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25i-nbome / unknown - experienced - Accidental ingestion of large amount of 25i

RobotRipping

RobotRipping

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Okay a bit of background - I am quite experienced with 25i and have taken doses 2-3mg without issue in the past.

I kept my 25i in a 40% solution of alcohol which was going fine but I looked at it today and it seems my solution had dried up and it was just a sticky part stuck to the bottom of a cup, i figured there were at most 10 doses left so i put some alcohol into the cup and decided to test 1ml of this solution figuring that it would barely hit me. I think it's obvious where i went wrong here but either way I took a 1ml dose.

In the next 5 minutes I started to feel an insane come up, i didn't know what was wrong or why it was hitting me so fast so i became a bit worried. I then started to feel very sick and i threw up the few drops of alcohol i had taken but i knew it was too late.

The trip started to begin and it was accelerating at a pace i could not handle. The visuals became so intense that i couldn't see straight, every thought was being covered in patterns i couldn't describe, colours and lights were everywhere and i was losing my sense of self. I started to realize that i had accidentally ingested a massive amount of 25i.

I was trying to do anything to get a handle on the trip, it was extremely intense and overwhelming, i felt like i was breathing colours and patterns and it felt like it was going about 100 times too fast. So before freaking out completely i took 2 ativan and could barely get them down. At the time i was contemplating calling 911 while trying to calm myself down with insane visions and nonstop patterns permeating every thing in existence.

I took to the shower and sat in cold and hot water trying to deal with the intense come up. An hour after the dose i started settling in a bit and things slowed down (thanks ativan) but the visuals were all encompassing and i could not get away from them. I had to just fall into the waves of patterns and relax; as my muscles were tensing up and i was shaking.

In retrospect i probably consumed ~10 1.75mg hits at once. I was taken off guard by how fast it kicked in, i could still taste the drop i took when the trip started i wasn't sure if i was crazy or if it really had kicked in, it happened in a matter of minutes. it's now 10 hours later and i have extreme muscle tension and persistent visuals (the comedown hurts) but overall i think i'll be okay.

i just wanted to post my experience in case anyone ends up freaking out in the same situation; without lorazepam(ativan) i would have completely lost my shit during the come up. the experience was ineffable, scary and beautiful, everything i could have dreamed of but so intense that it's almost traumatic.
 
Shit man, I'm really glad that you are okay after that and that you handled the situation very well, especially with keeping the benzo dose low (I'm assuming 2mg lorazepam).
 
God damn that's a lot of 25i.
Glad you're okay man, I've always heard crazy shit about wash out doses and this story is no exception.

Rest up, that must have been a serious ride for your body.
 
thanks for the replies. I had insane muscle tension in my neck and shoulders for about 4 days afterwards but luckily i've recovered without any issues. I'm glad nothing serious happened.

i did take 2mg of lorazepam, glad i had benzos on hand, i would have shit my pants without it.
 
Wow, scary story! Glad you're okay...hell, I'm just glad you're ALIVE. Hopefully people will see this and think twice before guestimating a dose of this (or any) drug.

The NBOMes are nothing to play with. I foresee them bringing a lot of unwanted attention to the RC scene when the deaths start to mount. Just my $0.02.

~Sending <3 and light for your recovery~
 
I forsee none of the deadly overdoses we have been warned about. Some visits to the ER, or having to ride out intense trips for a while. But because the substance is so valuable to the psychedelic community, I think people will learn as much as they can about it and handle it responsibly.
 
bluedolphin said:
I forsee none of the deadly overdoses we have been warned about. Some visits to the ER, or having to ride out intense trips for a while. But because the substance is so valuable to the psychedelic community, I think people will learn as much as they can about it and handle it responsibly.
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Wishful thinking but I was unaware they were valuable to anyone except the true researcher who doesnt have to get licensing to handle more restricted chems. Do the NBoME series really offer something that is above and beyond 2C-B, 2C-E, and other PEAs? I seem to have missed it if they do.
 
^for me they offer so much more than any 2c could, the trip is just so different; very visual, lucid and not so anxiogenic. The trip feels more refined with less unwanted side effects and more psychedelia.

25i is kind of forgiving and smooth as well, if i took 10x my regular dose of 2c-e or 4-aco-dmt i would be far more frightened than i was with 25i. Certainly worth a shot if you like the 2c's.
 
Thanks for the report and I'm glad you came out of it ok.

I certainly hope that those who are buying this chemical in bulk are responsible enough to handle it properly, because it would spell certain disaster for the chemicals that didn't make their way into the HR1254 bill or whatever it's properly named.


I'm contemplating buying a gram of this but don't know what to dissolve it in. I'm thinking propylene glycol would be the preferred solvent, but I'm still not sure.
 
If it is freebase dissolve it in alcohol (70% isopropyl works)

If it is HCl dissolve it in water.

Convert freebase to HCl by mixing it with small amount of Muriatic Acid or White Vinegar. That way you have the option of taking them subligually / bucally on blotter.

Wear gloves and have a clean environment. I mean it's not like breaking down LSD but it's not that far off.
 
RobotRipping said:
^for me they offer so much more than any 2c could, the trip is just so different; very visual, lucid and not so anxiogenic. The trip feels more refined with less unwanted side effects and more psychedelia.

25i is kind of forgiving and smooth as well, if i took 10x my regular dose of 2c-e or 4-aco-dmt i would be far more frightened than i was with 25i. Certainly worth a shot if you like the 2c's.
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I am not a fan of 2C-I, never tried DOI, but 2C-B, 2C-D, 2C-E and 2C-T-7 all offer me something unique and appealing that I never experienced with mushroom-type psychedelics or LSD. I'd love to see a summary of a couple of the nbome cousins in one report. Maybe I was just assuming this family was another dragonfly....a lot of potency and nothing else.
 
I will be trying this soon, and 25-D is next on my list after that. I'll keep you updated bro.
Also, the 25-xs are far more potent by weight, but I take it you were talking about the experience itself. 2C-P is probably still my favorite. I never really got far into 2-CT-7, so I'll have to get back to that one one day.
 
Man I am so behind in the RC experimental scene. They all sound quite interesting. I have some 2C-B I will be trying soon, on it's own and with LSD. I'll probably have a report up for that :P
 
me blaming overdose as the cause for the problems proceeded anyways... check my trip report.... and ur report was actually at the front of my mind while i was experiencing a very difficult time.... thank you man!
 
What about the NBOMe chemical is so dangerous? I'm just reading about it now (found this topic through the search) but haven't read what mechanism makes this chem possibly fatal. I'm curious. What does it just make your brain go ....bat shit insane...if you take too much?
 
DexterMeth said:
I will be trying this soon, and 25-D is next on my list after that. I'll keep you updated bro.
Also, the 25-xs are far more potent by weight, but I take it you were talking about the experience itself. 2C-P is probably still my favorite. I never really got far into 2-CT-7, so I'll have to get back to that one one day.
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I have a small sample of 2C-P coming and I don't know what to expect of it. I've ordered some MXE as well; not to sidetrack this thread too much, but I'd wonder the safety of combining the two in reasonable doses.

I think at this stage I wouldn't trust myself and would just lazily purchase ion exchange blotters even though there's a bit of a markup. I know on quite a few of these forums they are starting to take NBOME compounds VERY seriously and banning the open sale of them fearing media exposure of accidental injuries, etc. NBOME goes down, then MXE, 4FA etc all get taken down. I like them and even though I know other analogues yet to be imagined would provide interesting experiences as well, these are the ones that I enjoy the most. /rant.

It's funny, my whole life I've evolved right alongside the rapidly devloping drug market, sampling all of the fancy little powders and white droppers and compacted spansules of the "next" drug. It's a lovely thing to think, I started 12 years ago with psilocybin and AMT, then LSD, then the 2c-family, never the doxxx family but still always was an option, and now 9 years later we've got analogues for every interesting class of drugs it seems. MXE for example, assuming it doesn't cause medical complications, I find more viable and useful for introspection and cleansing than ketamine, as it comes on very slow and lasts the perfect amount of time (just between dxm and ketamine, 2.5-3 hours). And I used to WORSHIP ketamine, so an improvement such as MXE (for me, at least I realize this is subjective), is a perfect example of outwhitting the shits.

We're chemists, we've got ours and fuck you. Legislate all you like our scientific minds and the obvious demand for something worthy and persistantly useful in dissolving boundaries of all kinds will prevail at such rapid speeds you'll be eternally fighting a war you can't possibly win. Politicians love those kinds of things, something ongoing and repetitive, something evil to fight albeit imaginary to take our minds off of the fact that the proletariat has been hoodwinked into a made-up, materialistic, valueless culture jam-full of sociopathic, opportunistic greed-heads waiting to fuck you for a dollar.

God bless those chemists and their alchemical cult of freaks that keep the dream alive.
 
SaosinEngaged said:
What about the NBOMe chemical is so dangerous? I'm just reading about it now (found this topic through the search) but haven't read what mechanism makes this chem possibly fatal. I'm curious. What does it just make your brain go ....bat shit insane...if you take too much?
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It's dangerous because it's being sold widely as pure powder and most laymen don't have experience dealing with compounds in the ug range. You need a solvent and liquid measurement, mask, gloves, the whole shebang. Think crystal lsd. Even if you inhale a miniscule tuft of air you'll have dosed yourself and performing the experiment (be it laying on blotter or using an oral syringe to make a solution) will become dangerous.

The fact that most people are eager to trip and rush through the solvent process would be a culprit as well I'd imagine, stock up on this stuff folks, people are fucking dumb and the DEA WILL take the nmbome compounds very seriously once media coverage reaches a climax, or deaths are involved. The fact that this individual took 10mg and suffered no ill complications leads me to believe that (thank the good maker) this compound is forgiving like LSD.
 
responsibill said:
me blaming overdose as the cause for the problems proceeded anyways... check my trip report.... and ur report was actually at the front of my mind while i was experiencing a very difficult time.... thank you man!
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Glad i could help :) I checked out your TR and we had a very similar come up except yours was instant. Pretty scary at the time. When I feel a super strong quick come up i always get a bit paranoid about my dosing, sometimes i write it down in case things get confusing.


2c-P is probably my favourite 2c, it's kind of like a longer, better 2c-e IMO.

I don't see this mentioned much or at all (maybe i haven't found it yet) but there needs to be some HR info on liquid storage and evaporation. For example, you have 10mg in 5ml of water at 2mg/ml. If you store it improperly and even a tiny bit evaporates you could easily end up taking more than you would like.
 
Thou said:
I have a small sample of 2C-P coming and I don't know what to expect of it. I've ordered some MXE as well; not to sidetrack this thread too much, but I'd wonder the safety of combining the two in reasonable doses.

I think at this stage I wouldn't trust myself and would just lazily purchase ion exchange blotters even though there's a bit of a markup. I know on quite a few of these forums they are starting to take NBOME compounds VERY seriously and banning the open sale of them fearing media exposure of accidental injuries, etc. NBOME goes down, then MXE, 4FA etc all get taken down. I like them and even though I know other analogues yet to be imagined would provide interesting experiences as well, these are the ones that I enjoy the most. /rant.

It's funny, my whole life I've evolved right alongside the rapidly devloping drug market, sampling all of the fancy little powders and white droppers and compacted spansules of the "next" drug. It's a lovely thing to think, I started 12 years ago with psilocybin and AMT, then LSD, then the 2c-family, never the doxxx family but still always was an option, and now 9 years later we've got analogues for every interesting class of drugs it seems. MXE for example, assuming it doesn't cause medical complications, I find more viable and useful for introspection and cleansing than ketamine, as it comes on very slow and lasts the perfect amount of time (just between dxm and ketamine, 2.5-3 hours). And I used to WORSHIP ketamine, so an improvement such as MXE (for me, at least I realize this is subjective), is a perfect example of outwhitting the shits.

We're chemists, we've got ours and fuck you. Legislate all you like our scientific minds and the obvious demand for something worthy and persistantly useful in dissolving boundaries of all kinds will prevail at such rapid speeds you'll be eternally fighting a war you can't possibly win. Politicians love those kinds of things, something ongoing and repetitive, something evil to fight albeit imaginary to take our minds off of the fact that the proletariat has been hoodwinked into a made-up, materialistic, valueless culture jam-full of sociopathic, opportunistic greed-heads waiting to fuck you for a dollar.

God bless those chemists and their alchemical cult of freaks that keep the dream alive.
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Wow, well. Good read man.
 
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