5-meo-MiPT heavy dose range (beyond common knowledge?)

[paigethylamine]

So I thought perhaps before I forget I may report than in addition to my interest for a high dose of 4-aco-DMT, I bit the bullet awhile ago and took oh.. 25MG of 5-meo-mipt which I did so based on tolerance.

I found that I had way overestimated my talerance and that the effects seem to have been potentiated because of a high concentration of THC which my talerance was very low to; lightweight status because I tend to avoid THC because the effects tend to make me paranoid. At any rate, the story in short was I took 25MG of mipt about an hour before the massive bong rip that I took.

This led to such an overwhelming feeling that I needed to silence the music, turn off all of the lights and lay and bed. I felt as though I was on the brink of a siezure; I had a crazy body rush and perhaps this was just the body load.
Closed eye and open eye visuals were everything I had hoped for; very vivid and in the silence I could hear electronic music in my head. This whole experience lasted for about an hour and 30 minutes before I finally became sane enough to bring myself to watch Resident Evil.

Some other considerations:

this was at night, and earlier that morning I had taken 10mg of 5-meo-mipt and shortly thereafter I took 25mg of 4-aco-dipt.

I was by no means sleepy as I have felt from oral DMT (ayahuasca) and 4-aco-DMT. Also I'm unsure if sleepiness has anything to do with these drugs as side effects.

I had read about some folks taking 20+ mg of 5-meo-MiPT, it would be interesting to hear about some experiences of people pushing this substance hard.

 

[cryptix420]

Careful fryin' your brain too hard man, don't wanna be another HPPD sufferer, treat that brain right while you still got it


Won't lie though I'm jealous of your drugs

 

[paigethylamine]

For sure, I've turned to discussing these sorts of things before hand not only to ensure my own safety but to help establish a better understanding of dose ranges for some of these substances. I personally appreciate intense and effective experiences, but I think safety is way more important. For example, I'm very VERY reluctant to even conisder datura despite my curiousity because of what I've come to understand about it.

It would be interesting to hear any experiences related to HPPD and this particular substance or similar substances if you are familiar with them and are comfortable sharing them.

I have to admit that it crossed my mind several times during my experience that I may want to go to the hospital, fortuneately I had somebody with me to help me make that decision if I had started having real siezures-- but I *think* the worst thing I was experiencing was a heavy body load and dissociation.

arguably the dissociative part I was feeling was not so bad, rather kind of cool.

 

[paigethylamine]

Oh and for what its worth, assuming you can find `4-aco-dmt vendors` via Google.. say may be a thread that describes how to use google to find vendors of these chemicals is in order as well :D at any rate, you too, can have amazing things that do cool stuff Just be careful, it can get out of hand really quick :D

Also, I don't mean this in any insulting manner, I could probably use some advice on things to search for when trying to find vendors via Google myself.

 

[interleukin]

I blacked out and was rendered catatonic on 12-14mg of this. It was way more intense than even 50mg of IM DPT for me. Thankfully you probably had a high tolerance before taking your 25mg dose. Don't fuck with this drug.
I'm curious to know what IV 5-meo-mipt feels like. Is the drug active by itself or is it metabolized into something sinister?

 

[paigethylamine]

I blacked out and was rendered catatonic on 12-14mg of this. It was way more intense than even 50mg of IM DPT for me. Thankfully you probably had a high tolerance before taking your 25mg dose. Don't fuck with this drug.
I'm curious to know what IV 5-meo-mipt feels like. Is the drug active by itself or is it metabolized into something sinister?

It also occured to me that what i may be hoping to accomplish with high doses could be done using some MAOIs with a much lower dose of 5-meo-mipt, any experiences? Also how long were you catatonic, were yoy admitted if I may ask? A curious thought about being in a catatonic state i believe i read some folks who were doing 3-meo-pcp or some such thing *might* have ended up in a catatonic state as well, did 5-meo-mipt feel a little dissociative for you?

 

[interleukin]

It also occured to me that what i may be hoping to accomplish with high doses could be done using some MAOIs with a much lower dose of 5-meo-mipt, any experiences? Also how long were you catatonic, were yoy admitted if I may ask? A curious thought about being in a catatonic state i believe i read some folks who were doing 3-meo-pcp or some such thing *might* have ended up in a catatonic state as well, did 5-meo-mipt feel a little dissociative for you?

It took about 30-45mins for the dose to kick in. I blacked out for about 45mins after that but do have a couple of memories. Anyway it was a clear overdose.
5-meo-mipt was dissasociative for me in the sense that I felt like a different person / animal / thing at that dose. Even at a very low dose of 2mg I used to feel a hint of that disassociation. In fact it reminds me of 5-meo-dmt. It may have something to do with its affinity for 5HT1A - http://img251.imageshack.us/img251/2341/16246005.jpg.
I have tried the drug again more recently though and found 10mg to be only a standard +3 trip without any disassociation. So either my sample degraded significantly within the past 6months or sensitivity to this drug depends on the persons current biochemical state.
MAOI + 5-meo-mipt sounds too risky. 5-meo-mipt is a potent peripheral vasoconstrictor and would definitely cause issues on overdose. If I were you I would stick to experimenting with 4-aco-dmt at higher doses as it is much much more forgiving.

 

[paigethylamine]

Yeah it doesn't sound like your experience was really pleasant.. I found it difficult to appreciate myself. It definitely had its moments but yeah based on how it made me feel and such, I'm not sure that I would open this can of worms too often. I'm also curious how did you determine that this substance is a vasoconstrictor? I'd like to read about what other tryptamines are vasoconstrictors as well.

 

[Survived Abortion]

I'm curious to know what IV 5-meo-mipt feels like. Is the drug active by itself or is it metabolized into something sinister?

There's nothing sinister about any psychoactive, but powerful psychoactives may reflect the sinister within you.

So I thought perhaps before I forget I may report than in addition to my interest for a high dose of 4-aco-DMT, I bit the bullet awhile ago and took oh.. 25MG of 5-meo-mipt which I did so based on tolerance.

I found that I had way overestimated my talerance and that the effects seem to have been potentiated because of a high concentration of THC which my talerance was very low to; lightweight status because I tend to avoid THC because the effects tend to make me paranoid. At any rate, the story in short was I took 25MG of mipt about an hour before the massive bong rip that I took.

This led to such an overwhelming feeling that I needed to silence the music, turn off all of the lights and lay and bed. I felt as though I was on the brink of a siezure; I had a crazy body rush and perhaps this was just the body load.

A 'spiritual orgasm' can easily be mistaken for a feeling that your about to have a seizure. Sometimes psychedelics propel you into a realm so vibrationally blissfull it can feel like you are about to go over the edge. Considering you took a huge bong-rip of THC (which causes involuntary muscle spasms by itself, and a very 'fizzy' headspace in synergy with serotonergic psychedelics), I would suppose that you were just tripping balls.

5-meo-mipt is a potent peripheral vasoconstrictor and would definitely cause issues on overdose.

Can you benevolently provide any reference to this? I would be interested to see how it compares to other tryptamines in that regard, because I have never found it to cause any vascular problems in myself, or close aquaintances. I have certainly found LSA to be vasoconstrictive to a degree, as well as LSD (sometimes).

I have taken 5-meo-mipt in doses exceeding 75mg, into the 100mg ballpark. Not taken all at once, but staggered in 25mg increments over a 2-3 hour period. Two friends did the same, and we all had unbelievably incredibly outrageously super-orgazmo psychedelic bath. It was ridiculous really.

In the 10mg range it is still very nice, subtle and a lovely way to see nature, things, phenomenon from a shifted perspective. Very tryptamine, very alien.

From my own experiences, and those of close friends and aquaintences, it seems that moxy has a very wide dosage window, allowing exploration on different levels at diffrent settings. In fact, I believe that this remarkable compound produces a surface level alteration far more dependent upon setting than many other compounds I have explored.

 

[drugs]

I have dosed it at 30mg. It gets fairly intense at this level, both mentally and visually. Watch out for body tremors.

A friend of mine IVed somewhere between 10-15mg. He described the effects as very intense, apparently reaching peak within 2 minutes. Effects started fading after 15 minutes and almost gone by 30 minutes. Desire to redose was reported to be quite strong.

 

[Emericana]

One of the craziest nights of my life involved a high dose of this compound.

Was 4 years ago or so when I was in college.

I do not remember the exact dose of it but it was around 30mg or so? It was also mostly snorted. The reason I believe it was around 30 mg is because I had a bunch of 6mg capsules weighed out on a real good mg scale and I believe I did 5 of them... maybe even 6 so it could have been 35mg.

Had a party at my apartment. Huge college kegger. Was shithoused.

Went up in a room with a girl and snorted adderall together (I know disgusting right)... I dont remember how many mg of adderall but prob around 35-40mg snorted.

Halfway through the adderall session I remembered I had some of this stuff. Was so drunk and spun out that me and this chick started cutting the lines of adderall with 5-meo-mipt...

We also passed it between our mouths by kissing and stuff.

Blacked out for a few hours... came too at Dennys with a group of people. Dont know how I got there ( I did not drive). Was looking at my food and it was going everywhere. I was hallucinating hardcore.

Woke up the next morning in my neighbors house (didnt even make it home lol)....

Had no idea where I was or how I got there but was tripping fucking hardcore. Insane OEV's my mind was flying high.

I did not want to be tripping since it was the next morining still and I believed I had consumed the dose hours on end ago... didnt really remember...

Went to my roomate who had some percocets... took 3 or them (15mg oxycodone)... and then the trip ended once the opiates kicked in.