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25B-NBOMe warning; bad-trip/non-fatal overdose 1000ug.

thizzkid

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Im writing this thread as a warning of sorts for those wanting to venture into the world of RC's. In this world of hit or miss everyone needs to be ready to expect the unexpected and understand that what youre doing carries very real risks. This is an example of a non-fatal overdose in the sense that the dose given was far more than what would have been pleasurable and lead to less than positive results in that given individual. Its important to remember that what is a reasonable dose for someone can be an extreme dose for another person, particularly with ultra-potent psychadelics like the NBOMe family, and as such I am labeling this experience as an overdose. That being said, allow me to continue with the story;

Towards the end of the schoolyear my highschool always does a Disneyland trip for all of the graduating seniors and on this trip its not uncommon that the experienced drug users take psychadelic drugs for both their long lasting quality and since smoking weed on a trip like that is way to sketchy. Having had a stash of misc. psychadelic drugs from 25i, 25c, & 25b-NBOMe, 2cb, e, and i. Mdma, mda, to lsd, etc, that my friend (who Ill call A for security) and I have been experimenting with on and off for the past several months at different dosages of each and in combinations with one another, me and A decided that we were of course going to trip there! Our 3rd friend (B) who had also been experiementing out of mine and A's stash, but to a much lesser degree, also wanted to trip and we were all planning on having a wonderful time, not having to worry anout the drive there (we were taking a charter bus) and then enjoying the magic kingdom tripping balls. Our plan was set and it was time to decide the drugs were going to take.
A and I had just gotten a shipment of 25B-NBOMe tabs dosed at 1000ug each and having not tried it, but having had plenty of psychadelic experience, particulary with 25i and 25c-NBOMe, A and I decided that 25b-NBOMe was deffinately on the list. B had also had experience with both 25i and 25c prior to this, and enjoyed both immensely. However, when A and I have tripped with B in the past weve alwys noticed an acute sensitivity to psychadelics. (ie: 150ug LSD puts him where it would take 400ug to put me, given i have a strong psychadelic tolerance from consistent tripping the past months) still though, we fifured based on his previous ability to handle the NBOMe family well we decided he should have no problem with 25b...So the plan was this;
1000ug 25b-nbome sublingual to start the day and trip until sunset, where would each take an mdma/mda capsule since we figured the trip would be calming down.

So as the bus pulled up to the parking lot, each of us took our tabs.

T+00:15
Already starting to trip, notably quick. All 3 of us are waiting in line for the tram that goes from the parking lot to the park entrance and breathing patterns as well as a steong head high are present. No pronounced visuals (such as tracers, etc)

T+00:30
Weve made it through the security checkpoint with our mdxx capsules and are now proceeding through the park entrance. While in line for this, each of the three of us turn to eachother and note tbat were each quite high. All 3 of us agree that the first thing to do is get a soda or anything flavored to get the taste of the NBOMe out of our mouths. At this point in time were all having a great time and have a lot of excitement for the day to come and the eveneing as well.

T+00:50
After having bought a 4$ sprite and cleansed each of our mouths of the chemical NBOMe taste, we quickly moved to go to space mountain before the lines got busy, only to find that the ride was closed which was a big bummer, as all of us knew how awesome that would be for tripping. (For anyone whos ridden space mountain, you know what im talking about when i say that that is one fucking psychadelic ride!! Stars and wormholes and colorful lights in a mostly pitch black enviornment make it amazingly fun and trippy) As a back up we decide to go to the star tours ride, which isnt far from space mountain inside the park, and that was great fun and a relatively short line. By the end of all of this all 3 of us are having an amazing time, however B is beggining to show the normal signs of his sensitivity to psychadelics in that he was asking kinda stupid questions and making obvious or even false statements, but this is not uncommon for him in his tripping state, so me and A dont note it as something out of the ordinary at all.

T+01:25
After having an awesome time on star tours, we decide to check if space mountain is open now and it is!! Without hesitation we each decide the 45minute wait was worth it and rush for our spots. Throughout the wait in this line is the first signs of where things begin to go weird...
For the first 20 minutes of waiting, everythin is normal and as was before; all 3 of us express excitement forthe day ahead (as it is still only about 10:30 or 11:00AM at this point in time). During this 20 minutes B's silly and occasionally non-sensical observations made while tripping continue, again raising no kind of alarm in A or I as it is normal of B when tripping. However, i remember at one point, about 30 minutez into the line, B began making less sense, but still enough sense that what he was saying was not strange enough for me to think he was acting weird. However i first noted an irregularity in his behavior when about 35min into the line, out of nowhere, he began asking me and A if we were OK, to which we replies "ya man, are you ok?"
And he kept saying "yes" but something was obviously not ok because he kept asking. After bringing this up to him he swore to me he was ok, but at this point was deffinately acting strange.

T+02:00
As were in sight of the loading place to get on space mountain, all 3 of us begin to get excited, and talk amongst eachother about how awesome the ride and day will be. Then, B kept repeating how glad he was to be at disneyland, but was getting extremely excited and actually began jumping up and down like an excited child (very uncharacteristic of him) and when he did this excited jump, he bumped into a man who was standing in front of us, and quickly appologized. After seeing that happen, i knew he was on a level higher than hes used to being and if he kept up the uncontrollable behavior that we were either going to get caught or kicked out, so i pulled him aside and told him hes gotta chill out. He couldnt realize why, so i explained that he bumped a guy. Appraently he had forgotten he had bumped somebody, and felt the need to go appologize (even though he already had) and he ran off ahead to do that, but me, knowing how high B gets on psychadelics, quickly stopped him and told him the guy really doesnt care it happened, but he already thinks were weird as it is, and since were tripping to just leave it alone...his concious however wouldnt allow that. (as will be explained later) all 3 of us got through the rest of the line and B had seemingly forgotten about the man hed bumped, but after having gotten off the ride (which was fucking amazing tripping btw:p) he immediately asked about the man;
"I wonder if that guy is alright" he said.
At first me and A werent sure what he was talking about but then we remembered the man hed bumped and reminded B that it wasnt significant at all and he bought that for a short while. We each decided that the intensity of indiana jones would be fun and we decided to head off to that as the next stop.

T+02:20
We finally get to indiana jones and take our place in line. At this point B continues to ask me and A if were OK, and we keep getting the same answer which is getting frustrating and annoying to both of us, but also worrysome because something is obviously up with B but everytime we ask him whats wrong he has nothing to tell us. Then he asks again "I wonder if that guy is alright" and me and A now knowing what hes talking about remind him a 3rd time and then a 4th time that the man doesnt care.

T+02:40
After 15 minutes of standing in line and listening to B repeat these questions, his tone of voice and persona began to become panicked, and it was obvious to me and A that he had stopped enjoying himself and was caught some kind of mind-loop. He kept asking more and more and began to look scared even. He seemed convinced he had killed the man he bumped or something and began to bite his fist the way someone does when they are panicked or shocked by something. Judging by his discomfort woth the current situation, A and I decide we need to get him out of line and to somewhere quiet and calm where he can calm down. We were trying to get out of the indiana jones line (if youve been to dismeyland you know how creepy the decorations for this can potentially be when tripping, which was a horrible enviornment for someone in B's state) and we couldnt seem to find our way out. This just added panic to B's mind and he began to cry out of what seemed to be a combination of guilt, fear, anxitey, etc. We finally found the way out of the confusing area, but it wasnt easy, and on the way B kept beggining to run off and i had to shout out to him and physically pull him back to keep him from running away, and it eventually got to the point where i just grabbed his hand to keep him close. His grip was extremley strong which dint suprise me seeing as how much he was freaking out. At this point it seemed like things would only get worse.

T+03:00-T+03:30
After making it out of the indiana jones themed maze, still needing to hold B's hand to keep him from running off, we find a relatively calm and quite spot in the shade to sit and try to calm him down (a hard thing to find in disneyland) he still keeps asking me and A if were ok, and keeps asking about the man he bunped, still sure that hed gravely injured him. His crying turns franticly worse and he keeps asking me and A for water. All we have is a small bottle so after he quickly chugs the whole thing, i run off to go get more water. The closest water source was a bathroom about a 2 minute walk/jog from the place were sitting, so i ran off, leaving A to supervise B as i filled up the bottle. When i got back about 5 minutes later with the full water, B was on the phone with someone but was still crying franticly and didnt look any better. I looked to A and asked who it was to find out it was his girlfriend (who A and I are also good friends with). When he saw that i had water he set the phone down immediately and began chugging again. He seemed like he though he was gunna die of dehydration, but i also knew i he kept drinking like that he was gunna throw up. It seemed to bring him some kind of comfort though so i let him drink. As he chugged, i piked up the phone and his girlfriend was still on the line. At the same time i also crudely felt B's pulse and his eart rate wasnt much higher than anyone who was panicked would be, so that made me feel a little better that at least he wasnt going to have a heart attack. B's girlfriend was also familiar with B's sensitivity to psychadelics so was not 100% suprised, but was concerned none the less. After I explained to her what had happened thus far we thought of what the best option would be and ultimately decided that B couldnt stay at Disneyland the whole day or he would either hurt himself or get us caught by acting out so much.Not to mention he wa obviously having a miserable time. Since we came up on a bus however, our options to resolve the situation were slim. Fortunately B's girlfriend offered to come to the park and pick him up which seemed the only option to fix this problem, however our hometown is about an hour and a half away, so we still had a while before everything would be ok, and judging by B's behavior, staying where we were would not be concealed enough to calm him down, or keep attention away from us. Right after I finish talking about this plan with B's girlfriend, B throws up all the water hes been chugging in a clear, vomitty mess. At this point i tell B's girlfriend that plan sounds great and hang up the phone and A and I decide we need another place NOW, but there is absolutely no private areas in Disneyland aside from the bathroom stalls; so thats where we headed. B was still crying at this point and still asking about the man hed bumped, and A and I have to escort him with his arms around our shoulder, through the crowds of disneyland on a rather long walk to the nearest bathroom trying to avoid strange looks from passerby and park security alike. We finally make it into the bathroom and all 3 of us squeeze into the handicapped stall, knowing were probably gunna be there for a while. At this point B is still freaking out and begins hyperventalating which stirs fear in me for his physical safety. Eventually after calming him down to the point where he has stopped crying (about 5-10min) we get him to take a seat next to the toilet in case he were to throw up again.

T+04:00
About 20minutes have gone by since we got into the bathroom and A and I have finally gotten B to comepletly calm down, although he is still extremely delerious and mostly unresponsive, but concious. He finally seems to have forgotten about the man he bumped and is now slumpped with his back against the wall staring at nothing. A and I sit here watching for the next hour, during which time, not much else changes. B occasionally changes position slightly but in many of the positions he ends up in, one limb, unsually an arm would be extended and stiff, sort of as if he had his hand extended waiting for someone to shake it, but his fingers were curled. One of the times he was like this, he began drooling on himself. Now Ive read about people drooling on themselves but only when you see it in person and have to wipe their lips for them do you realize how gone someone in need of that kid of help realy is. It was chilling and horrifying to say the least. At that point I was certain my day would end in either a hospital or a police station. He seemed calmer but was not really recovering. A's phone buzzes and its a txt from B's girlfriend; shes about 20 minutes away from the park. 20 minutes didnt seem like enough time for B to get back to a crowd-mingling level, but its all we got. I tell B the plan and that his girlfriend is coming to pick him up, and he manages to nodd in response. A and I begin planning how were going to get him through the crowd and out of the park safely, and we come up with a plan that seems like it will work. After waiting for the txt from B's girlfriend that she was there, A and I try and help B stand up, but he cant seem to support his weight at first, kind of like how an astronaughts muscles atrophy from lack of use in space, his muscles seemed to have stopped working from being slumped for an hour and a half. After 2 more tries he can finally stand, and, while delerious still, is responsive when I ask him to walk back and forth a little bit to make sure his balance looks normal for the walk to the front gate. He still has a slow, robotic-like walk that obviously looks like somethings wrong with him, but A and I decide that thats the best we can do right now, and we begin the walk to the entrance/exit. After slowly making our way to the gate, with B still sort of staring off at nothing, but managing to walk with us, we get our hands stampped and walk out of the park, and go to meet his girlfriend.

T+04:30/Overview
We finally meet up and upon seeing B, his girlfriend ran up and gave him a huge hug and thanked us for taking care of him as we thanke her for giving us a plan B out of the mishap.
That reunion was one the biggest "whew that was close" moments of life. For an hour I was sure that day would end in the ER or police station but by some blessing of luck, the RC world let my friends and I off with a haunting warning of what it can really do.The story still cant be put into words from B's perspective. Whether its that he cant remember some parts or other parts are simply incomprehensible, it is without a doubt that that experience changed his life (and mine and A's) forever.

After that handoff, me and A took a minute to soak in what had just transpired, and how close of a call it had really been, and decide that, having escaped that delema, that we were still going to finish our night the way wed planned.

T+08:30
After getting the text from B and his Girlfriend that they had made it home safely, A and I decide that we werent tripping too hard anymore, and that it was time to move into final phase of our plans and we both pop our mdma/mda capsules to let them kickin just in time for the sunset. The rest of the fay from there was amazing as planned, but we couldnt help but still be shocked by what had happened, and even more shocked that everyone had made it out.

The moral of the story;
Drugs are fun, and RCs are fun, but they need to be handled with a high level of respect. What you think you know about something, or what you think you may know based on an experience with something similar (ie: 25i and 25c NBOMe) doesnt always translate to what will happen with a new chemical, and while you may come out the other end smiling when bad things like B's experience happen, that wont always be the case and your luck may not always be so kind. Know your body, know your chemical, know your mind.

Thanks for reading, and please, if you have any imput as to what could possibly have caused this or have had similar experiences with 25b-nbome, please pitch in your 2 cents.
Thanks again, and please take this experience to heart and e aware of the risks youre taking when venturing into the world of RC's.
-Nameste
 
Namaste thizzkid, great post - really good read haha.
Hate to say it but disneyland is really, really not the place to try psychedelic drugs that none of you had taken before, and a strong dose - such a bad idea! Well done for keeping your friend calm and out of trouble but wow you're lucky that it only hit one of you that hard.
As you said treat these drugs with respect. The NBOMe series are notoriously unpredictable in how they affect different people.
really hope your friend was OK in the end, would love to hear what his experience of this was!
 
I agree haha in retrospect It wasnt a great idea. But like I said, all 3 of us had had several past experiences with both 25I and 25C-nbome, and have done both of those in doses exceeding 1000ug so we figured the change to 25B wouldn't be too significant, and at least for me and A it wasn't. I guess that wasn't the case for B though...
nevertheless it was an experience Im glad to have had without anyone getting hurt, but I never wanna see someone like that again. Im glad A and I could salvage the day though after what had happened. And as for B's experience; well I've asked him several times to write something like this, but hes still working over what happened himself. Not suprising either, considering he seemed to be in another world.
 
Had the exact same thing happen to my group of friends while tripping at a state park. We took 1200ug of 25c each, and one friend became unresponsive and stuck in a thought loop, thinking we'd crashed on the way there, and he was dead. We thought we were going to end up in the park station or police station also, it was a miracle we got out like we did. We actually all did 6-apb on the end too, crazy how similar that part is. Apparently he had to relive every time him and his mates had ever gotten high together.... Crazy shit

After I've seen what nBOMEs can do, I am NEVER fucking with them again
 
So help me....you blame the 'RC' which has no intention or agenda...or the reckless tripper who takes twice the 'standard' dosage of an experimental drugs at an amusement park? I know what I blame. :) <3
 
Like I said, we had all tackled doses higher than this with NBOMe family before in both 25I and 25C without any kind of issue, so this didn't seem like it was that crazy of a thing. But yes you have a point that it wasnt thought through as well as it should have been, and thats exactly the reason I created this thread. Heres what I, and heres what happened; in order for people to avoid the same result, at least they know what not to do now right?
 
25c is such a beautiful chemical, yet 25i is the harshest most uncomfortable mind-fuck one can imagine. Thankfully everyone is okay. The NBOMes are ridiculously powerful chemicals; as you said, they need to be handled with respect. I love 25c (I compare it to LSD in my favorite experiences) but I am not psychedelically strong enough to handle 25i or, i suspect, 25b. I'm okay with never trying it though.
 
So help me....you blame the 'RC' which has no intention or agenda...or the reckless tripper who takes twice the 'standard' dosage of an experimental drugs at an amusement park? I know what I blame. :) <3
This, and you give someone whom you know is sensitive to psychs that high of a dose, from a family of chemicals that?
have been known to kill when used irresponsibly?

People always figure out that they need to be responsible only after something bad happens.
 
For the 3rd time, we had all been well acquainted with 25i and 25c nbome at doses up to 1.2mg and 1.5mg respectively, and no one had any kind of issue and even did this in a very public area as well. I expected him to act his normal weird tripping self, since he always gets a lill weird tripping, but the reasoning that this would be a reasonable dose for each of us stemmed from each of our past experiences with both of these NBOMes. Based on that me and A reasoned that, 1200ug of 25c or 1500ug of 25i SHOULD be stronger or at least even in strength to 1000ug 25B, so if anything it would be a normal to underwhelming trip and for me and A it was. It just didn't agree with B quite that way...

Oh also, 1000ug isnt exactly irresponsible in its own right. Thats also why I wrote this. After scourging the internet I cant find reports of a negative experience from a dose under 3mg or so. So the fact that B had such a bad reaction to a relatively standard dose is alarming because people take these kind of doses commonly, so thats why I thought it important to share my experience with adverse reactions, even when care is taken to dose within what you believe your comfortable dosage range is. If the fact that my having written this scares even one person away from taking or giving a dose to friend that is too high or dangerous, then I can sleep easy at night.

seriously though guys, obviously it was irresponsible in the sense that it couldve been thought out way way better. But telling me that doesnt help me, A or B at this point and it isnt helping any readers of the forum. Please try to stay away from the criticism unless its constructive and relevant. Ya i know ibad idea, I figured that out when B started crying, now can we please move on? Thanks
 
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I think this ought to be in TR, but otherwise: well written story of a close call indeed. NBOMes are scary stuff, really, but these things can happen on any psychedelic of course. I've tripped in amusement parks as well, but nowhere as busy as I imagine Disneyland is (instead, in the first Monday after the Winter holidays, with a snow covered winter themed fairy tale park. Awesome!) so I can imagine that claustrophobia and the need to act normal greatly influence some paranoia or anxiety that might already be present, especially if you're sensitive to psychedelics.

Anyway, how's B now? In one piece? Glad to hear you were able to act and think clearly under the circumstances and didn't panic yourselves.
 
For the 3rd time, we had all been well acquainted with 25i and 25c nbome at doses up to 1.2mg and 1.5mg respectively, and no one had any kind of issue and even did this in a very public area as well. I expected him to act his normal weird tripping self, since he always gets a lill weird tripping, but the reasoning that this would be a reasonable dose for each of us stemmed from each of our past experiences with both of these NBOMes. Based on that me and A reasoned that, 1200ug of 25c or 1500ug of 25i SHOULD be stronger or at least even in strength to 1000ug 25B, so if anything it would be a normal to underwhelming trip and for me and A it was. It just didn't agree with B quite that way...

Oh also, 1000ug isnt exactly irresponsible in its own right. Thats also why I wrote this. After scourging the internet I cant find reports of a negative experience from a dose under 3mg or so. So the fact that B had such a bad reaction to a relatively standard dose is alarming because people take these kind of doses commonly, so thats why I thought it important to share my experience with adverse reactions, even when care is taken to dose within what you believe your comfortable dosage range is. If the fact that my having written this scares even one person away from taking or giving a dose to friend that is too high or dangerous, then I can sleep easy at night.

seriously though guys, obviously it was irresponsible in the sense that it couldve been thought out way way better. But telling me that doesnt help me, A or B at this point and it isnt helping any readers of the forum. Please try to stay away from the criticism unless its constructive and relevant. Ya i know ibad idea, I figured that out when B started crying, now can we please move on? Thanks

Telling you how foolish you were is going to help all of you. Based on this experience, none of you are old enough, responsible or mature enough yet to have any business experimenting with powerful psychedelics. "But we did 25B and we were fine". 25C is an entirely different compound. You ought to have known that, when experimenting with a new compound, you have to start out with a very low dose to play it safe. Taking such a high dose you were just asking for trouble. You are so fucking lucky things didn't end very, very badly.

Oh also, 1000ug isnt exactly irresponsible in its own right.

You never tried that particular compound before. You can't just assume a standard dose is going to be safe the first time because you have absolutely no idea whatsoever how you will react to it. Very risky and irresponsible. You all should have tried this for the first time with a very small dose to gauge the potency and get a feel for the compound, make sure nothing terrible would happen, in a safe and controlled setting/environment, not take a standard or even larger dose on a fucking high school trip in fucking Disneyland for your very first time. You also knew that B has issue with psychedelics.

I hope you all stop dicking around with these substances until several years down the line when you hopefully start to show a little maturity and common sense. You keep trying to make excuses for yourself and your poor choices which could have ended catastrophically for your friend. It's really disappointing to see that you still can't man up to how foolish and reckless you were, you keep making excuses and trying to shirk the blame here rather than accepting the reality of the situation and trying to actually learn from it. What happened is you all got cocky because you thought you were 'experienced' enough with psychedelics. Cockiness can kill. Careful with that attitude.

Sorry to be harsh, but other people were trying to put it to you nicely and you still weren't getting it.
 
For the 3rd time, we had all been well acquainted with 25i and 25c nbome at doses up to 1.2mg and 1.5mg

While you see that the lesson is already learned....clearly it isn't. I know other BLers have made the point and I will as well. 25i and 25c are not the psychedelic you took. Why don't you get that? You experiences with 25i and 25c are irrelevant. Blers are only hammering home the point because you don't get it...and (for some of us at times when we are done stroking our egos ;) ) ...... helping you to get it is what we do. It is not the same as knowing what one brand of Whiskey does, then trying another. I won't even touch upon giving HIGHLY experimental drugs to other people...which may not be criminal, but it is BEYOND dangerous to life and therefore your line of thinking is dangerous to the lives of others. If the brow beating isn't helpful to you...then what exactly were you looking for when you posted this in the first place? Positive affirmations?

If you make a remake other than 'ok, I get it' then you don't get it.
 
While you see that the lesson is already learned....clearly it isn't. I know other BLers have made the point and I will as well. 25i and 25c are not the psychedelic you took. Why don't you get that? You experiences with 25i and 25c are irrelevant. Blers are only hammering home the point because you don't get it...and (for some of us at times when we are done stroking our egos ;) ) ...... helping you to get it is what we do. It is not the same as knowing what one brand of Whiskey does, then trying another. I won't even touch upon giving HIGHLY experimental drugs to other people...which may not be criminal, but it is BEYOND dangerous to life and therefore your line of thinking is dangerous to the lives of others. If the brow beating isn't helpful to you...then what exactly were you looking for when you posted this in the first place? Positive affirmations?

If you make a remake other than 'ok, I get it' then you don't get it.

Sigh* dude, that is exactly why i wrote this. I am ADMITTING to my stupidity, and putting thi on the internet for an example of what my line of thinking can do in terms of consequences. Now that ive learned my lesson, and at someone elses expense i moght add, my line of thinking will not be like tht any longer. You and i have the same point. I was an idiot.
 
Well man nobody was looking for you to call yourself names...just to learn the lesson.....and perhaps never endanger others with your actions. I don't think anybody really just wants you to admit you were stupid because lots of people call themselves stupid and engage in stupid actions the next day. To understand why you were 'stupid' and to hear that you know what is the right thing to do next time is why I went so far as to 'brow beat' you. To finalize......experience with one psychedelic (25I, 25C) does not mean you are experienced with another (25B)...and I think you get the rest. Lesson learned? Sweet. Welcome to BL.
 
It's not really about that, man. It's about just letting you know the errors in your thinking, so this doesn't happen another time. Just because you have some experience with two chemicals (25i & 25c) in the same family in around the same dosage range does not equal experience with another chemical in the same family (25b in your case) in that same dosage range. In conclusion the error was thinking 25i=25c=25b when, although related, have subtly different effect profiles and slightly different dosage ranges. IIRC 25b is slightly more potent out of those three, for example.
 
With halogenated NBOMes the potency from least to greatest is: 25I < 25B < 25C
While the intensity of the experience goes the opposite way: 25C < 25B < 25I
So that doesn't make it easy to guess how strongly a given dose of 25B will affect you if you've only had 25C and 25I before to compare with.

Also there are a lot of quality control issues with NBOMe blotters being sold nowadays, so even if they were sold as 1mg each, you or your friends could have gotten a lot more than that. Personally I never buy NBOMe blotters laid by someone else, instead I have it in powder form and use liquid measurement to lay a single dose on one piece of blotter when I want to dose. (Though I realize that could be harder for you to do if you're in high school and still living with your parents.)
 
Got it. Sorry to backlash. I hope in my story being published here, others can take this lesson and not have to learn it firsthand themselves. I appreciate the honesty from yall. The harshness is deserved and nescesary, but i still stand by the fact that this needs to be shared with everyone. With how little is known ablut the NBOMes every piece of info and every time an adverse reaction occurs, tey should be documented like this, so some kind of pattern can possibly be lined up as to the chemicals behavior, and however crude that conclusion may be, it becomes more accurate as we learn of more reactions like this. Anywho, if the experience that happened at disneylanf was a slap to the right cheek, then bluelights response to this story was a slap to the left, albeit well deserved. Thanks again for the honesty everyone.
 
Yeaaa thats exactly the problem. All inhabe too is a jewels mg scale so I dont even trust that for volumetric measurement, ntm the equipment nescesary would absolutlely raise some questions with mom an pops haha.
 
Yeah.... I would not trust Blotters for one second not based on what I have ready over the past few months. General rule for harm reduction is take a half a hit first, just to protect yourself.
 
It is important that you publish your story....I am glad you were brave enough to do it....it IS a good lesson to read.

Ok, I must say it.....you should not be doing things in the home of mom and pops if they do not approve. I was 15 when I started using psychedelics, so I am not going to suggest you are too young....and I know in Gabon where iboga grows....people of all ages eat it (though not necessarily at a psychedelic dosage)....either way, age aside you may want to remember to respect those who shelter you. No brow beating here, just suggesting something I felt I should. I mean it with all the love I can offer.
 
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