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2C-B(IM), 4-Aco-DMT, Zopiclone - Experienced

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For anyone looking for a very social and interactive trip to share with a close loved one... the kind of trip that is just totally fucking fun the whole time... I would recommend checking out this combo. My girlfriend is very prone to having bad trips, as she suffers from extreme anxiety, but this combo allowed her to stay fully grounded emotionally and mentally, yet get many of the visual benefits of a high dose trip. It also allowed us to interact the entire time, neither of us getting locked into the introspection that can lead to negative experiences for some who are new to tripping, or those who are simply not made to handle 1mg acid trips….

I noticed a very strange reaction with a combo I tried a month ago that I have never experienced before on any psychedelic. I want to point out that this combo was very recreational for me, and was the kind of experience where my girlfriend and I just lay in bed in an almost completely dark room and watched the show for hours. Every few seconds we would exclaim, "Oh my fuckin' God! Look at that!.... WOW!"... or something similar. The trip was pure entertainment, and lacked much of the insight and depth of psychedelic voyages I embark on for enlightenment or spiritual growth, but it left me feeling deeply satisfied non-the-less. I feel that it was very worthwhile for the raw beauty and novelty of the experience. The visuals were so different than anything I've seen on a high dose of LSD, mushrooms, IV 4-Aco-DMT, or breakthrough n,n DMT trips. There was never even the hint of anxiety or discomfort, either physically or emotionally, and I maintained complete control over my mental faculties the entire time.

We started the night around 8:00pm with 20mg of 2CB orally, and enjoyed a couple beers while we waited for the first effects. Approximately 45mins later, after we started to notice the “bromo” coming-on, we both injected 2CB IM, in our shoulders… 15mg for me, and about 8-10mg for her. Around the same time I swallowed three 7.5mg Zopiclone tablets, and my girlfriend, Kyra, took two. Around 9:30PM we were really starting to feel the oral and IM 2CB pretty strong, and decided to add 4-Aco-DMT to the mix. We both injected 4-Aco-DMT fumarate IM in the opposite shoulders as the first injection. I took 20-25mg and Kyra took 15mg.

I should mention that I have been taking 100mg of methadone a day for the past 7 years or so. Also, I have been taking 54mg of Concerta, (methylphenidate), every morning at 9:00AM for about 6 months. Kyra has been taking Citalopram and Bupropion nightly, for about 2 years. I took my meds normally that day, but she skipped hers that night as we started tripping around the time she would normally take them. I mention her anti depressants as this combo allowed her to trip quite hard, despite that citalopram has been known to greatly diminish the effects of many hallucinogens. Ok, I know this is long, but now you’ve got a background on everything that was influencing the character of this trip.

So around an hour after baseline, with the oral 2CB and IM 2CB kicking in simultaneously, we were experiencing the familiar character and visuals I associate with “bromo.” I find it’s very easy on the body, and as space and time and the proportions of my apartment began to expand and shift to fit the new laws which govern the 2CB universe, I was feeling at peace, if perhaps a bit stimulated. I had read in a few places that benzodiazepines can significantly alter psychedelics and even enhance visuals, though at the cost of that brilliant clarity of perception we all know and love. I don’t experience a spectacular mental aspect to 2CB when compared to LSD however, and my priority was for Kyra to enjoy the trip, anxiety free, so we thought we would try the zopiclone. We wanted to actually see the change happen however, which is why we waited till we were already tripping to take it.

Kyra is always gorgeous, but on 2CB she is a goddess… and I find that it’s uniquely suited to love-making. So after swallowing the pills we occupied ourselves while waiting for any obvious changes to the character of the trip to occur. Up till this point, the trip had been nothing out of the ordinary, but as the zopiclone slowly took effect, the mild stimulation and moderate visuals gave way to a more relaxed, dreamy state of mind. It was not until we turned off the lights however, that the truly fantastic visuals came into play. Just before turning out the lights we injected the 4-Aco-DMT at around 9:30….

The lights are out in our basement apartment, though it’s not pitch black, and I can easily see the outlines of the furniture in the living room, and the faint, filtered light shinning through the fabric curtain on the door to my workshop. These are a cross between CEV’s and OEV’s, as I see the same thing regardless of whether my eyes are open or closed. Yet the dim light in the room allows the environment to influence and interact with what I’m seeing. There are intricate, three-dimensional patterns everywhere I look, with such depth that it literally looks like I could step right into the pattern. They are so much more than patterns though… they are crystal clear constructs, which form cities of melted wax and glass. Whole landscapes pass slowly across my field of vision… so distinctly tangible, that I am convinced that I move into the scene. It shifts so slowly, adding to the illusion of solidity and reality.

Buildings tower over one-another into the distance, all made of opaque glass and wax… they melt together, creating a labyrinth of side streets and alleys. Alien constructs; strange cities, are piled up the sides of mountains reaching fearsome heights, and I imagine the strange peoples who live here… their system of government, where the rich and powerful, known by the height of their fortresses... an ever-watchful gaze cast down to the tiers below… the city itself, a visual metaphor for the many tiered hierarchy of their caste system. I see these things before my very eyes…and understanding accompanies the images and landscapes that I see, along with a sense of wonder and mystery and comfort at being able to witness this world from the safety of my bed.

Kyra draws my attention to the window formed by the large blank TV screen beside my bed. It is a window into another world, and the sense that there is no glass, and that I can reach my arms into the screen, is overwhelming. She points out the endless line of little people, marching out of the grey-blackness of this silent portal. I watch as she describes some of them, and I watch them as they appear out of the screen, and march down into the streets of my glass and wax cities… finally vanishing into a grey fog at the end of a long narrow alley... never to be seen again. No worries though, there seems to be no end to this marching host.

We amuse ourselves discussing the intricacy, and raw lucidity to the visual display we are seeing. These visuals possess a solidity and “hereness” that I have never seen with other psychedelics. I have had astonishing closed eye, and open eye visuals…. Swirling fractal worlds where I couldn’t tell if my eyes were open or closed... but never have they been this vivid yet my mind remain relatively unaffected. Part of what I like about powerful trips is the process of ego-loss and death, but that can be a trying ordeal… one that everyone should experience. This too is filled with a sense of wonder and discovery, but I am detached just enough to feel amazement, without fear or hesitation...

Up to this point the visuals have been wax/glass and melting pastels. The 4-Aco-DMT injection completely shifts the gears of this trip. The visuals are rapidly developing a new character. Where as before, the cities and figures looked solid, they are now growing colorful outlines of neon-green, blue, and red glass threads. I look into the kitchen and there are three beautiful, life-sized, Asian girls in full Japanese ceremonial-dress. They are made of millions of strands of glass thread. Like watching a glass-blower at work, when molten-glass is pulled apart, until it forms thread-thin strands, shining from within… these women are composed of these threads… neon colors.

I look into the dark of my living room, eyes open, and out of that grey-black, a creature glides. It is made of these strands of hot molten glass. Outlined in flame, a hot orange and red, with green eyes. It is a dragon... or a phoenix... or a cross between the two… the most delicate strands giving life to its shape.... It glides out towards me, wings spread... and opens the outline of its mouth. A forked tongue of red glass/flame flicks out at me and just before hitting me square in the face... the tip unfolds... slowly revealing a tiny cage of green glass, with a tiny little golden, mechanical-phoenix, perched within.... It has emeralds for eyes, and slowly spreads its wings....

This vision seems to sit motionless for minutes or hours.... then it slowly fades away, making room for the next visual artifact....

It’s hard to communicate the intricacy and vividness of these images. And the way we were able to interact with some of our visuals was most impressive. I look forward to experimenting further with this combo. I think the dark was an important element to the trip, as it gave a larger canvas for our imaginations to paint visions across. I wonder what a sensory deprivation tank would be like lol? I enjoyed being able to interact with the environment and the visuals though. Zopiclone is not a true benzodiazepine… I’d like to here if traditional benzodiazepines have this reaction?

I wrote this quick so will update it and look it over when I can.

Any comments on similar combos would be of great intrest to me =D


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interesting report. i can't wait for the right opportunity to combine a phen an a trypt. my combo may be 2c-e plus cyanofriscosa shrooms during the full moon. it may turn out to be an amazing visual experience.
 
So has anyone had a similar experience when adding a benzodiazepine or benzo-like drug to either tryptamines or phenylethylamines or both? I don't understand why Zopiclone would react to hallucinogens in this way... there are BLer's who hate mixing the two for sure... Which makes sense considering it limits the intensity of the psychological effects experienced during a trip. For someone who can barely handle the psychological effects of normal, everyday-life however..... who is also determined to experiment with psychedelics... perhaps it's worth a try?

I know that many would argue, that no-one who is not stable emotionally, should play with hallucinogens... but that sentiment has never stopped those who would try regardless of the risks. It worked great for my girfriend, who generally reacts poorly to any kind of stress.... she was a little nervous at times, but considering the intensity, she was much better off then she would have been if she had only taken the psychedelics....

Another question... has anyone noticed a definite increase in the visual effects of psychedelics when they are combined with a benzo or similar drug?... Our trip would have been visual anyways, and the Zopiclone added a new demention... but can they actually potentiate the trip? I vaguely remeber Xorkoth, mentioning something about adding lorazepam to a psychedelic of some kind? Could be wrong though...
 
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