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2c-e 6th time borderline

nothinginside

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2c-e

no access to scales

the day was a stressful day of driving around back and fourth for a total of 400 miles... only to search for mushrooms... that did not show their existence..

so i get home along with my friend K.. at my house there are 5 people. 3 males.. 2 females.. now there are 5 males and 2 females counting me and my friend K...

i don't understand why everyone is at my house.. cept for it's a place to go.. i gave my friend S the key combination to my house and that's who let everyone in.

anyways. i take the chemical at 11pm.
the dose is eyeballed. estimated dosage is around 5-7 mg.

S decides to join me. this would be his first psychedelic experience.
i let him take a small dose, like i did. est dosage same as mine. probably lower.

two girls, C and A, stay around for awhile. I don't mind this but the situation is quite weird. C and K used to date a couple years back, they still play fight, they still have feelings for one another. I remember sensing this throughout the experience. C is now dating my friend N, who left at 12:30 pm... T+1:30 HR

anyways on with the timeline

set food intake normal for the day. mood is pissed off. fuck stupid drug pushers who can't coordinate their markets. feel tired. been driving for over 9 hours.

setting my house. parents are gone. the place is trashed. ashes everywhere. my kinda place. the temperature outside is very chilly. fucking 50s in july. stars in the sky are nice. moon is nice. i see a planet very near the moon. it shifts position throughout the night.


11:00 PM - 5~7 mg orally - T+0:00 HR
chemical ingestion. raw powder. i like the taste of this chemical. i ate normally this day. trip should be managable.

T+1:00 HR
the experience is progressing in a predictable fashion... slight stimulation. slight haze over all objects. eyes more sensitive to light, but not too noticable. RGB values noted very present at the moment, due to television being on. i feel as though i am containing myself at the moment. I am high, with a little beer in me, only 3, and a small dose of psychedelic flavor.. I am around tons of sober people. albeit drunk. but sober to me. I find myself already analyzing speech patterns. K, myself, J, and S smoke a bowl. N C and A stay inside. S decides he wants to join me in my adventure. I warn him of the duration and content of the experience, and that i will be an hour ahead of him... He declines any offer to back out, so i eyeball out roughly the same dosage i took, probably less. He seems anxious.
this is his first psychedelic experience. a great responsibility is placed on me to show him the door correctly. or let him find it, whatever comes first.

T+1:45
i have a conversation with my friend C. we talk about personal issues dealing with ex boyfriend R who is not present at the moment. R's dad passed three months before. C has tried to be there for him but she realises she can't be. we talk about relationships and life and ourselves and each other. the conversation is weird. C is anti-drug. very closed minded. i try to remain on her level but conversational weirdness has hold of me. i tell her i need to have contact. she doesn't think this is weird. i put my arm around her and tell her i wrote her name in the stars. she finds this amusing.... i like C. she can be very cool. she is very intelligent and can follow most things i talk about. she also stuns me at times, catches me in the wrong, which i like. I make her aware of my appreciation of her. she thinks i am strange, but this is ok.

this all started with me having to ask someone to come outside with me to make sure it was really that cold

effects at this time are very speed-like. i feel very good. i feel very on top of things, but at this time my verbal capacities are lagging behind everythign else.. thought is hard to crystalize. it just happens.

i creep C out because my visuals are starting. people seem to be able to read my eyes. might just be self-induced reflection of reflection but i've been told by many that when i trip my eyes don't look very comforting. they can tell i'm goin through some pretty creepy shit.

T+2:30 HR
trip is definately coming on. i find myself distracting myself quite a bit. I don't want to be tripping right now at this moment because of all the sober people. i know i look insane. i look at myself in the mirror. not a good idea. A runs to the bathroom as if she is about to puke. oh shit. i had thought about fuckin A or at least trying to suck on some titties just because i wanted ass.. but no. she is not my type. nor what i'm attracted to.. i would only be using her body to get off on... damn i'm tripping. i get her a water. she lays there on the floor. acting vulnerable. I feel what she feels. she wants me. dammit.

i get her water and ask her if she needs to go lay down.. one part of me wanting ehr to go lay down so i can gizz on her ass.. one part of me saying no weirdo.. you'll regret it.

anyways.. effects at this point are definate visual alteration. color enhancement. when i shut my eyes i see sound waves. i see sounds in different colors. patterning is prevalent. OEVs not so strong but are there if i look for it.. or don't look for it more like it.

T+3:30 HR
C and A have finally left. Now is is just me, K, and S. We decide to play some Halo on xbox. playing is very easy. easier than normal. it's as if i see more at once. i anticipate very easily. all of it reminds me somewhat of the slowed time mechanism in the matrix and whatnot. i literally feel, sharper. i don't know. maybe i'm just tripping. mind is very expanded at this point. we had been watching a movie for the first couple hours coming up on the trip. I forget the name of the movie, but it's about a couple and their search for sexual extacy. the methods are trantic i believe. i'm not sure. I felt this movie. normally i wouldn't even want to watch tv under the influence.. but i felt this movie. that's the best way i could put it. the acting and screenplay was just so well thought out. the plot was so deep. very good. It's like i was able to really live the movie. the ups, the downs.. it's like the writer tripped... or the director was tripping. got some mad visuals as well. it's as if the movie was set up for visuals. i will have to look in tv guide to see what it was.

T+5:00 HR
I have been successful in turning S on.. or letting him do it himself. I made him come outside with me. I felt as if i was drawing pictures with my tone of my voice and rythem. i felt as if i were tapped into some shamanistic channel mechanism. I had complete awareness, yet control of uncontrol. blah... paranoia somewhat. feel as if people are watching the two weirdos. S talks loud. We hear a train that causes this. the train is confused with an airplane. sound is definately amplified. S doesn't know what to make of it all.. doesn't like the visuals. because they scare him i guess..

T+6:00 HR
Had some pretty psychedelic conversations with S. made some realisations that are of personal matter that cannot be named.. because their is no name for the now, the here. it is now. back at this place. but you're here to.
I seem to be a good director of experience.. not to boast.
I know how to explain psychedelia while under psychedelia.. all you do is give the other a push.. play off of one another, and let each other interpret their own picures. I explained to S to focus on his breathing and watch a plant. he does so. he freaks out. but enjoys the freak out. We both sit in chairs. tv off. computer off. xbox off. the suns slightly making things brighter. we need some dark before the light i tell him. i mutter simple words. i tell him to think of the word center. and become it. i watch his face. he is gone. :) i did the same thing earlier. I went. I exclaimed. sometimes i just ened to go away. S said he could see me body but not my mind anymore. I told him he can go their to, when asked where i went. i showed him. this made me feel good.

T+7:00 HR
S is still speeding.. can't sleep. i decide to leave him alone on the couch. he seems comfortable in his trip state. eyes are closed body fetal position. relaxed. I feed my animals. They are very hungry at the moment. My cat acted tripped out the whole night. I sit in front of a long wall mirror in my parents room. study my body. move gracefully with unseen/unheard rythems. tracers still prevalent. trip still going. but it's light out. i want to sleep.

wake up 6 hrs later.. feel good..
 
Haha. I like T+2:30 HR.

"A runs to the bathroom as if she is about to puke. oh shit. i had thought about fuckin A or at least trying to suck on some titties just because i wanted ass.. but no."

"i get her water and ask her if she needs to go lay down.. one part of me wanting ehr to go lay down so i can gizz on her ass.. one part of me saying no weirdo.. you'll regret it."

But it kind of seems like a wasted trip.
 
definately not a wasted trip.. maybe a wasted trip report.

so much more happened than what i wrote down.

but most of the things that happen while tripping are nameless.

every time i trip i feel i'm visiting a familiar world of unfamiliarity... every time i turn on, and tune in i learn so much. or i gain so much experience.

i have found that lower doses of psychedelics can be greatly benificial to any seeker.


off point somewhat.. i feel i am gaining an understanding of the psychedelic experience.. much more than i had before... 2c-e has allowed me to integrate a lot of realisations i've had, it somehow seems to be set up to help you structure yourself around these ideas.

maybe i'm just insane. ah.. not really. not yet at least.

we're just here experiencing this fracture in space in time that we call reality, now, so create your own niche and fall into it... the human experience is something so complex that it will never be fully understood, because understanding is just the path for growth. and we'll always be way too far away from where our 'understanding' leads us to think we are.
what would be the point in knowing everything? knowing it all? that's why we keep going. to find that out. but we'll always keep going.

reflections are reflections of nothing colliding with nothing.

it's as if the psychedelic experience just adds a four demensional mirror to the perceivers mental gaze. certain psychedelics are tuned to open up certain mirrors, refractors, reflectors. hmm..

yep anyways so i'm tired again.. writing is pointless now
 
Hmmmm...maybe I spook to soon. What I meant was it seemed like a bad setting for a psychedelic experience.
 
understandable.. yeah i got the same feelings.. sometimes i feel i'm wasting my trip.. and alot of times they could be better.. but something always seems to happen anyways to fuck up my trips, so certain situations don't bother me anymore...

normally i wouldn't watch tv, either.. but it was Ss first psychedelic experience, and somehow television gave him comfort.. anything on.. lights whatnot.. i had to basically pull his arm off to let me keep the lights off before the sun came up.. ... but he eventually knew what i was trying to do..
 
Great report!
I won't say anything negative about you eyeballing because you most likely know how stupid it is. :)
 
yeah i do... but i had access to scales once and from that amount i feel i can judge decently.. i say decently... and i only trust eyeballing for smaller amounts... really it is stupid


but oh well.. i don't think cavemen knew how powerful a magic mushroom was til he ate it... people stumbled upon peyote in search of water... the cactus was very attractive with it's flowering buttons and benign, spineless appearance.. people knew cacti held water, and this one looked especially juicy.. then bam... puking out both ends and then they had an ecstatic experience..... one that they related to god.

i dunno.. i'm just sayin.. i'm not interested in heroic doses of anything anymore.. 2c-e has taught me that a drug is only a key.. your mind holds the doorway for the key to work... as long as you have the key in your system at threshold level, your experience can be just as benificial, probably more so than a larger dose.

maybe i am just extra sensitive to this compound.

2c-e has some things to teach but ultimately it has no soul..

it wasn't created for any purpose other than research... it wasn't created for any purpose at all really.. it just was. i believe maybe a compound such as 2c-e in tandem with a moderate dose of psilocybes might give the experience i seek. 2c-e is capable of threatening the ego though... myself and one of my friends experienced this... at least he said he did, i just know there was a period of extreme discomfort..

i guess 2c-e's soul resides in your mind... it has built itself up in my eyes.. i don't know how good it is for me or whatever... to tell you the truth i don't really care. i've never heard of any psychedelic compound actually doing brain damage... so i won't believe it til i see real evidence. i never drink... never really do coke or amphetamines (other than phenethylamines).

blah.. stoned rambling in my posts again

i'm sorry
 
so much more happened than what i wrote down.

but most of the things that happen while tripping are nameless.

every time i trip i feel i'm visiting a familiar world of unfamiliarity... every time i turn on, and tune in i learn so much. or i gain so much experience.

i have found that lower doses of psychedelics can be greatly benificial to any seeker.


off point somewhat.. i feel i am gaining an understanding of the psychedelic experience.. much more than i had before... 2c-e has allowed me to integrate a lot of realisations i've had, it somehow seems to be set up to help you structure yourself around these ideas.

Wow... I cannot explain what I feel from reading this...

This is very encouraging... and no you're not crazy... it's good to hear that you feel you are understanding the nature of the psychedellic experience a little better...

here's some quotes from Maria Sabina that I really love:

'There is a world beyond ours, a world that is far away, nearby and invisible. And there is where God lives, where the dead live, the spirits and the saints, a world where everything has already happened and everything is known. That world talks. It has a language of its own. I report what it says. The sacred mushroom takes me by the hand and brings me to the world where everything is known. It is they, the sacred mushrooms that speak in a way I can understand. I ask them and they answer me. When I return from the trip that I have taken with them I tell what they have told me and what they have shown me'

I too hope someday to be able get the point that I am past enough of my personal worries, fear & pride to be able to understand that world and it's infinite possibilites and answers. So far what I have seen a has been truly amazing... Sometimes it hurts to leave your ego and the door and walk through it but man is the ride so amazing and worth it!

I have not yet experienced 2C-E but am most interested by it... from what I've read it sounds like it can be a pretty tough but rewarding and magical ride (much like acid)
 
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