3rd consecutive weekend of tripping, too often?

[Jesusgreen]

You say you've done this since you first started taking psychedelics Aetherius Rimor, have you tried taking a several month or longer break since then?

I think it would take a lot of tripping to make it stop feeling good and therapeutic, but when you treat it with respect and don't just do it all the time, even low doses experiences are always +++ bordering ++++ and spiritually healing imo

I think it's one of the reasons why you'll often see psychedelic users who've used for many years actually prefer lower doses - not because they're wary or afraid of high doses, but simply because they treat these tools with such high respect that the experience can bring them so much even when it's "mild".

 

[\/apor]

well, ive been dosing pretty close together mainly because A: I like it, and B: because i want to get a feel of the effects before introducing a close friend to it. The last thing i want her to do is have a super intense trip and get too overwhelmed, so it's for harm reduction, but after last night im definitely going to slow down to once a month or 3 weeks at least, I thought i knew it from the first couple trips, toss a little alcohol in and bam, your flying through the universe

also, http://ohhelll.tumblr.com/ for some of the best trip music ever, my friend told me to not even unrar it until i dosed, 3 mixes and I wont listen to it sober, ever.

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

You say you've done this since you first started taking psychedelics Aetherius Rimor, have you tried taking a several month or longer break since then?

Yeah, I had about a 2 month break between shrooms and acid where I didn't do anything. DMT I did about 6 times in the course of 2 months, and stopped because I haven't been ready or needed that experience yet. Had some left, ready to be smoked for months before throwing it out for safety purposes.

I think it would take a lot of tripping to make it stop feeling good and therapeutic, but when you treat it with respect and don't just do it all the time, even low doses experiences are always +++ bordering ++++ and spiritually healing imo

When I said make me feel normal, I mean actually feel alive and enjoy being so. Daily life is so trivial and boring. I've never been able to get more than a single + from low doses though. 1 hit of decent acid (most people trying from same batch -really- feel it) or up to 1 gram of shrooms have always had a pretty imperceptible timeline for me, but the effects were obvious. Just... an unusual happiness and excitement for life. Pretty sure I have a natural tolerance of sorts.

I think it's one of the reasons why you'll often see psychedelic users who've used for many years actually prefer lower doses - not because they're wary or afraid of high doses, but simply because they treat these tools with such high respect that the experience can bring them so much even when it's "mild".

I definitely agree with this. I tried 8mg of 2C-E before, and it made me extremely happy, but pretty minimal visuals or mental effects (friend was bouncing all over). Another day I tried 30mg by mistake (guy didn't mention to only take half until after we took it), and that was far more intense than I'd planned for. However I still ended up being capable of babysitting the person I was with who did the same amount, and helping them keep themselves together.

I can handle it, it's absolutely amazing at high doses... but it's just not necessary for me to get what I want out of it. There are times and places for those experiences, otherwise it just feels like wasting a day and wasting the product.

 

[Jesusgreen]

is this to say you dose dissociatives or DMT more or less regularly?

i have to echo everyone else in saying you will know if its too much, i got a pretty sick flash back while i was driving a week or two ago that let me know i need to chill for about a month or so.

I dose dissociatives sporadically but due to the way the tolerance works I don't need to leave such a long break between experiences. I do not find them as spiritually deep as psychedelics, more of a recreational drug, and so I treat them more like alcohol or cannabis, albeit using them far less frequently.

DMT I recently was given 200mg for the first time, of which I've smoked 150mg in the past two and a half weeks, because unlike most psychedelics, due to its short duration, after smoked DMT, tolerance is pretty much baseline after an hour, vs the usual 2 weeks minimum for fully baseline after any other trip. Given the nature of the experience and the short duration, and my experiences being +++s rather than breakthrough ++++s, I do not need so much time to integrate the experience as I would with other psychedelics I suspect once I hit a ++++, even with a 10 minute duration, I will be without a desire to experience it again for quite some time, simply reaping the rewards :D

When I said make me feel normal, I mean actually feel alive and enjoy being so. Daily life is so trivial and boring.

This is what I was referring to though. With a respectful attitude to psychedelics, I have gained insights that completely dispelled any such thoughts I had (which I used to have a lot of, believe me, and not surprisingly, those too were some of my reasons for tripping often at first!) - life is not at all trivial or boring, it is the most beautiful stunning experience, and I am always at awe at how expansive and amazing it is. I still use the phrase "I'm bored", but to me that now means "Damn, I have so many great things I could be doing, how can I choose which?!" to which I immediately realise the answer is "Any!" and get doing it :D

The thing is, most drugs leave this short afterglow in which things feel better, and so many people assume this is the same for all drugs "If I do not take it again, I shall lose this wonderful feeling!", until one day comes a day when you realise the appreciation for life psychedelics give you was always there, just buried away, and once it has truly resurfaced, it's impossible to bury a second time

The reason I spend time moderating here is because psychedelics truly changed my life in wondrous ways, ways so amazing that if I were to thank the earth and sky all day for the rest of my life it would never be enough. That didn't come from all my repeated consecutive experiences in short periods of time - they were fun, and certainly enlightening, but it was when I spent time living life fully, and using psychedelics as a sort of "self-appraisal" session at the end of each of these periods, is when the real magic was found :D

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

When I said make me feel normal, I mean actually feel alive and enjoy being so. Daily life is so trivial and boring.
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At the risk of sounding extremely hypocritical, try finding some activities and stuff to do to make life meaningful and interesting. And remember to be here now. It just worries me when I see people using psychs as an existential bandaid (not as much as when they do it with dissociatives, though).

 

[Aetherius Rimor]

They've completely changed my outlook in an extremely positive manner for sure. Mood swings towards depression just seem to be eliminated completely from a weekly trip for me though. My periods of abstinence start to encounter random bouts of depression just like before. Even if I no longer have the "everything is pointless" mentality during them, they still make it very difficult to find the energy to do the countless things I want to do.

Edit: Saw "Never Knows Best"'s response, I honestly have the opinion in self-analysis that I'm probably using them as a form of self-medication instead of the original bi-polar medication I took years ago, and quit years before I ever even tried drugs. They dulled my thoughts/emotions too strongly, and it was worth dealing with the swings to keep those feelings. Psychedelics to me, do what that original drug cocktail used to (was on Risperdal/Depakote/Zoloft for about 3 years) in keeping me more "stable", but without the 'dulling' sensations. After years of mood swings... seeing them disappear without the side effects... and also the complete changes in realization about how amazing the universe is, is why I've come to love/respect them as I have so far.

 

[Thorns Have Roses]

Ah, so it's a very very useful bandaid for the time being. As far as drugs to self-medicate with go, you can do much worse than this I suppose.

 

[fly-]

From personal experience, after 2,5 months tripping every weekend at least one time, there was a crash in my last trip, almost for sure the last 2 train wrecks (last 2 trips) are related with this abuse. I must confess its easy to fall into a routine of psychedelic stimulation, and illusory enlightenment via trying new psychedelic chemicals....

 

[Bkhaze]

Normally I drop acid every few weeks/once a month. After a month of taking acid every weekend I didn't really notice much tolerance. I was more used to the effects and able to handle the experience easier, but I did not notice a decrease of the effects intesnisty. What did bother me was the slight loss of novelty. It has been a month since I last tripped and I am happy I've waited, I beleive my next trip will be more enjoyable because of the time off.