(25i-NBOMe/1500ug) First Time: Taste of Insanity

[weadazoid]

yeah..... the studies in the 90's sugested Exstacy causes bubbles to form in the brain. Abuse does cause some seratonin issues, but to outright say MDMA alone and just a handful of doses could cause brain damage to all users is clearly an overblown statement. I have taken ALOT of E in my day, and fairly heavy doses at times, I can still find happyness my own way. and IMO NBOMe's generate a better mental and body euphoria then E, bases on the comparison of 1 mg of the 25I to 100 mg of MDMA.

In 1996 I introduced this girl to MDMA and she loved it, but she actually belived due to the propaganda that it was way more dangerous then LSD and Mushrooms. Then she took it and couldn't get over just how increadible and clear headed she was.

HR that we provide on BL is pretty damn good. If idiots try to eyeball this shit or take a label on a bag for weight at face value then they have not done enough homework on this subject.

I do agree though that this should not be laid on blotter and sold as LSD. It should be sold as what it is. clearly there is much more risk with an NBOMe at taking 3 tabs then one may find with LSD. People should just be honest about what they have.

 

[PurpleKush1]

yeah..... the studies in the 90's sugested Exstacy causes bubbles to form in the brain. Abuse does cause some seratonin issues, but to outright say MDMA alone and just a handful of doses could cause brain damage to all users is clearly an overblown statement. I have taken ALOT of E in my day, and fairly heavy doses at times, I can still find happyness my own way. and IMO NBOMe's generate a better mental and body euphoria then E, bases on the comparison of 1 mg of the 25I to 100 mg of MDMA.

In 1996 I introduced this girl to MDMA and she loved it, but she actually belived due to the propaganda that it was way more dangerous then LSD and Mushrooms. Then she took it and couldn't get over just how increadible and clear headed she was.

HR that we provide on BL is pretty damn good. If idiots try to eyeball this shit or take a label on a bag for weight at face value then they have not done enough homework on this subject.

I do agree though that this should not be laid on blotter and sold as LSD. It should be sold as what it is. clearly there is much more risk with an NBOMe at taking 3 tabs then one may find with LSD. People should just be honest about what they have.

Al the myths about E are complete bullshit. But it can do some pretty bad damage if abused. MEntally i mean, not really physically. When i was 16 i ate Mdma capsules everyday for 2 weeks. Im 19 now and i still have some issues that were a direct result of that, intense anger,shifting emotions,depressive feeling from time to time,etc. And everytime i did Mdma afterwards was lacking, no euphoria or anything, just a weird headspace and generally im fucked feeling which led me to drink myself to blackout because it sucked. I have a friend who is completly mentally unstable, since the same age too, except he would eat 2-3 rolls in the morning just for the fuck of it. If not abused Mdma is generally safe,but still, i can do meth,coke,oxy,ketamine,2c-b once a month and not have any change or negative shit present, whereas if i do Mdma once a month it will detain on mybehavior. But honestly NBOME just seems like a suckass chemical,wonder why it was inventend. And i really dont think its amore euphoric and happy high than mdma. my .02

 

[exists]

I do agree though that this should not be laid on blotter and sold as LSD. It should be sold as what it is. clearly there is much more risk with an NBOMe at taking 3 tabs then one may find with LSD. People should just be honest about what they have.

Right, NBOMe drugs should not in any way become confused with LSD. It has become a custom for LSD to be laid on blotter, and it's what we expect. But I see a chance for Bluelighter's to develop a new custom, one for new drugs.

So here's a question for everyone: what kind new substrate/medium should be used for NBOMEs? It would have to be something appropriate for these compounds, something that lasts awhile, and something iconic. (Has this already been discussed elsewhere?)

 

[PurpleKush1]

Right, NBOMe drugs should not in any way become confused with LSD. It has become a custom for LSD to be laid on blotter, and it's what we expect. But I see a chance for Bluelighter's to develop a new custom, one for new drugs.

So here's a question for everyone: what kind new substrate/medium should be used for NBOMEs? It would have to be something appropriate for these compounds, something that lasts awhile, and something iconic. (Has this already been discussed elsewhere?)

I see what your saying,and i understand you. Im all for new drugs too,if they have some potential and are not too dangerous. Like let say PMA and 4-MTA do not fall into that categoery,i ve yet to see someone who likes pma lol. My opinion on NBOME is that it should be eradicated. But to answer your question, in my opinion again, a very precise mg scale and a rolled up bill/cut straw. THere would be less risks than with blotter IMO. But then again comke in mind the people that ()wanna get higher than dem satellites brah() and that will treat it like its coke or something. ANd will end up dying or having a helluva bad time. I think if NBOME should be accepted, it should be used only by responsible people. But like i said, i think ti shouldnt be used at all. There are far better substances for the effects of NBOME. Want to trip? LSD,Psycolicbin, 2c-x,mescaline, etc. Want the body high and euphoria? MDMA,opiates,shit even good ganj get can give a helluva of a body high. I simply think that its benefits (which are very few), do not outweigh the negative. Now this is my opinion,i dont impose it on anyone and id like to hear what are other peoples opinions.

 

[exists]

^ The point is to make a potentially dangerous drug easily distinguishable from safer psychedelics. It isn't very helpful to just tell people not to use NBOMe compounds, since they will anyway. Why not develop a simple, yet unique solution which all (read: at-home, DIY-type) distributors can readily adopt?

 

[Deinonychus]

^ The point is to make a potentially dangerous drug easily distinguishable from safer psychedelics. It isn't very helpful to just tell people not to use NBOMe compounds, since they will anyway. Why not develop a simple, yet unique solution which all (read: at-home, DIY-type) distributors can readily adopt?

Such as?

Don't get me wrong, I totally agree with your argument. People *will* use NBOMes, that cat is very much out of the bag, and it would be wonderful to have a specific way to package / administer the stuff that is unique to the NBOMe series, or at least not easily confused with blotter acid.

But off of the top of my head I can't think of any specific method of distribution that meets your criteria for being handy, iconic, safe, etc. There's always liquid, I've seen the 2C-X series distributed here in Chicago as colored water in vials, with a different color for each compound. I don't see anything else plausible besides blotter and liquid that isn't powder, with its associated risks. And even if something was devised to fit the criteria, I don't know how you'd enforce it on a grey market product, especially since there are scumbags out there that *want* to be able to pass it off as acid.

So again, I'm not trying to knock your idea at all, I'm just wondering if you had an idea yourself as to what sort of alternative form of distribution media would be best. Definitely an interesting concept though, and certainly worthy of further discussion!

EDIT: Personally, I'm in favor of keeping blotter, and using professionally lain blotter wherever possible in lieu of powder. Those with the proper skills and equipment I'm sure could still ferret out some powder if they wanted it. But the key is that blotter should have '25X' or 'NBOMe' or both (double sides perhaps?) actually printed on the paper instead of a trippy design. That way you know not only that it is definitely not acid, but you'd also know even specifically which MBOMe it was.

 

[exists]

I really don't have many ideas, I just wanted to get more people (esp. those in a position to do something about it) thinking of solutions.

The idea of printing blotter with the chemical name is worth pursuing.

I've heard of dry alphabet soup being laced with acid, so maybe the letters "N," "B," "O," "M," "E," "C," "I," etc. could be used? Not sure how good a carrier dry noodles really are, though.

Who knows how long NBOMes will remain legal, anyway? After they are banned, why even mess with them anymore when most people would prefer actual LSD?