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2C-I - Experienced - Long-Winded Philosophical Diatribe

Xorkoth

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5-18-06

Yesterday I had decided that I probably wanted to ingest 18mg of 2C-I in the nighttime, and spend the night listening to good music and thinking. I'm aware from previous trials that 2C-I is quite a nice analytical tool, and I was definitely not disappointed in that respect. After hanging out with some friend until about 10:00pm, I went home, and proceeded to ingest the 18mg of 2C-I as planned, at about 11:00. Even though today is a work day, I figured it would be fine, because I handle lack of sleep quite well, especially when accompanied by a psychedelic afterglow. After I took the chemical, I laid down on my bed and started to watch some TV and occasionally doze off, waiting for the come-up.

What follows is a long-winded account of the philosphical diatribe that was coursing through my head increasingly throughout the night. The trip began a little shaky in that regard, and I couldn't quite seem to think of anything to write, but that was soon remedied, and once the floodgates opened, it would have been very hard to close them back up. If you don't care about my personal thought process during the trip, then skip to the bottom for an analysis, but you'll miss the entire report, because this trip was 100% about the intense analytical objectivity I experienced as a result of my mental and aural stimuli and 2C-I.

12:06 (T+1:06)- I'm finding that a useful way to channel my excess nervous energy is through moving my legs in little circular patterns, like a combination between a tap and a sway. It's actually making the come-up significantly easier.

12:20 (T+1:20)- Popped on Dark Side of the Moon for a little relaxation. Why does it sound like I've never quite heard this album before?

12:26 (T+1:26)- My typing accuracy is pretty dramatically affected, I've discovered. (ed: this went away) And the music is quite intensely massaging my brain and body. I think deviating from my usual tracey tripping music to Pink Floyd was definitely the right choice tonight.

12:30 (T+1:30)- This has quickly become entirely pleasurable. Yay! And we're just starting Time.

12:55 (T+1:55)- Dark Side is nearing completion. I think it's past time for a good hit or two from Mr. Vaporizer.

1:05 (T+2:05)- Time for Disc 2 of the Delicate Sound of Thunder.

1:22 (T+2:22)- I sometimes wonder why ketamine fascinates me so much. I mean, most of the time these days that I'm tripping indoors at night, I end up reading about ketamine trip reports. Currently, ketamine combined with DPT are the reports I'm seeking, and they're invariably.... awesome. There's not really a word to describe the cluster of emotions that these reports are making me feel. I occasionally struggle with the idea that I'm just sitting here, senselessly ingesting unknown chemicals while sitting in front of my computer, but it does help that the insights I've personally obtained from ketamine are heavily reinforced by eastern philosophy and spiritual practices, although why this should comfort me, I'm not sure. I come across this quote:

"She then proceeded to inform me that this human life, the life I know as life on Earth, is only one of many existences that I have and will continue to experience. She expressed that through practice, I could let go at any time of my current body, and move on to the next stage of my existence. In some respects, this seemed like a very familiar idea, such as that described by many eastern philosophies and religions. When one lets go of worldly thirsts, one can finally begin the path to understanding existence." -- Eric.Smerica, Erowid

That statement is so profound. When I read that, I wonder why it is, how it is, that the world has come to be in the sorry state that it is in terms of personal spirituality. Why has everyone forgotten that, in fact, this statement is literally true? When? I had certainly forgotten, until certain mental adventures served to remind me. Indeed, in the western world, telling someone that you literally believed this to be true would land you with some strange looks, at the very best. Yet, it is the absolute and literal truth. Why is it that, instead of practicing control over our consciousness and minds, we're rotting those very things away with our shameful wtbrasaf <-- This is my new word for that.

Well, I suppose we're not rotting our consciousness away, but merely masking it from ourselves senselessly. Meditation, in theory, has never made so much sense to me. I already realize that consciousness consists of many loops of thought, very much like a computer's operating system works. All of these subconscious movements of energy play into everything that our bodies and brains conspire to provide us with the illusion of time and space so deeply and seamlessly that it's only natural, I suppose, for a human to be unaware of it without putting thought into the matter. Of course, then, if one were able to consciously shut down various levels, that sensory information would be lost, leaving only the pure consciousness, much like the state produced by ketamine. That is so profound I can't imagine right now why there are people who attempt, quite successfully I might add, to squash this entire mode and avenue of thought, and in fact can and will ruin your life for it, instead.

When we're born into this world at babies, we are somehow bound to a specific new one-celled organism that is constantly evolving to become a human. Why is it that we have no memories of our lives until we reached a certain age, which seems to vary between people? Why is it that I don't start remembering my life until I was around 4 or 5, and vaguely even then in some sort of relevant context to the way I experience life now, but my girlfriend has distinct and clear memories beginning from 6 months old, verified through detailed descriptions of events with her mom? I think because I led a very idyllic childhood, whereas hers was rough from the get-go, with fighting parents and a divorce/abandonment, and a sense of personal responsibility to hold things together. She had to develop a strong ego very early on to help her deal with her environmental surroundings, and I really feel it has impacted her negatively since. On the other hand, I was lucky enough to experience an exceptionally wonderful and idyllic childhood that I become more grateful for each day, so my own ego had quite a luxury of time in which to slowly develop. Looking back while in psychedelic states often allows me to glimpse memories I had long since forgotten, just brief glimpses into my mind at that time, and it gives me shivers seeing how every successive step has led me to be who I am today, but when I was young, to be so unaware of all of this. It's just so beautifully ironic!

1:48 (T+2:48)- I've come to the conclusion that I've definitely not been fully in the "K-hole", as dubious a term as that is to me for some reason. Whatever you call it, I've been pretty far down there, enough to realize that I truly do exist as pure consciousness in some unfathomable way, in a very real sense. But I've not broken through to where I felt I was totally free of my mind - I still experienced myself travelling through ancient, deeply subconscious thought loops, inside my own brain. I really want to experience the total escape from the brain and into universal consciousness. I've done a significant amount of reading on the subject. I think the reason that the strong tryptamine and ketamine combo is often used for such purposes is because the ketamine allows for the physical process of removal from the body, while the tryptamine acts as the lubrication to escape the confines of the physical mind and join the universal mind.

In my opinion, there is nothing more psychedelic than this. It is the very definition of psychedelia, the very core of what everyone is trying to describe and experience. Other psychedelics may be more entertaining, and they may provide you with a uniquely and dramatically ALTERED perception of reality, and they may even provide profound, highly spiritual and instructive and illuminating experiences. But nothing strips away all the layers like ketamine with a tryptamine. Complete removal. The implications are staggering. But this is a very hardcore kind of trip to engage in regularly. And why should it need to be a regular event? Wouldn't once be enough? For that matter, isn't it enough that I've come to realize this very profoundly without having actually taken that final step myself? Probably. But then again, I keep uncovering new thoughts and experiences. The process of the self is an exhilarating journey... at every point you think you know it all, when in fact you know from previous experience that perception is a constantly-evolving thing.

1:57 (T+2:57)- So what is the phenethylamine's role, I often wonder? They're definitely my favorite in terms of enjoyable potential. For example, this particular 2C-I journey is particularly refreshing and easygoing, although I'm not really paying much attention to the effects that aren't on my thought process at the moment. Although, I do have a good amount of upper back and shoulder tension. But that's just a perception, like any other... there's nothing intrinsically bad or good about it. From an evolutionary perspective, pain teaches us that some form of danger is immediately threatening, so through continued exposure to it and its causes, we learn to associate bad thoughts and emotions with them. But there's nothing actually bad about pain; it's just another feeling.

Anyway, the phenethylamine, as I see it, is sort of an intermediary between the universe and the physical experience.

2:04 (T+3:04)- This quote I came across:

"There were probably around 10 different paths experienced involving the creation of the universe itself, most of which are too foreign to language to properly describe. One in particular was the fractal concept of our reality or whatever you want to call it being a fragment of an electron in an atom of another universe scaled larger than ours, and the same chain repeating in both ways. This was one of the parts that was very well visualized, and making the travel between all of those places in so short a time filled me with even more energy the next time I opened my eyes." -- FlowGnome, Erowid

I've believed this for many years now, and in fact began to believe it long before I ever dreamed of ingesting psychoactive substances. To have this belief fulfilled experientially, even by another, is so awesome.

In fact, this report is very excellent and thought-provoking! I mean FlowGnome's. The concept of religion and spirituality that most people have these days is sad. How could we have descended from such great heights into this pit of self-loathing and fear and repression and guilt that so many of the organized religions impose? What about those modes of spirituality are joyful, or enlightening, or worthwhile, or good? How is it that people are satisfied and willing to impose this upon themselves? Why is it that people will, with no doubt and a straight face, believe that there exists a large, masculine, singular identity who just so happens to be in the form that we are, except in our ideal of power and beauty, who, for some reason, really seems to have it in for us, his supposedly loved creations? That we're born deep, filthy sinners? Give me a fucking break! Actually, give everyone around the world whose lives hold no joy in the hopes of an elusive future ofsalvation a break! Give those who were slaughtered in the name of this concept a break!

Anyway, it just seems odd that people would easily believe this notion, but then to consider it ludicrous that we truly exist as pure consciousness, unified with everything, doesn't it? I mean, certainly they're both rather fantastical-sounding ideas, but I think equally plausible. Well, maybe not ewually at all... how vain is that, anyway, to craft "god" in your own image? It's directly against the morality of that religion, vanity is.

It just really bothers me what an enslaving "philosophy" (and I use that term lightly) it is, and unnecessarily so. We have the capacity to be unrelentingly joyous, living each moment in the now as if we had never lived a moment before, seeing the world anew with each breath. But through suffocating hierarchies of oppression, this is squelched in order to maintain social control over the masses. But all we have to do to escape it is remember that it's not real, although to our physical selves, oppression can be, though in the case of American religion, it's not because no one is enforcing it upon you. Just to remember that all the attachments we have, everything we are, everything we were and will be, all amounts to just another of our countless journies as higher-dimensional beings, and in the end, this life is nothing but a blip in the eye of infinity, soon forgotten. That's not to say we shouldn't love the gift we've been given; no way! We should absolutely treasure the gift of physical life, because it's really glorious if you let it be! Which is why it bothers me SO MUCH that such oppression and suppression of the natural feelings of joy and wonder and excitement and pleasure, senselessly and destructively. We should live each day as if it were our only day, and live it up to its fullest! But we would also do well to remember that in the end we can just let it go, and when things seem bad, all we need to do is realize it's transient, and rise above it, because it doesn't really matter.

2:28 (T+3:28)- Which CD to play next? The Animals, Dark Side of the Moon, The Wall... it's all equally fitting. I'll go with The Animals because I rarely play that one, even though I truly enjoy it.

(continued at the bottom: http://www.bluelight.ru/vb/showpost.php?p=5794281&postcount=6)

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xorkoth, i love reading your trip reports.

i gave up on 2c-i a couple years ago after using heavily for a long period of time. These days i just dont think it would do anything for me. Im glad you had a useful trip with it, it makes me wish i didnt abuse the hell out of it just so i can experience what you did last night.

Although i did learn from my 2c-i experience, these days i dont use 1 psychedelic for a prolonged period of time. Like you, i tend to switch it up each time i use.

Anyway, thanks for being such a good contributor to the forums.


ps. DPT and K seems like an excellent combo. One, which im sure i will get around to some day in the future. But as for the best combo, that would be a high dose of LSD with a med/high dose of mdma. Calling this combo cosmic bliss would notdo it justice. Hope you get to experience it one day.

peace.
 
Thank you! And you're welcome as well. This was perhaps my... 8th or 9th time with 2C-I overall, and a few of those were very light, threshold trips. I find that I'm liking it more and more, but I also realize that it is what it is. I may be surprised one day, but it currently seems like it's really not very "cosmic" stuff... it's more like an enhancer. But a very good enhancer. Anyway though, you're right, I don't often use the same drug twice in a row. I have with DOC on several occasions, though, because it's just so awesome.

Mmmm... I think I will, in fact, get to experience MDMA + LSD. I should be getting some LSD soon, and I'll be able to actually use it to its potential for the first time. If I work at it, I'll be able to find some MDMA as well.

But, I think my next serious trip will be with 2C-E. I look forward to it with anticipation and not a small amount of trepidation.
 
Damn, I know people like you that can get by with very little sleep. I am by no means one of those people. Less than six hours a few days in a row and I'm pretty much worthless. Seems like such a waste of time to sleep 7 or 8 hours.

I've read many of your reports and am going through a similar experience ... trying to integrate the psychedelic experience into my daily life. I have a lot to accomplish before I go back to school next year, which is going to leave me practically no time to indulge in these pursuits. I definitely agree with you on the ability of psychedelics to give you insight in Eastern philosophy. Being raised in a Western culture, it is often difficult to grasp some of the important concepts. You almost need to unteach yourself some things that you have been conditioned to accept as truth. It's really too bad that the the majority of public opinion on psychedelics is so differerent from our views. It's not that I don't understand why they are looked down upon, it's just too bad that they are. If treated correctly, they have a lot of potential for good ... unfortunately, they have just as much potential for the opposite.

I am planning to try a full dose DPT trip sometime soon. But I can't even imagine what it would be like combined with ketamine ... why have I never found that damned stuff? So far I've only taken DPT up to 40 mg.

I like this thought ... I think it was posted by Creakle somewhere. ;)

Well, I suppose we're not rotting our consciousness away, but merely masking it from ourselves senselessly. Meditation, in theory, has never made so much sense to me. I already realize that consciousness consists of many loops of thought, very much like a computer's operating system works. All of these subconscious movements of energy play into everything that our bodies and brains conspire to provide us with the illusion of time and space so deeply and seamlessly that it's only natural, I suppose, for a human to be unaware of it without putting thought into the matter. Of course, then, if one were able to consciously shut down various levels, that sensory information would be lost, leaving only the pure consciousness, much like the state produced by ketamine.

It is amazing how masked it can become. It seems like all Western religions do an amazing job of keeping people from discovering the depths of thier own consciousness.

Alright, back to work.
 
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Xorkoth said:
We have the capacity to be unrelentingly joyous, living each moment in the now as if we had never lived a moment before, seeing the world anew with each breath.

Indeed we do. Well said.

I wonder what people reading my reports think of me, what their mental concept of me is. I remember during my research in years past, I had these very lofty ideas about several of the more prominent Erowid authors, which have certainly not gone away after meeting a few of them (online that is). Are there people that view me in the same way? I think that most probably, there are some. And that's bizarre. But also really nice!

Well, for what it's worth, you seem like the kind of person I would hang out with if we knew each other in 3D. I like your reports, and I like your attitude. :)
 
Stupid editing... erased my post and now it's too long to put back. Here's the rest:

It really seems from my research that DPT and ketamine is the perfect combination. In fact, it even seems above the mortal constraint of fear that is so often the limiting factor. So often. Despite my relative comfort with trips that I have slowly attained this past year, I'm still terribly plagued by fear when exploring the deeper levels. A substance such as 2C-I (for which this was intended to be a trip report for, originally!) is pretty easy to get around, to rationalize away my fear, but when faced with the unspeakable awe and majesty of something like a 2C-E peak, I currently have no means of separating my fear from my overall consciousness, and it severely limits me. I mean, I consider my peak 2C-E experience to be a full +4, and in fact all I did was catch a glimpse, albeit a very full, visceral, and knowledge-filled glimpse. I was simply and absolutely paralyzed and practically gibbering with fear, the stark terror plain on my face. The fear was consuming and left no room for further exploration. I just couldn't make myself do it. But I really feel that 2C-E has some profound applications in dimensional travel, and understanding the way higher dimensions come together to form what we experience. An experience like ketamine is so penetrating that is goes beneath any concept of a dimension, because in actuality all of the vast cosmos is just an illusion. So dimensions are really not experienced in any way, or perhaps all of them are experienced as a unified whole, as an undifferentiable mass. Nevertheless, as physical beings we are for the time being exist inside a dimensional existence, so we would do well to understand it deeply. Chemicals such as 2C-E are penetrating to a shallower depth than ketamine, but in such a way that they are more immediately applicable and useful to our current manifestation of life. The understanding of the dimensions of time and reality itself, as in, the specific iteration of reality we experience in contrast to the infinite numbers of alternate realities that exist in a continuum, is staggering from my brief exposure to the deep 2C-E state. I can only imagine what being able to fully explore that state free of fear could yield. That experience really is rich beyond words, richer than anything else I've ever done.

Now that I've perfectly finished the DPT + ketamine reports, I think it might be time to look for reports of profound 2C-E experiences. There is much thought to explore there.

2:45 (T+3:45)- Wow, my 2C-E report is the highest-rated one on Erowid. Neat! Although, I do think some others I can recall vaguely have described the experience more coherently. But my report reads quite viscerally, I must say. That was QUITE a night...

Here's this report, by the way: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=48983

...Although I somewhat regret the title at this point, as it certainly was not "the end of the rabbit hole" by any means.

Fuck, man... I had somewhat forgotten how massively terrifying that trip was. It was literally the most afraid I've ever been in my life, by far, hands down. Sheer, teeth-gnashing terror, unadulterated. I freaked out in a very real sense that night, and I'm glad that I had enough self-control not to do something drastic. Wow. Despite this, though, I'd not trade the experience for anything and I wish to explore that state of mind further... although next time, without the piracetam, thank you very much! It seems that 2C-E allows one to view the entire structure of the reality we perceive in such astounding and complete and rich detail that it is unsurpassed and even unmatched by anything else I've used, in this specific application.

Whoa... why have I never noticed the creepy-ass mechanical-sounding Christian prayer emphasized by dark chanting right there in the middle of the song "Sheep" (by Pink Floyd for those not keeping up)? That was creepy as hell!

This experience: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=36560 is also great, with a little bit of a different twist. It's an interesting thought that the stimulus that creates the intense mental effects in 2C-E might be due to emotional cues, but I'm not sure if that was my experience with it. I can't recall what it was that I encountered during closed-eye musical meditation that sent me down into the peak, but I do remember the only emotion I felt was terror, and the driving force was logic. Cold logic. Also, I think this author's description of the "trip cyclone" is quite accurate and a great description. It was also exactly my experience with it, pretty much to the T. Especially the line about the calm at the center. Fuck it, I'll just post the quote:

"Also, I would like to describe something I call the “trip cyclone”. It was a feature of this trip and has been a feature of my LSD experiences as well. I would describe it not as the “mind fuck” which most would agree is the tangled string of thought where trying to find the end of the knot either visually, or through the use of logical arguments is useless. The trip cyclone is an expansion of this idea. During come up I would say that if I were a stationary figure, the trip would move over me like a cyclone over a town. I would describe the eye of the storm as being over my head as the peak hit and then the eventual passing of the tail of the storm as the comedown. The reason I use this analogy is this - at a similar time radius from the peak (eye of the storm), during both the comeup and the comedown, I experience the same level of effect, and in fact during comedowns I get déjà vu from the comeup. In the cyclone analogy, windspeeds are identical at a given radius regardless of whether you are standing at the eastern radius or western radius or what have you. Only near the center is the intensity the greatest, and only in the exact center where there are no radial forces is it supremely calm.

Ok so in addition I kept getting the sense that my conscious awareness was being pulled into the center of this storm toward the eye (the source). I couldn’t move directly at the eye however. The progression of the trip moved me in a spiral pattern edging slowly toward the center until I hit the peak. On the comedown it was the reverse process. I moved out of the circular storm in a spiraling motion - like a cyclone, or tornado or hurricane. This sense of motion was generated by the changing of thoughts, which were all linked along the length of string one would follow if one were thinking in the logic of a “mind fuck”. In this sense, the mind fuck for this trip was shaped like a spiraling string, which melded into a central knot and then spiraled outward again. Thoughts, which occurred to me on the come-up, represented a sort of “ying” and during the come down had a representative “yang” thought. On the comedown when I would realize that a “yang” thought had appeared (which was instantaneous) I would re-experience the original “ying” thought and this was much like deja-vu. What I can clearly say is that it seemed to me as though there was an awful lot of structure to the progress of the trip. " -- NutterButter, Erowid.

I recall seeing this posted on Bluelight as well. If you're there, I really loved this report, both before and after having a similar experience. Thanks!

3:48 (T+4:48)- What is it about ourselves that drives us with such an urgent need to communicate our experience, and to assign importance and significance to it? This drives us to create art, though, which is wonderful. I feel that the main area of my life that I had always had when I was younger but that I had started to lack due to my own laziness was the process of making art, in many forms - visual, musical, and aural, and writing, which fits perhaps a unique category on its own. For a few years in my late teens/very early twenties, I was really feeling like I was losing myself, and upon reflection it is because I stopped having the desire to produce art. But in this past year or so, I have begun to get that back, and my life has refilled with so much richness and meaning and joy that it sometimes brings tears to my eyes! Why is it that I'm always compelled to sit in front of my computer as I trip, and subsequently post up long and often rambling reports detailing my thought process? Because it's my art! But I also realize that writing, though it was always one of my primary forms of artistic expression, was always second place to music, which I have regrettably fallen out of the practice of creating. I love music to a fantastic degree. Music has the capacity to bring me to tears, to take me to ecstatic states more blissful than almost anything I could imagine. It has the ability to subtly shape the entire mental state that you are in, through its gentle manipulation of emotion. But it is even better when you're creating it, when you're a conduit for that force and it passes through you. It is so satisfying, and I really miss it terribly. It's really kind of shameful that I've let an entire lifetime of formal piano training fall by the wayside. Honestly. I need to become less lazy in that respect, and maybe in a few others.

4:06 (T+5:06)- This report cracks me up. http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=48910. This person reminds me singificantly of a good friend of mine, at least as is evidenced through perceived tone and inflection. I've decided to drink some kratom to attempt to get a couple of hours of sleep, maybe from 5-7, before I work tomorrow. I'm sure I would be fine without it but truthfully I feel it would be healthier to do so. I seem to have the ability to go without sleep while suffering seemingly few consequences. Every Friday, pretty much, I get no sleep whatsoever, at most a trance state for a couple of hours. And I rarely sleep before 1. Often not before 2. And I have to wake up at 7 every morning. During my freshman through the end of junior year of college, I slept an average of 3 hours of sleep a night, every day, for that entire period, and other than about a year of sleeping a full 8 hours every night afterwards, I felt no ill effects whatsoever, at any time. Well, actually, I guess I was steadily beginning to fall into depression at that time. So maybe that's just plain wrong. Or it could be other factors. Probably both. In any case, short-term sleep deprivation has seemingly no ill effect on me. Which I enjoy!

"I wasn't quite sure I was having fun. But I wasn't at all bothered by this trip. I was with a small group of friends and had planned on really exploring this compound; I wasn't taking it for 'recreation.' So even though I didn't have the feeling of 'this is fun,' I still was very interested in what was happening and I saw no reason to complain. The lack-of-funness seemed to be due to indecisiveness about what to do and what was worth doing. I was tripping fairly hard, but I didn't know where to direct this psychedelic state." -- 77k, Erowid

I think this statement rings very true.

" It seemed like the 2C-E produced a nonspecific, broad psychedelic state that, on first glance, didn't seem that useful. But in this mild psychedelic plane there are deeply psychedelic tunnels and valleys that, when you find them, are definitely the place to be and to spend your time. "

A does this, dramatically so. That has been exactly my experience with 2C-E... it's very difficult to direct, but if you can discover how, it's a massively powerful and staggeringly immense tool."

"I was caught in this moment of reverie. Such moments are one of the defining characteristics of powerful psychedelics. I found that primed for this state, all I needed to do was focus my attention on something for ten or fifteen seconds, and my mind would run wild, spewing forth an endless stream of free associations, ego trailing far behind, taking what few notes it could and shouting out any road signs it might pass on the way. And then seconds or minutes later I'd snap out of it, the endpoint of the journey - maybe in another dimension - still burning in the mind's eye. " -- From 77k also in the same report

This last quotation is one of the most beautiful constructs of language I can ever recall witnessing.

4:30 (T+5:30)- I just farted a couple of times due to the kratom come-up. Take that, Creakle! Also, the Report "A Lesson in Civil Engineering" (http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=10583) is a very good one. It makes me want to day trip outdoors with 2C-E, for sure. My only experiences with it have been indoors, at night, alone.

4:58 (T+5:58)- I'm re-reading my first 2C-E report. Man, I'm glad I keep such detailed records, because it lets me really get a good glimpse back to those times. Is it just me, or was the movie "The Ring" (the American one) the most sick and twisted movie of all time? That movie fucked me up profoundly... I don't think I'm really quite the same since seeing it in the theater when it came out. I haven't seen it since even though I bought it. Well, okay, I won't lie, I downloaded it. God, that movie freaks me out. Whoever came up with that imagery is sick in the head. Thanks to that movie, I now have images floating around in my head that I could have lived without having.

5:03 (T+6:03)- I've just about read every single report on 2C-E on Erowid with at least a 1 star rating. Suffice to say I need to continue my exploration. Fortunately, I will very shortly have the means to do so.

5:08 (T+6:08)- Reading MGS's experience: http://www.erowid.org/experiences/exp.php?ID=24403. Hey man, you tripped on 2C-E on my birthday!

5:14 (T+6:14)- Occasionally I consider how many people have potentially been infleunced by my trip reports already, not a year after I really started tripping in earnest and posting them all up. That's at once exhilarating and kind of strange. I mean, a lot of people use Erowid and Bluelight as sources of information, and I've certainly been infesting both lately. I wonder what people reading my reports think of me, what their mental concept of me is. I remember during my research in years past, I had these very lofty ideas about several of the more prominent Erowid authors, which have certainly not gone away after meeting a few of them (online that is). Are there people that view me in the same way? I think that most probably, there are some. And that's bizarre. But also really nice!

And with that, I'm going to try to get some sleep, because I just think I should. I actually really want to stay up, though, but I know I'll feel better for it in 1.75 hours when I've had a little rest and have to work a full day.
 
I didn't mean to bump this... but I was trying to edit something in it and it erased by post because it was too long. So I had to put it into two posts. Anyway, maybe someone will enjoy this. if you start to read it, start at the first post, and then the post above this one is the second half.

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I'm glad you bumped it! This was a really fun report to read, and it made me feel very good.
The quote you have near the beginning gave me chills.
 
Thanks. :)

It was nice for me to re-read too... I had this experience some time ago. How time flies. But at the same time it seems like a different lifetime.
 
Havent read that in a while, and I dont get where you took any special K?

Pink Floyd is my sinlge most favorite music ever. Animals is great, but I lilke the earlier albums like Atom Heart Mother , Meddle, and More. Obscured By clouds also! Lately I also have been widening my collection, Ive taken a hughe liking to Yes, Emerson Lake and Palmer, and Cream. And the Moody Blues as well, who I am seeing on the 29th. Id almost raher listen to floyd than trancey stuff while tripping. Though I never really got as much as you did out of 2CI, it was rather empty
 
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