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2C-E - 1 Experienced and 1 not - the great universal truth

MagickalKat777

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WOW! This trip definitely deserves a ++++ rating. Not even LSD touched the place I went to with such a low dose!

I've done this chemical many times before and I've never experienced something so wonderful.

To start the night, I had a friend over spinning on my decks recording a set and asked him to trip with me. He's never done any research chemicals other than 4-HO-MiPT (his first trip was 10mg coming down from a strong roll and he had the best time of his life on it) but since he'd done 4-HO-MiPT, I knew he'd dig 2C-E.

Well, I dropped about 4mg just to get a feel for it around 9PM. I am VERY prone to panic attacks and this was my first trip in over a year so I wanted to be in the right mindset and on the right dose.

He kept throwing down his happy hardcore until 10PM, when he dropped his capsule containing 8mg since he's been doing a lot of LSD lately and had done it just a few nights ago so I figured there'd be some decent cross-tolerance going.

10:30PM, my stomach is slightly uneasy. Not nauseous but it just felt mildly poisoned. Sort of like mushrooms I guess only I didn't get dizzy. I start feeling the warm not-unlike MDMA blanket wrapping around me and my anxiety goes down a bit. I drop another 6mg so I can be closer to him.

We just sit there talking non-stop until about 12, when I decided I was going to take another 4mg. He dosed another 4mg as well.

12:30 hits and we both start really tripping at the same time. We start going into conversations about his research on HIV and how its all a ploy to feed people AZT and other drugs which cause the full symptoms of AIDS. He went in deep detail and I was astounded. I've never trusted the drug companies but this is an alltime low. I won't go into it here but suffice to say, he had a lot of research to back up what he was saying.

It really starts to get interesting around 1AM. We're both having mild visual distortions when we look at things and focus but it wasn't overpowering. We get into the deepest philosophical talk that I've ever experienced while tripping. We started getting into talk about the veil that has been put over our eyes about our place in the universe. How everything on this planet is connected through a common bond: Energy. We got into discussions about the universal unconsciousness, something I never fully understood until this experience.

I lost track of time after this but its now 5AM and the trip is mostly gone. Probably due to the low doses and the fact that I took .5mg of Xanax to mellow out the stimulation after I typed the following. But I took him home and he went and took 1mg and went to bed so he can get up early to mow the lawn. This was about 3AM. No problems driving whatsoever. I was able to stop the trip completely until I got home which was quite nice. I'm not stupid and I know its not safe to drive on psychedelics and if it got out of hand, I would have pulled over somewhere where my car would have been safe and called a cab so I don't need a lecture. There's nobody on the road at 3AM (we saw about 5 cars for the whole 6 mile drive) so I wasn't concerned.

Anyway, sometime during the trip, I typed the following:

The Universe is Everything and Nothing at the Same Time

Anyone that hasn't been here will never understand this...

Everything that you touch, think, feel, look at, taste, fuck, suck, ignore, hate, love, cast away, destroy...

Its a part of you.

Everything in this universe is connected on levels that we're distracted from understanding.

We're taught to destroy ourselves by society in order to be controlled on a level of magnitude that is inconceivable.

Everything that you think is real, is real by default.
Everything you find to be fake, is fake by default.

But all these things are an extension of you. Every time you deny them energy, you deny a part of you.

Every time you deny these things, you destroy a part of you.

And that's just what they want you to do.

The men of power in this world don't want us to realize just how much we are connected because to do so would bring the end of our fear of them. The fear is what they use to control us. Not just fear of the police and government but fear of the world around you. Because through this fear, they control you.

Look at society. Everyone is expected to look and act a certain way. You're all expected to go to church and pray, to work and pay your taxes, to go to school and learn, to fuck those of the opposite sex and only those, not to do drugs, not to curse, the list goes on and on the ways which they control us.

They control us because they're afraid we'll find that we're all connected.

Once you find that, it can never be taken away. They can kill you and your soul will still be connected with those of the living, guiding them to find the places that you have found, to find the truth of the universe and see past the veil.

They scare us through fear of diseases that they made up to feed us drugs, they scare us through legal trouble for drugs they deem dangerous. Not dangerous because of any real danger. Sure, you can do drugs and die. But the deaths from drugs are pretty slim when contrasted with how many have done them and lived.

But one thing is certain. Once you find the connection, whether through drugs or through spirituality (and I'm not talking religion), it can NEVER be taken from you. Always remember this as this is the one and only universal truth: we are all connected. Through life and death, we're nothing but masses of energy expressed in physical form. We're all a part of the same energy and to that energy we will return. In this, we should not fear death but embrace it as a means to return to that which we came from. To go back to that one unconscious and yet conscious universe of energy.

To learn this truth is to become master of your own destiny in this life and THAT is what they're afraid of. They don't want you to see through the veil and realize the truth of your own existence and that your purpose is not one of working, reproducing, and dying, but of something much higher. MUCH higher than you know.

Religion is nothing but a way to control the world. Sure, giving people something to believe in gives them hope. But what if the truth came out? WE control our own destinies, not some invisible hand, and not the government. We, the people of this world, are the ones who can change everything.

Look at the signs pointing us subconsciously in this direction. Video games showing the same thing. Movies. Even music is trying to open our eyes. But we're so wrapped up in our own lives that we stop and forget that our purpose goes beyond physical life. It goes into something much deeper.

Haven't you ever wondered how it is that so many things happen that can't be explained? Like how your best friend can suddenly walk in and know exactly what you're thinking? Or how you can do the same?

Have you ever wondered why there's always this longing for something more in our lives but we can never seem to figure out what it is? We search for it and search for it, never seeming to find it. Its always there in the back of our minds that there is something missing. That something is your conscious connection to the universe. Once you gain that, you'll understand.

I know for one hundred percent certainty that once I physically die, I will transcend to a higher level. I will become nothing but the very energy that this universe is built on and I may be placed back into a living being of some sort or I may become part of the energy of the birth of a new star or even still, I may become part of the energy that makes up the void itself.

There is no heaven and hell. Once again, scare tactics. We're energy. Energy can neither be created nor destroyed, only displaced. Its a little bit more than a scientific theory. Its a universal truth.

When something dies. When something burns. When something vaporizes.... its all the same. Energy is released and turned into a new form. We know this as fact. Why should it be any different for the human race? We're made of the very same energy that makes up everything else and its time that we all rise up and accept that there is more for us than just dying and going to either heaven or hell based on the decisions we made in life.

There is no evil force that guides us to do bad things. We guide ourself to do bad things. Just as there is no positive force that guides us to do good things. We guide ourselves to do good things.

Why shouldn't we be taking responsibility for the things that we do in life and instead passing the blame elsewhere?

Its time that we all wake up and realize that we've been nothing but sheep following the shepherd and take responsibility for our own lives and our own destinies. Remove the mask and you will find the truth.

Take what you will from this.

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In hindsight, this was definitely a ++++. But oddly enough, it happened without ever hitting a +++ on visuals and body high. I had mild visual activity and a very comfortable not-unlike MDMA body high throughout the experience. I guess this definitely shows me why people sometimes say less is more. I've never gotten a trip like this from 2C-E before but I know for a fact it was 2C-E because 2C-I would have annoyingly stimulated me, 2C-T-2 would have made me vomit multiple times, and the body high... 2C-E was the first drug to ever make me truly roll. When I did MDMA for the first time, it was the exact same feeling. Only... it was fake. The 2C-E was like I was having orgasms from the universe itself while the MDMA was like orgasms from within. Very odd.

In any case, more experimentation is needed. I am pretty upset with myself for dismissing this one so long ago. I was abusing the hell out of psychedelics and when I had one not-so-great experience on it, I shunned it completely. I think 2C-E, 4-HO-MiPT, and AMT are going to be battling for my choice of best drug now. I've had ++++ on both AMT and 2C-E but I had an absolutely breathtaking +++ multiple times on 4-HO-MiPT so I'm torn.

Anyone have any ideas how to lessen the anxiety? I think if I quit rolling altogether and drinking as well, it will improve greatly but even after long periods of abstinence, I still get it. If I take .5mg of xanax when the experience first starts, could it terminate it? Will it work its magic through the whole experience? I noticed with rolling dropping a .5 at the same time as my first pill of the night kills my anxiety for the whole night, even if I go on a binge. I wonder if 2C-E would be the same.
 
We share a lot of similar beliefs on the universe, my friend ;) Great report :)
 
Thanks.

Its crazy how little I knew about the goings-on in the universe around me until tonight.

I've been a pagan for years... but this puts a whole new meaning on things... it put a lot of things into perspective and honestly, its a bit to swallow. I'm going to integrate it though and I'm thankful I was finally shown what exactly it is that I'm missing from my life. Its not religion. Its not a relationship. Its my connection to the universe around me.

It feels like such a big weight has been lifted from my shoulders and everything I look at brings a whole new meaning now then it once had before. The only other trip that had an effect similar to this was a ++++ that I had on my second AMT trip. It started to build the idea but never finished it. Instead, it focused more on how I look at myself and built around an idea that everything in the world is beautiful because it comes from the universe.

I always wondered what lied on the other side of things... pretty crazy. Interesting too.
 
Excellent. Welcome to the collective awakening!

The experience you had is the root of what psychedelics (real spiritual exploration actually, not necessarily by drugs and not everyone who uses drugs) have to teach us.

I'm glad to hear of it :) This gave me chills to read about.

My own most recent experience of this type was written in a bit more of a manic style, because the substances were AMT and 4-AcO-DMT combined. It was the experience that linked together my previous +4s (one of which was on 2c-E) into a unified whole. Here it is if you want to read it.
 
Good report but what's with all the us vs. them stuff. You took a peek behind the curtain but don't be trapped in 'they'. We fuck ourselves over- 'we' controls us.

2-ce is good, although I had to go higher in the dose to get it interesting. I will have to try again someday, cheers!;)
 
Yeah Xorkoth, that's a pretty wicked report as well.

So many more things happened during that trip that I couldn't type out.

We deduced that the universe is nothing but an infinite spiral expressed as pi moving forward... oddly enough, we had Milkdrop going and every single visual it displayed consisted of spirals right after we discovered this. Even now, I still see them...

And yeah dbailey11, my last time taking 2C-E was in 2004 and I took between 26 and 28mg... and didn't get to this place. Though I got to the most incredible place of physical euphoria I'd ever had in my life.

I think this 2C-E is quite a bit more potent than what I had prior... 2C-E was the first 2C I ever did and I definitely think its my favorite 2C. 2C-I felt like a toxic smack to the head and left me with persisting visual distortions 3 months after my last usage; 2C-C was intensely visual but nothing of a true psychedelic, even at 60mg; and 2C-D was interesting but gave me a lot of stimulation not unlike 2C-I so I never touched it again. 2C-T-2, however, was in a league of its own. It was so intense that now, 2 years later, I don't remember jack shit from the experience other than saying lots of "wows" and "oh my fucking god I'm so fucked up" and "I think I'm going to puke" came out many times during the trip too.

I definitely need to explore this one further. My friend wants to do it again and now says that he digs it much more than 4-HO-MiPT which blows my mind, since he has gone on and on about 4-HO-MiPT since I gave it to him early last year...
 
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