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2C-E + MDMA - New Experience - Sparkle Flipping

AChemicalLife

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Given the lack of actual experience reports with this combination, I wish to share my experience with BL.

Sparkle Flipping: The Rainbow Roll​
Substance: 2C-E & MDMA (Sparkle flip, I KNOW you wanna call it that too :D Or, watch this...Rainbow colors = ROYGBIV, Roy's Roll, Rolls Royce? I dunno but this shit's fun LOL)
Experience Level: I have rolled easily over 100 times, but somewhere less than 300 times. I have taken 2C-E approximately 12 times orally previous to this experience.
Dosage: 16 mg of 2C-E was weighed out and capsuled using a milligram scale. It is white and fluffy, coming from a well-known vendor with no known quality issues. I believe that it is highly pure 2C-E, as the dosages that several friends have taken matches up with the expected effects. I am a bit of a hardhead, especially in terms of psychedelics, so I have found that my dosage range is slightly higher than theirs by a few milligrams.
Over the course of the night, two green naked ladies and one blue playboy ecstasy pills were consumed (no link on blue playboy, known to be clean via test kit...there are quite a few blue playboys on pillreports, but this one isn't a very widely circulated press). Both of these pills are extremely clean and strong.
All substances were taken orally.

Background information: This experience took place on April 4th, 2009 at a San Francisco rave (permitted, not sure I should be posting venues regardless though). Overall, I am in good general health. I consumed 500 mg magnesium oxalate, and I am a daily Adderall XR 30 mg user, though by the time I dosed recreationally, over 14 hours had passed since the Adderall dose. The day of the dose, I ate very little, as I usually do with psychedelics/hallucinogens.
This day, I was excited to be heading to the rave, as I had missed a pretty epic rager the night before. In using these substances, I intended to more-or-less recreate or modify candyflipping, which I have done somewhere around 40 times. The candyflipping experience always arouses a pseudo-religious experience in me; MDMA always brings about great human faith in me, and LSD always tends to make it all the more significant and magical, so I figured that 2C-E would likely be similar. Previous to this night, I had not rolled in approximately 5 weeks.

Time line & experience:
Coming Up
Note: all times are relative. This timeline did not start at midnight, 00:00 simply signifies the time of the first dose.
00:00: I dosed 16 mg 2C-E powder in a capsule. There was really no reason for the capsule besides the fact that I wanted to take it at the rave, and not have to deal with powder. I ended up eating it before leaving my house, along with 500 mg magnesium supplement.
00:20: I arrive at the rave, and am pretty stoked for this party.
01:15: After mingling a bit with some familiar faces and checking out the venue set up, I figured it had been about 90 minutes since I dosed, and decided to take a green lady. Obviously, I was quite off on the time since 2C-E dose. I suspect time dilation is already in play.
01:40: I take another green lady, assuming an hour to have passed (this is my normal ecstasy RoA, take one, another ~60 mins later). Again, time dilation. No other major effects to speak of.
01:50: I feel the beginnings of the speedy rush of the 2C-E (feels a bit different than MDMA, and also a bit too soon for the MDMA to start coming on...read on and you'll agree), but not much else yet.
02:25: Nothing to speak of in terms of rolling. I am beginning to clench my jaw already, and begin the wondrous menthol chain-smoking marathon that I tend to partake in on most substances, especially MDMA and psychedelics. I note that there are barely any actual psychedelic effects, but have faith that it will happen, since I am generally a "late-bloomer" in terms of psychedelics, in that acid takes 90+ minutes for any threshold effects to come on, and 2C-E I found takes about 2 hours, almost on the dot every time I've used it so far.
02:45: The 2C-E has come on quite fast. I am getting a pretty nice body load (I enjoy the 2C-E feel, personally) and am starting to get artifacting effects from the lasers and lights. I start to wander between three of the four rooms, gravitating toward the trance and psytrance rooms, and some hardcore. Dubstep is not for me though, sober or high.

And higher...
03:05: This place is getting absolutely PACKED. The full psychedelia is definitely almost at its maximum. I am still not experiencing much in terms of MDMA roll, and I know these are really good pills, having taken them before. I wonder if the 2C-E has masked the effects? About 25 minutes later, the roll starts coming. I am very familiar with the time line of ecstasy, and it is definitely coming.
03:25: Ahhh, this is what I'm talking about! I am starting to feel the full effects of at least one of those pills. Boundaries between objects begin to bend and dissolve. It is different from the typical hallucinogenic "melting" effects in that the boundary lines between foreground and background objects just sort of gets really fuzzy, rather than melting. The lights reflecting off of everybody look absolutely ridiculous. Can it really be that colorful in here?


Wait, I'm even higher? The peak...
04:30: The previous hour has led to continued intensitification. I am definitely peaking on the 2C-E and MDMA at this point. Trance is absolutely amazing, psytrance is mind blowing. The psychedelic posters move and sway in some abstract dance. I don my trademark blacklight-active painter's mask and Vicks. I start to feel absolutely ecstatic...oh yea, that's why it's called ecstasy, huh. I dance hard, and it's fucking PACKED. This place is absolutely hoppin' tonight. I'm tempted to buy some beer or liquor from the bar here, but I don't see mixing alcohol into the equation as a very good idea.
At some point, I get a lightshow. It's easily one of the very best I've ever seen. I feel that 2C-E is the missing link between me and the spectacle of lights before me. Everything trails for quite a while, and the trails start to run into each other as they build up, leaving behind a sparkly, wonderfully brilliant color that can only be described as what happens to me when I look at bright white objects on acid. It's as if it is every color at once, but pure white energy is the overbearing force. At the same time, nothing is really very white. It is difficult to explain.
05:45: Around this time, I head outside to smoke a cig and cool off. This place is right on the Bay, and it's probably 40°F outside. Really really cold. The drugs do not keep me warm, and the cigarette is honestly not very good tasting. I spit it out and head back inside to dance. I'm a very chatty person right now, typical MDMA effects. The combined effects of triple-dropping some really nice pills and the 2C-E is amazing. Oftentimes I find myself floored from crazy good pills, but the 2C-E adds a speedy effect that keeps me dancing in a sea made of rainbows, and people who just want to enjoy the night, dancing to feel alive...I've reached the point where I love everybody there. 99% of all the people here are rolling balls. Typical rave scene is found, but it all seems somewhat new to me. Lasers seem to be focusing on me all the time, no matter where I am on the dance floor. I rarely need a breather from dancing tonight, though I take a few to talk to some amazing people. The colors continue to dance, even when I paused.
06:45: I take a break outside to smoke some weed outside with a few friends. The visuals seem to subside. 2C-E is very tailored to what you want from it (IME). I wanted to chill out and cool off now, smoke some weed. The distracting visuals and colors take a breather when I do, compared to when I took breathers inside the venue, and wanted the visuals to keep coming. Away from the pounding bass, things seem less magical, but more lucid. Bad thoughts never enter my mind, a bad trip never even hints at showing its face. The blunt is now peach flavored ash, and I head back inside. The effects pick back up immediately, with no less intensity than before. I am still rolling absolute balls.
08:00: As happens many times, the conclusion of the rave is the most emotional and heartfelt, exciting time to dance. The music is amazing, the psytrance pounding into my brain...I dance like it were the last night on earth. Or maybe it wasn't earth.....I don't know, but it's where I like to be.

Comedown? Sort of, end to a great night
08:05: So, the rave ends. After chatting up a few of the DJs/promotors, I drive somebody home. We end up talking in my car for around two or three hours. I am still rolling pretty hard when I get to his house, and music plus additional weed keeps the vibes going. By the time I leave, my visuals are all but gone (not much to see at 7 AM on a dark morning on the freeway), though the roll is still slightly felt. Once I get home I sleep like a fucking rock that's been hit on the head by another rock. The next few days are blissfully relaxing, and I don't really have the post-MDMA depression feelings, or much of a comedown at all to speak of, though my jaw is quite sore the next day...not unusual.


Conclusions: It seems to me that 2C-E delays the process of rolling, but additional experiences will have to be pursued to find out. I definitely did not roll as fast as I usually do, but I definitely rolled at least as hard, probably harder than usual. I will definitely be trying this combination again. The combined effects of the substances don't cancel each other out, nor are they exponentially effective. They are simply cumulative, both existing at the same time. Neither really overrules the other...this is easy to imagine if you have candyflipped with a moderate/reasonable LSD dose.
Music on 2C-E is already quite good, and, of course, music and MDMA are an already perfect cocktail. Combined, these substances yield an absolute paradise for the ears. I cannot say definitively that I experienced synesthesia on this night, or that I have ever experienced it with 2C-E. I have taken up to 20 mg of 2C-E, without a full blown mindfuck trip. I am working up to that...though I know i usually need to eat more psychedelics than those around me to get the same effects. Some people I know have reported feeling "the highest they have ever been" on ~15 mg of 2C-E, whereas I was on 18 mg, not the highest ever, but relatively high.
I am still awaiting that time when I trip epic fucking balls on 2C-E. Next time will be 22 mg. Once I find the sweet spot, I will bring the MDMA back into the equation, for ensured good vibes during the mind blowing rainbow psychedelia.
Sparkle flipping is a good name for this combination. I don't know that this combination is for everybody, but for me, it's pretty perfect. 2C-E has a pleasurable body load to me (as does moxy), but not for other people. I love rolling, and I love psychedelics, and I love combining them. Of course, as I said, not everybody is the same way, so my combined rainbow-orgasm explosion of technolove may not be replicable by everybody, but for those who think that the "candy" in candyflip is not just a name, but more of a property of psychedelics (Sweet!), I definitely recommend this combination, possibly at a lower dose. I am experienced and not a freak out prone guy, and have ample mind to spare.

Sorry that this is so long, this is the first report I've published here. Thanks for reading, please let me know of anything that you find weird, interesting, questionable, etc. I'll comment or clear it up for you. Thanks.

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Great report, dude. :) I enjoyed reading it. Sounds like a nice combo. I changed the title slightly to reflect your level of experience as per the posting guidelines... let me know if it is inaccurate.
 
That's correct and fine, was the first time with the combo. Thanks man, I'm really glad you enjoyed it. =D
 
at the last rave i went to i took 25mg of 2ce and mdma. fun combo but not good at a rave seems like the 2ce weighs you down to much.

I would say 25mg at a rave is probably too much unless you're a real hardhead or really experienced...

Lower the dose, try again :p
 
This is an EXCELLENT TR so I want to bump it <3

I have recently had some 2ce experiences and have LOVED the euphoric effects that it caused... I cant wait to try sparkleflipping :) <3

Love <3
 
awesome report. Can someone describe the intense body load of 2C-E I keep hearing about? I haven't done moxy.
 
Nice report, I am honestly jealous after reading it. I wish I had a night like that, with those substances. It's been a while since I've had 2c-e, and a good roll let alone both mixed together.

-dp
 
Sweet report! I haven't done 2c-e, but I have combined MDMA with 2c-i and it was fabulous. Not sure exactly how similar 2c-e and -i are though. Have you done 2c-i? (Or 2c-b, I've done that too) How do they compare?
 
2c-e and 2c-i are both pretty damn amazing combined with MDMA

2c-i has a more speedy PUSHY feeling to me. like, 2c-e vs say shrooms. 2c-e is a bit more controlled/fluid, mushrooms kind of PUSH me to trip. 2c-i kind of pushes the euphoria like X.

2c-i is more speedy/euphoric to me, and less visual (but this is not to say at all that you can't trip balls off of either).

The 2c's are like cross between MDMA and LSD, yea? Mostly. 2c-e leans more toward acid, 2c-i more towards MDMA, and both combine great with X.

2c-b, wasn't really worth my time, it's TOO gentle for me
 
I'm going to raise the bar massively here (waay too high) and say that i bombed 300mgs of MDMA cut with 2c-e (although it could have possibly been another compound from the 2c-x family). I'm not a very experienced psychedelics user and this absolutely sent me spiralling out of control into a massively bad trip- it was almost unbearable and took a lot of will power to get through alive. Lesson learnt= all in moderation
 
this trip report dazzled me. i definately want to experiment with 2c-e as well as some candyflipping b4 hand. hopefully ill have a chance in the next year...
 
great report. I really enjoyed reading it. Sparkleflipping sounds great, I have tried Candyflipping once but did not really like it (100mg mdma x 2 / 2 hits of lsd) , even though I love lsd and mdma on their own. I may have to try this combo some time...
 
Well I'm trying this combo now and will report back my findings. I'm thinking 16mg 2ce + 100mg molly, then probably redosing 50mg molly at T+4 or so.
 
Well the come-up kind of sucked, I had to induce vomiting to settle my stomach down because it was rumbling so much. After that I popped a couple tums and that stabilized me.

Now both of them are starting to peak and it's very interesting. It's like 2c-e is so left-brained, logical, and unemotional, while molly is so right-brained, emotional, and lovey-dovey. They are both there and and I can switch in between the experiences, but they are still very distinct from each other. It is like the right and left hemispheres of my brain are meeting each other and falling in love.

Both 2ce and molly are incredibly strong drugs so don't combo them if you haven't done both before enough times to know what you're getting into. But if you love both of them and want them to meet each other like they're different entities and you're the matchmaker, well...it is pretty incredible ;)

I'm off now to enjoy the rest of the experience.
 
Well the come-up kind of sucked, I had to induce vomiting to settle my stomach down because it was rumbling so much. After that I popped a couple tums and that stabilized me.

Now both of them are starting to peak and it's very interesting. It's like 2c-e is so left-brained, logical, and unemotional, while molly is so right-brained, emotional, and lovey-dovey. They are both there and and I can switch in between the experiences, but they are still very distinct from each other. It is like the right and left hemispheres of my brain are meeting each other and falling in love.

Both 2ce and molly are incredibly strong drugs so don't combo them if you haven't done both before enough times to know what you're getting into. But if you love both of them and want them to meet each other like they're different entities and you're the matchmaker, well...it is pretty incredible ;)

I'm off now to enjoy the rest of the experience.


I agree wholeheartedly with your notion of the unemotional, sort of cold, logical side of 2C-E meeting up with the loving, warm molly. It's a fantastic sort of meld I haven't been quite able to recreate in any other combinations I've tried thus far (though I have gotten close!)

That being said, your take on it was from a whole new POV than what my TR had covered, and I hope you write your own TR soon :)
 
Cracking report, brilliantly written! I hope I have half as much fun when I try this combo in the very near future...

I'm planning to establish the mdma first, using the c-e to extend things & liven the visuals up a bit. I'm a light-weight, have used mdma for nearly 2 decades but rarely in high doses, rarely regularly & very, very rarely in long, binges. I'm also sensitive to psy's... Planning my usual small doses of mdma (an hour apart, like you except smaller doses), perhaps taking the c-e with the last, or 2nd last dose of mdma. Will be at a rave up & am bringing my less experienced gf (who I'll look after carefully, dont worry). In fact, the experiences we HAVE had gives me the impression she's actually less sensitive to these things than I am!

Anyway, will return to this thread when I have results to post :)
 
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