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25i-NBOMe solubility

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floridarcs

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I have browsed bluelight as a guest for many months trying to figure out the answer to this question, if i were to plan to lay 25i-nbome onto blotter paper, no i dont plan to sell it as lsd, no i dont plan to distribute it at all, its purely for storage and ease of dosage dosage purposes, and i had a dropper that got exactly 27 drops per ml of fluid, i need to know which solvent i could use to dissolve at least 25mg+ of 25i-nbome per ml so i could efficiently transfer it to blotters. i would appreciate any useful data on the subject. thanks :)
 
stardust.hero said:
[NBOMe Subthread] Laying Blotter

This has already been covered in a few threads.

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thanks man, and i know ive read that thread 30 times man, its not helpful to me all of them are tlaking about things like 1mg per ml and stuff, and most of it has responses like "oh you dont have enough to lay blotter" when I DO have enough to lay blotter, i will not be laying less than a gram at a time. i just wish somebody could give a straightforward answer to my question, what solvent could i use to dissolve 25mg+ of 25i into each ml.
 
The thread wasn't closed so you could have posted the question in there to avoid confusion in 2 threads. Having information in one place is useful ;).

I'm sure someone will come along and answer your question...
 
depends on whether you have the freebase or a salt.

if you have a salt (HCl) try ethanol (Everclear, needs to be 95%, 151 is unacceptable - too much water), Cayman sez that will dissolve 20mg/ml, possibly more if you warm it. You might be able to use methanol, or isopropanol, too, but i can't find published solubility data.

If you have the freebase, try e.g. acetone.
 
Or don't use a dropper. The only reason he wants to make sure of such a high solubility is because he wants 1mg per drop from his dropper, which I assume he will use to lay each blotter one at a time.

I don't have any blotter here to test, nor have I done it in the past, but based on my tests with little pieces of paper towel I would imagine a blotter to hold upwards of .1ml without much issue.

I know I didn't help you much in the other thread TS, but use an insulin syringe so that you're not required to get such a high concentration. This is how I am going to lay some for myself personally. Isopropanol will be my solvent. Insulin syringes are dirt cheap and can be had at any pharmacy and allow for much more accurate dosing than relying on drops from a dropper.
 
hm, maybe in this hypothetical situation i am underestimating the absorption of the blotter paper. the reason i would want a really high concentration is so i get as accurate of a dose on each tab as possible, and i feel like not saturating each tab to its fullest would be the best way to achieve this. i could be totally wrong tho. is the method in which you completely saturate the entire sheet in solution accurate enough for rcs?
 
You probably won't like this answer, but the reason you can't find information on how to easily lay blotter is because it can't reliably be done by amateurs to the accuracy that you would need for NBOMes. People get away with laying LSD blotter at home because it has a high therapeutic ratio and if you accidentally make one part of the sheet 5-10x stronger than the rest, it's unlikely to cause a medical emergency for anybody who takes it. The same can't be said for NBOMes.
 
zn13bt said:
You probably won't like this answer, but the reason you can't find information on how to easily lay blotter is because it can't reliably be done by amateurs to the accuracy that you would need for NBOMes. People get away with laying LSD blotter at home because it has a high therapeutic ratio and if you accidentally make one part of the sheet 5-10x stronger than the rest, it's unlikely to cause a medical emergency for anybody who takes it. The same can't be said for NBOMes.
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so how is it done? theres no way all these online rc vendors are laying their tabs with a micropipette. i dont realistically see something bad happening from unevenly laid tabs with the saturation method where you dip the entire thing in solution because if the entire thing is saturated then each piece has the same amount of solution, and i doubt any of them would have the capability to absorb 3-5 times the intended amount. maybe 1.2-1.7 times as much but i just dont see it becoming a danger. however thats why im here, to determine whether or not there is a REAL danger, as in risk of causing adverse health effects when researched, and if there is how do i minimize/ eliminate those risks.
 
I'm not a vendor and I don't distribute these materials, so I don't know how it's done. It's easy enough for my own purposes to measure out a single dose at a time using liquid measurement. From what I can tell from the blotter laying threads, when doing an entire sheet at a time quality control can be a big problem. NBOMes are very stable in powder form so saying you need to do it for storage or whatever is bullshit.
 
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