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2C-C - Orally - ~35mg +/-2mg - 1st time (not counting 16 years ago)
Apologies for the redundancies within - if I wait to edit it, I'll never get around to posting it.
Set:
Empty stomach, good mood, hungry, feeling cold, no tolerance
Timeline (estimated):
5:30 - Parachuted with a sip of water. Alerted within 5 minutes
5:55 - Onset. I like the feeling. So far there's tenseness and a hint of emotional pleasure
6:05 - Pleasant but neutral ++ already. My friend isn't feeling much of anything at the same dosage. I have a little tingle in my genitals that is nice.
6:15 - Peak? ++, a little confusion and a little tension. Derangey ala 2C-E (but way mild) not insightful pscyedelia. Visual sharpness noted
6:30 - Visuals appear, colorful but under developed. Same for the experience. Consider a booster dose, but think I'll ride it out. I like the space. Kind of outwardly focused rather than inwardly. My friend was antsy earlier due to a rough day and an ill-timed energy drink, so I was outwardly focused anyway trying to bring them to a better space.
7:30 - Plateau? Coming down? Consider a booster to extend, but decide to just let it go.
9:00 - Abrupt decline, maybe even earlier? I drink three glasses of wine and go to bed by 10, sleeping instantly and well.
Retrospective:
Well, it seemed like a reasonable starting dose. Onset was quick for me (20min) and slower for my friend (45min.) Both had completely empty stomachs, and I had my dose with just a single sip of water. The experience was primarily felt in the body. My friend described it as having a tryptaminey bodyfeel, whatever that means. I found it enjoyably tense, somehow soft, and not naturally erotic (but somehow enjoyable.) I could see lower doses being used for "MDMA-like" clear-headed, sensual, recreational party scenarios by some people. It had an edge to it that could lead to anxiety at high doses, but much less so than 2C-B. Vision was sharpened, and the color palette was that of DOC, but the style of the visuals were different. Visuals were colorful, but minimal and not fully developed at this dosage. They kicked in briefly at the 1hr and 2hr point. I might have explored them more, but I was occupied with other things.
Sex was normal, but intimacy was good (for me alone.) I felt emotionally soft and open. For instance, I tried playing Pistol Whip on come-up, but even that was too violent and stressful, taking me in a different direction than I wanted to go. The peak was short and defined by some emotional richness and a greater headspace change than the rest of the experience. The plateau was longer than the peak, about 2hrs, and was just as visual. That said, I feel like the experience wasn't fully developed at this dosage. I got a strong indication of the direction that it was taking, but didn't see it fully realized.
At the 1hr point and 2hr point, I was thinking about taking a booster. Instead, I decided to see it through to get a good timeline of the experience. The falloff from the plateau was rapid, leaving just somatic effects and a good mood. I still have a hint of the somatic pleasurable tension 18hrs later. Side effects were limited to minor jaw tension and some gas at the end of the experience. There was also a bit of a suggestion of chest and (maybe) sinus congestion like I get with brominated psychedelics. Unlike 2C-B, etc. there was no actual mucous production, but still the feeling that it was there with occasional coughing. My friend experienced it, as well.
It was pretty effective for an oral 2C-x experience. I had intended to start with rectal admin, but this turned out to be a good ROA. I like it well enough that I can imagine that I'll probably want to divide doses anyway to lengthen the experience. Hopefully rectal admin doesn't shorten it too dramatically. I had a hard time estimating timelines for this anyway, as I was tripping with someone else and was more outwardly focused and active than usual. I couldn't tell if it was coming in waves, or if my attention was just changing. This made it hard to know whether I was peaking, plateauing, or whatsit. Also, the visuals did not seem to be the strongest at the same time as the cognitive elements were, or the sensual, or the emotional. This made it less clear when exactly the peak was occurring.
This could be fun with a dissociative, but it would be a shame to miss out on that emotional warmth. I would have liked to explore nitrous, but I didn't have time. The experience for me was mostly outward facing, emotional, and mental. My friend did not get the emotional side. I also didn't have too much trouble cooking a dinner of middling complexity, and was able to consider eating some but not all foods. This was nice, but I would expect greater difficulties at higher levels or if I were less hungry.
All in all, I liked it. It was pleasant feeling in the body, and it was visually nice. It wasn't deep at this level, and leaning in the demented direction of psychedelia rather than the insightful, but other attributes made up for it. Basically, it made me feel soft and happy, and the world, beautiful. Not a terrible way to spend four hours. Sleep came easily at my normal bed time, albeit with the help of three glasses of wine. Hell, it DEMANDED itself. I would not have characterized the experience as relaxing or sedating in the slightest. Tense would be the word I would use, except it was tense in a good way.
While I liked it, my friend thought it was blah. I mentioned that it's always nice to have a short acting phenethylamine alternative to tryptamines. They agreed, but said that that's what 2C-T-2 is for, which they legitimately loves. I can't argue with that. They agree that the experience might have been meh for them because of the low dosage (and I believe the oral ROA, too.) We both think that next time 45mg orally would be a good start, or even higher in divided dosages. It certainly was light years better than my other 2C-C experience sixteen years before at 20mg! I wish I could go back and add an follow-up to it on Erowid.
I liked it enough that I would actually love to revisit it today. I'm fairly sure that I won't, but the echo of it is still present in my mind today, and I think fondly of how I would like to revisit that space, that pleasurable tension.
Comparisons:
It's more engaged than 2C-B, which feels smoothly dissociative and indifferent. None of it's anxiousness or dirty grott. They both have pronounced body feels, though--this one more so for me. Also, 2C-C is more to my liking of head and heart-centric clear-headedness. 2C-B, ironically, has a metallic character to it that 2C-C does not. 2C-D feels much clearer, less trippy, cleaner, and cooler. More like a stimulant. 2C-D is less erotic, but sex was way better. 2C-E was itchy, warm, neutral, and way deeper and with a darker color palette. They're not very similar, apart from the derangey headspace.
Apologies for the redundancies within - if I wait to edit it, I'll never get around to posting it.
Set:
Empty stomach, good mood, hungry, feeling cold, no tolerance
Timeline (estimated):
5:30 - Parachuted with a sip of water. Alerted within 5 minutes
5:55 - Onset. I like the feeling. So far there's tenseness and a hint of emotional pleasure
6:05 - Pleasant but neutral ++ already. My friend isn't feeling much of anything at the same dosage. I have a little tingle in my genitals that is nice.
6:15 - Peak? ++, a little confusion and a little tension. Derangey ala 2C-E (but way mild) not insightful pscyedelia. Visual sharpness noted
6:30 - Visuals appear, colorful but under developed. Same for the experience. Consider a booster dose, but think I'll ride it out. I like the space. Kind of outwardly focused rather than inwardly. My friend was antsy earlier due to a rough day and an ill-timed energy drink, so I was outwardly focused anyway trying to bring them to a better space.
7:30 - Plateau? Coming down? Consider a booster to extend, but decide to just let it go.
9:00 - Abrupt decline, maybe even earlier? I drink three glasses of wine and go to bed by 10, sleeping instantly and well.
Retrospective:
Well, it seemed like a reasonable starting dose. Onset was quick for me (20min) and slower for my friend (45min.) Both had completely empty stomachs, and I had my dose with just a single sip of water. The experience was primarily felt in the body. My friend described it as having a tryptaminey bodyfeel, whatever that means. I found it enjoyably tense, somehow soft, and not naturally erotic (but somehow enjoyable.) I could see lower doses being used for "MDMA-like" clear-headed, sensual, recreational party scenarios by some people. It had an edge to it that could lead to anxiety at high doses, but much less so than 2C-B. Vision was sharpened, and the color palette was that of DOC, but the style of the visuals were different. Visuals were colorful, but minimal and not fully developed at this dosage. They kicked in briefly at the 1hr and 2hr point. I might have explored them more, but I was occupied with other things.
Sex was normal, but intimacy was good (for me alone.) I felt emotionally soft and open. For instance, I tried playing Pistol Whip on come-up, but even that was too violent and stressful, taking me in a different direction than I wanted to go. The peak was short and defined by some emotional richness and a greater headspace change than the rest of the experience. The plateau was longer than the peak, about 2hrs, and was just as visual. That said, I feel like the experience wasn't fully developed at this dosage. I got a strong indication of the direction that it was taking, but didn't see it fully realized.
At the 1hr point and 2hr point, I was thinking about taking a booster. Instead, I decided to see it through to get a good timeline of the experience. The falloff from the plateau was rapid, leaving just somatic effects and a good mood. I still have a hint of the somatic pleasurable tension 18hrs later. Side effects were limited to minor jaw tension and some gas at the end of the experience. There was also a bit of a suggestion of chest and (maybe) sinus congestion like I get with brominated psychedelics. Unlike 2C-B, etc. there was no actual mucous production, but still the feeling that it was there with occasional coughing. My friend experienced it, as well.
It was pretty effective for an oral 2C-x experience. I had intended to start with rectal admin, but this turned out to be a good ROA. I like it well enough that I can imagine that I'll probably want to divide doses anyway to lengthen the experience. Hopefully rectal admin doesn't shorten it too dramatically. I had a hard time estimating timelines for this anyway, as I was tripping with someone else and was more outwardly focused and active than usual. I couldn't tell if it was coming in waves, or if my attention was just changing. This made it hard to know whether I was peaking, plateauing, or whatsit. Also, the visuals did not seem to be the strongest at the same time as the cognitive elements were, or the sensual, or the emotional. This made it less clear when exactly the peak was occurring.
This could be fun with a dissociative, but it would be a shame to miss out on that emotional warmth. I would have liked to explore nitrous, but I didn't have time. The experience for me was mostly outward facing, emotional, and mental. My friend did not get the emotional side. I also didn't have too much trouble cooking a dinner of middling complexity, and was able to consider eating some but not all foods. This was nice, but I would expect greater difficulties at higher levels or if I were less hungry.
All in all, I liked it. It was pleasant feeling in the body, and it was visually nice. It wasn't deep at this level, and leaning in the demented direction of psychedelia rather than the insightful, but other attributes made up for it. Basically, it made me feel soft and happy, and the world, beautiful. Not a terrible way to spend four hours. Sleep came easily at my normal bed time, albeit with the help of three glasses of wine. Hell, it DEMANDED itself. I would not have characterized the experience as relaxing or sedating in the slightest. Tense would be the word I would use, except it was tense in a good way.
While I liked it, my friend thought it was blah. I mentioned that it's always nice to have a short acting phenethylamine alternative to tryptamines. They agreed, but said that that's what 2C-T-2 is for, which they legitimately loves. I can't argue with that. They agree that the experience might have been meh for them because of the low dosage (and I believe the oral ROA, too.) We both think that next time 45mg orally would be a good start, or even higher in divided dosages. It certainly was light years better than my other 2C-C experience sixteen years before at 20mg! I wish I could go back and add an follow-up to it on Erowid.
I liked it enough that I would actually love to revisit it today. I'm fairly sure that I won't, but the echo of it is still present in my mind today, and I think fondly of how I would like to revisit that space, that pleasurable tension.
Comparisons:
It's more engaged than 2C-B, which feels smoothly dissociative and indifferent. None of it's anxiousness or dirty grott. They both have pronounced body feels, though--this one more so for me. Also, 2C-C is more to my liking of head and heart-centric clear-headedness. 2C-B, ironically, has a metallic character to it that 2C-C does not. 2C-D feels much clearer, less trippy, cleaner, and cooler. More like a stimulant. 2C-D is less erotic, but sex was way better. 2C-E was itchy, warm, neutral, and way deeper and with a darker color palette. They're not very similar, apart from the derangey headspace.
