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(2C-P/Various) -(2CP First Time) - Neural Autoclave Wiped my Senses Clean

Thou

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10:25PM. 3/16/12. Ingested approximately 5-8 mg 2c-p. Other drugs in the system include 200ug of buprenorphine for nerves, 8 hours previous was a spiritual breakthrough culminated by using approx 100mg of methoxetamine over a 3 hour period. The afterglow was emotionally profound and led to the courage driven action I've just made. The little buggers in the tract now, absorption will be noted as the experience progresses. I've quite a bit of experience with the 2c family but this one is new territory. One small step.

10:47 Light stomach rumblings a bit of a placebo affect. Trying to navigate this stupid relay chat to be gawked at in a very baroque and vulnerable manner. There's flagellates spouting bullshit out my window. Something about the cold, it's 55 degrees here. Beautiful. These people are out of their goddamn minds.

10:55 Nothing really happening. I'm getting impatient, which seems antonymous to the whole point of the goddamned experiment. I need ATTENTION.
Be still and know, let the ancient mescaline exoskeleton of the shit creep through your bowels and fly up like a prankster faerie flying up one of those hammer con's out of early twentieth century carnival gatherings. Step right up, up... up. Tempted to use the methoxetamine but I refrain.
Listening to Burroughs. "Junk takes everything and gives nothing except junk sickness." The same can be said for any sustainable commodity the body requires. Air, fire, temperature, sunlight. We're born encapsulated into a habit we can't possibly sustain, and every year it gets harder, tolerance builds, supplies diminish, greedy fat aristocrats drooling cigar slime filth grabbing every extra particle. No booze tonight, scant on klonopin as I'm down to .5 a day. Far below my normal 3mg, but I always blow my stash that first week and leave just enough to remain comfortable for a period of 3 weeks it seems. Horrible habit I've never been able to remedy, but perhaps it's kept my tolerance more manageable than the steady medicine imbiber who takes his milligram morning, noon, and night, on the dot. Better to give the nervous system a few variables, keep the cocksucker on his toes.

11:05 Terrence on the dial now, talking about nematodey or some such silliness. I love his use of language, even though he's off his rocker. I'd be lying if I said I had anything on him, however. I'm feeling talkative but barely off baseline. It's buildling to a calm crescendo and no body or mental discomfort noted. Think I'll smoke a cigarette for lack of something more interesting to hold my attention at the moment. I'll probably cut this down a bit as it's more of a vague rant stream of consciousness kind of gig, but maybe I'll leave it. I prefer that style of prose and if I can leave it intact and unedited, all the better. Should time stop moving? Interesting question posed. Where it came from I'm unaware, but it can be taken in many fashions and would exhaust me at this time to fully extrapolate and cut it apart with my fun analytical scalpel. Wears a black suit and a a black stetson.

"Tio Mate is an old assasin with twelve dear on his gun."


PM11:35 That's it. I can't wait any longer. 10mg MXE lets hope this gets the show on the road. No looking back now. Feeling subtle effects almost instantaneously. Hard to define, check back in after I ponder the absurdity of Steven Colbert interviewing "Kermit" the frog speaking on the southern primaries. In summation: Frogs don't know Jack about Politics.



AM12:09 This is slow as fuck coming up. I know I dosed low and let it be known that I didn't use a scale, merely divided 50mg of powder 8 ways. I figure about 5-10mg. Out of all the fucking mg scales I've owned in my life I should really just bite the bullet and buy a good one so I'll actually hang on to the thing. Roughly 15mg more mxe insufflated we'll see if this precipitates some visuals. Seems to help very subtle nature in these small doses. I'm completely content without anxiety fear or worry, not antsy, merely dreamily and patiently waiting for something profound to come into view.

12:31 Why are these compounds so slow on the comeup? I could forsee quite a bit of calamady if these materials made there way into uneducated hands. Like the old "STP" scare; giant doses of DOM passed off as acid. Some rogue chemical asshole found Shulgins's publication and saw a quick dollar, with plenty of freaks wondering "when the fuck is this shit going to end, its been 3 fucking days." etc.

1:14 Mother of twisted jesus, this thing is finally taking shape. It seems I am at an impasse. 1:21 I'm at a loss for words. Tick. Tock. What is that noise? Is that metronome apart of me? Does the goddamnded computer have a heart? Silence. Who's heart is that? It CERTAINLY isn't MINE.


2:35 Wonderfully hedonistic little bugger we've got here, fairly neutral. Wonderful mescaline energy buzzing circuits at the base of my spine, nothing scary beyond the veil, almost emotionally flat, gettting stuck in the energy of a thousand suns. The impasse I felt before was an interest suggestion of foreshadowing that seems concurrent with The problem.

2:45 Fuck This. It's time to get serious, bash the fucker head on with the methoxetamine. I'm going to find your fucking center you emotionless little cunt. 25mginsufflated.

3:17 .... Peaking Hard. See you in an eternity. :)

PM12:30 Zoned out for the next ten hours enjoyed it up until a point, mxe was regularly used to add an emotional character to the trip. This thing just doesn't end! It's a grand 2 carbon phenethylamine, pretty forgiving but far too long-lived for my tastes. If I had to do this again I'd need at least 10mg of klonopin for back up to go to sleep. I've just taken 1mg of suboxone with little to no tolerence as well as 1.5mg klonopin, 60mg benadryl around 2 hours later. Called into work as I saw no sign of this quitting.


3:00PM finally drifted off to sleep after a few hours of negative repressed emotions surfaced which I then used breathing meditation (guided by audio of Thich Nhat Hahn which I highly reccomend) to conquer and dismiss, hopefully not to resurface in later trials. The MXE was essential for this experiment, I would have been bored do death for the last 6 hours.
In summation this is nothing superior to the other 2c's, mild and slow and gradual but just doesn't fucking end! It lasts too goddamn long. It has however rekindled my interest in the phenethylamine derivatives and I believe 2c-c is next on my list. No negative effects noted, the total combination of drugs consumed over a period of 12 hours included: 6-8mg 2c-P (maybe ten, but no more), 60mg of methoxetamine at LEAST, done in small increments after the 3 hour mark for then next 9 hours. 1mg suboxone, 1.5mg klonopin to try and get some sleep (I have a 3mg a day klonopin habit, but typically I've been taking .25 - .5mg a day for the last week with moderate discomfort but made functional with 1600mg neurontin per day in doses of 200mg spaced out an hour each. Benadryl was the last thing I took. Awoke 24 hours later feeling exhausted, took my daily .25mg klonopin with my 200mg neurontin, went to work and after an hour I felt in good spirits and the day went by fairly well. I'm writing this summary now at 10:38 3/16/12, over 24 hours later.
 
Nice.. you finally did 2cp. It's my favorite 2c-x. I'll give this a read now.

10:47There's flagellates spouting bullshit out my window. Something about the cold, it's 55 degrees here. Beautiful. These people are out of their goddamn minds.
Ha, nice.

Junk takes everything and gives nothing except junk sickness."[/I] The same can be said for any sustainable commodity the body requires. Air, fire, temperature, sunlight.
Well put.. but then going to what you said about a kpin habit, you're contradicting yourself. I agree with the former part more so, because it's practical instead of cynical, while still cynical, but not negative so to say.


Better to give the nervous system a few variables, keep the cocksucker on his toes.
-Indeed

I'm glad you acknowledge that Mckenna is a crackpot, but entertaining none the less.

Wonderfully hedonistic little bugger we've got here, fairly neutral. Wonderful mescaline energy buzzing circuits at the base of my spine, nothing scary beyond the veil, almost emotionally flat
^Totally. I think that's more the 2C-P than the MXE too. MXE can be that, but it ultimately so uplifting for me.

This thing just doesn't end! It's a grand 2 carbon phenethylamine, pretty forgiving but far too long-lived for my tastes. If I had to do this again I'd need at least 10mg of klonopin for back up to go to sleep.
This is why when I did it (I ate 12mg my first time.. ya.. and I was still comming down off 6mg insuffalated DOC and no sleep).. I went to the boardwalk off the beach and drank ALL DAY with the homeless. I would have probably lost it if I wasn't with such cool people.
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I disagree, but I know what you're saying. I guess you wanted something more strait up visual and ego dissolving? 2C-C is more like a "treat" than a mind blower, though dose can certainly be increased. 2C-C is actually probably my favorite 2C-X, but I've only done 2C-P twice. 2C-C is way more mild in all respects, especially duration, but I actually found it much more visual than 2C-P. A lot more visual (mostly CEVs, but deep), without wandering far off in your thought process at all.

You should do it on it's own without MXE next time, and up the dose, but def have some kpins and booze stocked for the come down, and an indica strain. This will aid in the ansy "boredom" further on after the peak.

I got really crystalized OEV visuals on it. The whole sky at the beach was shattered and falling apart.

I like the post peak nature of it personally though, but then again I used to abused amphetamines a lot. It was like tripping hard without tripping if that makes sense. Every now and then (post peak), I'd say to myself out of nowhere, "Um ya dude, you are fucking fried right now."

You would really "enjoy" DMT. It puts MXE to shame, but MXE is def my fav for now, but they're kind of similar to me. MXE works so well for opioid withdrawals btw. I used it to get off heroin and it worked like a charm. I infact haven't yet to relapse back on smack since I tried MXE.. over 4 months now, and I was doing over 2 grams a day.

DMT (smoked) doesn't amp you, make you ansy or any of that, and it doesn't last hours, and it's the deepest you can go.... infinte blast-off. It makes all other psychedelics seem like sobriety or something. I meantion MXE in this, because that shit is so out there in the M-hole,the visuals are even similar to me, but definitely very toned down.

This just gave me a great idea... Smoking some fat hits of salvia while peaking on MXE
 
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I'm well versed in DMT it's my absolute favorite molecule. Thanks for the read dex, I know it was a little jangled and messy.

I've just insufflated maybe 1mg of 2c-p and its brought on the most delightful state, very calm and loving. I feel like I could do this forever. I feel very at home, no crazy visuals, just subthreshold delightful calm introspection. This is like ecstacy without all the fake feelings, this is REAL.

Lovely thing, I'll report further after a few hours of meditation. :)
 
Intranasal 2c-p. Ya provide us with some follow-up on that. I would like to know if the come up was faster, possibly smoother, if the duration decreased at all (sometimes wanted of course), and if the potency was increased; and whether or not the potency increase, how so (subjectively speaking)?
 
So far it's much preferred. I've taken a total of 3mg at seperate intervals in the past four hours insufflated after all of the MXE was out of my system. It's calm, peaceful, not pushy, no crazy visuals just mild undulating and wall breathing but very slight.

I took a walk before and was utterly peaceful listening to buddhist stuff on my phone with earphones in, and a fucking cop slowed down and asked me if I was "allright." I looked at him with a bemused look, very content and assured, "Of course I'm allright, I'm taking a walk it's beautiful outside. How are you?" "Oh fine." And the fucking asshole drove off.

What kind of insane world do we live in where a man can't walk around with a head full of lightning and not bothering a soul at 2 in the morning and not be bothered by some asshole with a burr haircut and a shiny stupid expensive car.

"Gee officer, thank god you came by, I was just about to reach enlightenment... Good thing you came by in the nick of time and snapped me back to reality. Who knows I might have hurt myself."

Ye gods. It was the funniest and briefest excursion I've had with a fucking cop ever. I can't stop laughing I'm all giggles and it's not the drug... It's the utter farcical absurdity of the whole goddamn thing.

Reminded me of the time Bob Dylan was walking around some neighborhood sober as a newborn baby at odd hours and some asshole called the cops on him. The reason I can't stop laughing is because if I do I'll start on some vicious hate-filled rage about fascism and class warfare, and we can't have that. Life is to short to get pissed off about these ludicrous hypocritical realities.

I just hope my lady friend will be awake enough to have a nice breakfast with me. I just need a pair of loving arms and a cozy bed and I'll be right at home.

This is turning into blog material. So I'll end it there.

I'll keep you guys posted on how it turns out in the end.


I've never gotten so high for so little money before, it really is astounding.
 
He was just doing his job. I agree, but think about it their way. He as no idea who you are, and you could have been on the prowl in all sorts of bad ways. Just act natural and no harm is done by either party. Probably thought you were out trying to burglerize or vandalize.

So was the duration shorter and come up faster?
 
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"Better to give the nervous system a few variables, keep the cocksucker on his toes."

Your use of language throughout this trip report was highly entertaining. Good writer.
 
Thanks guys. This one was very fun to write.

I finally have a chance to update on the insufflation of this molecule vs. straight oral use.

So was the duration shorter and come up faster?

Certainly. :)

IMO insufflation is preferred if you don't want to wait 3 hours for the trip to come on, as it shortens it to about an hour. First alerts are noted within 15 minutes but they are minor and the come up remains gradual. I've only been using minuscule doses 1-2mg at the very most, but manage to have a good 8 hour trip via this method.

The last time I did it I redosed a few times as well, got drunk after 8 hours of fun and also took 2mg klonopin and .6mg suboxone and fell asleep. Awoke 5 hours later for work and felt exhausted and a little tweeked out, but was able to function normally. Two days later, with tomorrow off, I've taken another snoot-full of around 2mg. No MXE or other drugs, aside from alcohol (the equivalent of 10 units, which I figure should hold my nerves as I've no one to keep me company).

He was just doing his job. I agree, but think about it their way. He as no idea who you are, and you could have been on the prowl in all sorts of bad ways. Just act natural and no harm is done by either party. Probably thought you were out trying to burglerize or vandalize.

I know I wasn't attacking him personally I was just laughing at the absurdity of the situation. I've kind of a strange view on how a culture should behave and it sometimes comes out in direct critical statements, although no malice was intended. Psychedelics have a tendency to bring to light the "farcical absurdities" if I can quote the late Aldous Huxley.
 
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