Psychestim
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Preface:
3-MeO-PCsBu (N-(butan-2-yl)-1-(3-methoxyphenyl)cyclohexan-1-amine) is an extremely novel arylcyclohexylamine that has an unusual substitution on the nitrogen atom, namely a sec-butyl group. This introduces a stereocenter into the molecule so a resolution of the isomers could yield an R- and S-enantiomer which could have noticeably different pharmacokinetic/-dynamic properties which might be worth exploring separately. That having said my sample is racemic meaning both enantiomers are present in equal amounts.
At this point, I am probably the second person to have ever tried this compound and before I even go into this report I want to state that this substance is arguably a bit more dangerous than the available dissociatives on the market. I have sampled many arylcyclohexylamines but this one takes the cake for being the most manic, stimulating while being the least physically inebriating of them all. I am sure that my general mindset greatly influenced the trip, but please, if you ever get your hands on this make sure not to take it in public and be very responsible with your doses. If you‘ve done stupid shit on PCE/PCP analogs then stay away from this one.
Background information:
- sex: male
- age: 26
- weight: 78 kg
- setting: Airbnb, alone
- set: I am in a phase of personal growth, change, uncertainty and excitement. A lot of personal stuff is happening in my life at the moment and my emotional state has been wavering the last few weeks. Today, I feel good though and general boredom on a rainy day in a foreign country has sparked my interest in trying out a new dissociative.
- tolerance: I have dabbled with other dissociatives the last couple days, incl. PCP, PCiPr and 3-Me-PCiPr. I only took moderate amounts of these compounds though and had a few months before that where I abstained from all dissociatives. My last dose before this trial happened three days ago on 15mg PCiPr, which was a rich, liberating and personal experience. The night before, I took 7mg of 7-OH-Mitragynine and vaporized some Δ9-THC.
I received a 15mg capsule by another psychonaut friend who has tried and verified the authenticity of said compound. Their experience is limited to a handful of trials as well but they gave me 15mg thinking it would be enough for a decent experience. They remarked that this compound is more potent than 3-MeO-PCE. Considering that the person who gave it to me has a dissociative tolerance I decided to start small and work myself up.
3-MeO-PCsBu HCl (5mg+5mg, insufflated) / Trip Report:
T:00:00:
Open the capsule and dump the crystalline powder onto a paper plate. I finely crush it with a debit card and prepare 3 small piles that look similar in size. I roll up a paper straw and sniff one of the small piles, equating to about 5-6mg. It stings quite a bit, much worse than unsubstituted PCiPr which doesn‘t burn at all but way less than something like 3-Me-PCPy.
T:00:40:
I feel a slight mood boost and I‘m getting a bit restless but the effects are still mild and I‘m starting to become impatient so I snort another pile. The second insufflation hurts even more, might not go for the third.
T:00:55:
This is ramping up quite fast, I am starting to feel very stimulated. Literally no dissociation can be felt so far. Normally my limbs would feel cold and numb by now or I would experience at least some coordination issues but there is none of that. I am really enjoying this.
T:01:15:
This stuff is incredible, I can already see this becoming a favorite of mine. My thoughts are racing and I‘m filled with self-love and confidence. I can see that this could get out of hand easily if one were to take it frequently and in higher doses. Could quite possibly activate god-like delusions and completely derail your life. Treat with caution.
T:01:30:
I am home alone sitting on the couch listening to rap music casually envisioning narcissistic scenarios about money, power and lust. Normally the dissociation of other stimulating dissociatives makes it a bit harder to think clearly but this feels very authentic which is fascinating but intimidating at the same time.
02:00:
Music changes seemed to influence the high quite a bit but this still feels like it could lead to trouble more easily than other ACH‘s. I feel like a superstar and I am convinced I can reach anything that I want in life. A very empowering but headstrong feeling. Every hedonistic desire I have clashes with my conscience and my down-to-earth values. A very strange and divided feeling, but the ego-driven euphoria far outweighs the negative outcomes in my head. You could call it guilty pleasure. I dwell on emotional manipulation even though there is no real life example of this in my life that I can think of. Is this the revealed perspective of a pathological Machiavellist or an exaggerated, delusional mindset of a person on drugs. We‘ll find out once I‘m sober, I guess.
T:02:30:
The urge to redose is there but I am worried about it so I refrain from using the rest. The stimulation is strong and I am unsure what to make of the experience. I am even conflicted about reporting on this substance because I‘m not sure if it‘ll do more good than bad, or maybe it‘s all in my head and no one really cares. My mind is fleet, it seems organized but I‘m still unsure whether I can believe any of it. I guess this is what you could call mentally dissociated. Physically I am absolutely unaltered, it’s completely transparent.
T:03:00:
My thoughts are slowing down and my body is becoming more relaxed. I can put trust into my thoughts again and I am returning to my normal self. The ride is not over but the mania has toned down significantly. I kind of feel pretty neutral now which is funny when you consider the absurdity of it all just half an hour ago. Well, I‘m not too surprised, I‘ve experienced mania on a few occasions by now.
T:05:00:
Watched a few YT videos and reflected on the experience a bit. Considering the circumstances and changes in my life I am not really surprised why the trip developed in such a contradictory, almost bipolar fashion. Maybe I should abstain from such substances until I feel a bit more grounded. I guess that‘s the takeaway for now.
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Conclusion:
This is a very fascinating substance, but surely nothing to take lightly. I guess it‘s evident from my report that necessary precautions should be taken to use this one safely. It‘s funny how real everything feels when you‘re engulfed in the experience and how everything loses its meaning once you come down. These stimulating dissociatives never seize to amaze me. As for comparisons, this one surpasses the mania of 3-MeO-PCP for me and doesn‘t come with physical dissociation. 3-MeO-PCE is a more lovely kind of mania that doesn’t feel as egotistical and godly, if that makes sense. This one surely can be a real troublemaker, quite possibly the most accurate drug to mimic schizophrenia in overtly high doses. Funnily enough, I am certainly tempted to try it again especially through other ROA‘s. Other analogs like PCsBu, 3-Me-PCsBu, 3-MeS-PCsBu, 3-F-PCsBU, 3-Cl-PCsBu, 3,4-MD-PCsBu, and so on could be fruitful follow-ups to further investigate the sec-butyl substitution and to deepen the knowledge about the SAR of arylcyclohexylamines. The 2‘-Oxo substitution would introduce another stereocenter so there would be 4 diastereomers that could lead to a variety of different stereoisomeric mixtures so things will get quite messy from here on.
Stay safe my fellow researchers! It‘s been a minute since I wrote a report, but for old sakes I had to write one for this novelty.
Psychestim
3-MeO-PCsBu (N-(butan-2-yl)-1-(3-methoxyphenyl)cyclohexan-1-amine) is an extremely novel arylcyclohexylamine that has an unusual substitution on the nitrogen atom, namely a sec-butyl group. This introduces a stereocenter into the molecule so a resolution of the isomers could yield an R- and S-enantiomer which could have noticeably different pharmacokinetic/-dynamic properties which might be worth exploring separately. That having said my sample is racemic meaning both enantiomers are present in equal amounts.
At this point, I am probably the second person to have ever tried this compound and before I even go into this report I want to state that this substance is arguably a bit more dangerous than the available dissociatives on the market. I have sampled many arylcyclohexylamines but this one takes the cake for being the most manic, stimulating while being the least physically inebriating of them all. I am sure that my general mindset greatly influenced the trip, but please, if you ever get your hands on this make sure not to take it in public and be very responsible with your doses. If you‘ve done stupid shit on PCE/PCP analogs then stay away from this one.
Background information:
- sex: male
- age: 26
- weight: 78 kg
- setting: Airbnb, alone
- set: I am in a phase of personal growth, change, uncertainty and excitement. A lot of personal stuff is happening in my life at the moment and my emotional state has been wavering the last few weeks. Today, I feel good though and general boredom on a rainy day in a foreign country has sparked my interest in trying out a new dissociative.
- tolerance: I have dabbled with other dissociatives the last couple days, incl. PCP, PCiPr and 3-Me-PCiPr. I only took moderate amounts of these compounds though and had a few months before that where I abstained from all dissociatives. My last dose before this trial happened three days ago on 15mg PCiPr, which was a rich, liberating and personal experience. The night before, I took 7mg of 7-OH-Mitragynine and vaporized some Δ9-THC.
I received a 15mg capsule by another psychonaut friend who has tried and verified the authenticity of said compound. Their experience is limited to a handful of trials as well but they gave me 15mg thinking it would be enough for a decent experience. They remarked that this compound is more potent than 3-MeO-PCE. Considering that the person who gave it to me has a dissociative tolerance I decided to start small and work myself up.
3-MeO-PCsBu HCl (5mg+5mg, insufflated) / Trip Report:
T:00:00:
Open the capsule and dump the crystalline powder onto a paper plate. I finely crush it with a debit card and prepare 3 small piles that look similar in size. I roll up a paper straw and sniff one of the small piles, equating to about 5-6mg. It stings quite a bit, much worse than unsubstituted PCiPr which doesn‘t burn at all but way less than something like 3-Me-PCPy.
T:00:40:
I feel a slight mood boost and I‘m getting a bit restless but the effects are still mild and I‘m starting to become impatient so I snort another pile. The second insufflation hurts even more, might not go for the third.
T:00:55:
This is ramping up quite fast, I am starting to feel very stimulated. Literally no dissociation can be felt so far. Normally my limbs would feel cold and numb by now or I would experience at least some coordination issues but there is none of that. I am really enjoying this.
T:01:15:
This stuff is incredible, I can already see this becoming a favorite of mine. My thoughts are racing and I‘m filled with self-love and confidence. I can see that this could get out of hand easily if one were to take it frequently and in higher doses. Could quite possibly activate god-like delusions and completely derail your life. Treat with caution.
T:01:30:
I am home alone sitting on the couch listening to rap music casually envisioning narcissistic scenarios about money, power and lust. Normally the dissociation of other stimulating dissociatives makes it a bit harder to think clearly but this feels very authentic which is fascinating but intimidating at the same time.
02:00:
Music changes seemed to influence the high quite a bit but this still feels like it could lead to trouble more easily than other ACH‘s. I feel like a superstar and I am convinced I can reach anything that I want in life. A very empowering but headstrong feeling. Every hedonistic desire I have clashes with my conscience and my down-to-earth values. A very strange and divided feeling, but the ego-driven euphoria far outweighs the negative outcomes in my head. You could call it guilty pleasure. I dwell on emotional manipulation even though there is no real life example of this in my life that I can think of. Is this the revealed perspective of a pathological Machiavellist or an exaggerated, delusional mindset of a person on drugs. We‘ll find out once I‘m sober, I guess.
T:02:30:
The urge to redose is there but I am worried about it so I refrain from using the rest. The stimulation is strong and I am unsure what to make of the experience. I am even conflicted about reporting on this substance because I‘m not sure if it‘ll do more good than bad, or maybe it‘s all in my head and no one really cares. My mind is fleet, it seems organized but I‘m still unsure whether I can believe any of it. I guess this is what you could call mentally dissociated. Physically I am absolutely unaltered, it’s completely transparent.
T:03:00:
My thoughts are slowing down and my body is becoming more relaxed. I can put trust into my thoughts again and I am returning to my normal self. The ride is not over but the mania has toned down significantly. I kind of feel pretty neutral now which is funny when you consider the absurdity of it all just half an hour ago. Well, I‘m not too surprised, I‘ve experienced mania on a few occasions by now.
T:05:00:
Watched a few YT videos and reflected on the experience a bit. Considering the circumstances and changes in my life I am not really surprised why the trip developed in such a contradictory, almost bipolar fashion. Maybe I should abstain from such substances until I feel a bit more grounded. I guess that‘s the takeaway for now.
—————————————————————————
Conclusion:
This is a very fascinating substance, but surely nothing to take lightly. I guess it‘s evident from my report that necessary precautions should be taken to use this one safely. It‘s funny how real everything feels when you‘re engulfed in the experience and how everything loses its meaning once you come down. These stimulating dissociatives never seize to amaze me. As for comparisons, this one surpasses the mania of 3-MeO-PCP for me and doesn‘t come with physical dissociation. 3-MeO-PCE is a more lovely kind of mania that doesn’t feel as egotistical and godly, if that makes sense. This one surely can be a real troublemaker, quite possibly the most accurate drug to mimic schizophrenia in overtly high doses. Funnily enough, I am certainly tempted to try it again especially through other ROA‘s. Other analogs like PCsBu, 3-Me-PCsBu, 3-MeS-PCsBu, 3-F-PCsBU, 3-Cl-PCsBu, 3,4-MD-PCsBu, and so on could be fruitful follow-ups to further investigate the sec-butyl substitution and to deepen the knowledge about the SAR of arylcyclohexylamines. The 2‘-Oxo substitution would introduce another stereocenter so there would be 4 diastereomers that could lead to a variety of different stereoisomeric mixtures so things will get quite messy from here on.
Stay safe my fellow researchers! It‘s been a minute since I wrote a report, but for old sakes I had to write one for this novelty.
Psychestim
