekend before I didn't know if I was awake or what. I'd be having a nightmare and wake up in my dream and think "thank fuck it was just a dream" then something else bad would start to happen and I'd dream I'd wake up again. I was having a nightmare about having a nightmare about having a...you get the idea. I don't know if I'm awake yet or if this is all still a part of the same dream but it's not bad anymore so why complain. I used to smoked pot all day so I've only been dreaming or remembering them again for about a year and they are weird.
 
Sam-e and 5-htp

Sam-e and 5-htp are 2 different vitamins. Although Sam-e is recommend when taking 5-htp because it is also a mood elavator.:)
 
^^indeed, serotonin is converted to melatonin, see here. I have had some extremely vivid and bizarre dreams on 5TP, the most memorable being the time I dreamt I was Paul van Dyk, and though I was still female, I was somehow PvD. It was all going swimmingly in the dream until I fucked up the set I was playing because I went to the toilet with my laptop and spent too much time on my own website telling my fans what a great set I was playing.:D
 
I've had those crazy HTP dreams, when I first tried HTP I spent an entire night lucid dreaming. It was so exhausting, I kept waking up bolt upright in bed every 1/2 hr or so. It seems to have tapered off now but I take mine in the morning and that seems to solve the problem pretty much.

I have also noticed recently it has been affecting my memory. I know that drug use is terrible for short term memory (so no lectures please) but mine has always been pretty OK. My usage hasn't changed at all but I've recently started a regular program of HTP and I'm gettin blankety blanks all over the place. The whole walking into a room and then wondering what you came in for thing, and having to really rack the brain for a while forcing myself to remember. I'm used to scattiness and mixing up letters in words after a night out but this is something new. Anyone else had this?
 
I should have asked earlier about this subject, thanks for the thread flipper, I was of the belief that this lucid dreaming was solely a problem I was having, due to getting older and stuffing up my sleeping patterns because of drug use (though I was a little bit suspicious about 5HTP)

Now that I know that others are having the same experiences it will be easier to track down the causes by changing patterns of usage of 5HTP et etc

My dreams tend not to be true nightmares but just nasty continuing little annoying dreams, whose sole purpose appears to be to deny me a satisfying deep sleep.

In fact the worst change that I appear to have suffered from my indulgences appears to be the stuffing up of my sleeping patterns, don’t often wake up having had an enjoyable nights sleep these days
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This is great to hear :D
I love to dream and just love vivid and especially lucid dreams.. so 5-htp makes them more available?.. that is super!!! :D:D:D

But asked for 5-htp in the vitamine-store.. they don't have it.. :(
 
hoptis said:
I woke up from one this morning. I find I'm usually too scattered to remember the nightmares so I don't find it that scary, but this morning I woke up convinced the giant bunny rabbit from Donnie Darko was in my room. Then I realised it was probably the HTP and the fact I saw the movie last Thursday.

Serotonin plays a role in regulating sleep and appetite so I don't think it's any huge surprise that it would cause some vivid dreams.

Love, Frank the bunny.
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Damn.. if i had him in my dream... i would get scared as hell i think.. 8)
 
I know the nightmare-about-a-nightmare-about-a-nightmare... deal too well! One of the scariest nights of my life was spent that way. 8( I think it's gotten better since I am aware that it can happen and can relax a bit more when it does, but oh boy, add a bit of sleep paralysis to the mix and it's one nasty trip!

With me, it's certainly 5-HTP related to an extent, so it's one of those things: can't sleep with it, can't sleep without it (or can I?). Does anyone have any experience with taking 5-HTP during the day? The recommendation is of course before bedtime, but I've never noticed it making me particularly sleepy (I just get a bit of an upset tummy about 45 min. after taking my 100mgs), so I might just try taking it in the morning, in the hope that this could reduce the lucid nightmare effect. Or has anyone had any negative experiences with this?
 
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