2016 trump presidency thread

[Droppersneck]

q.e.d.

alasdair

Not really. You originally said it was "any man which they disagree with" or that it's necessarily derogatory. I'd say, no more so than any specific label. Lindsey graham is a cuck and I agree with him on a lot.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Except those words are actually used in line with their definitions. Just because it offends you being called out and told it like it is doesn't make it any less true. On the other hand, nonsense like "sjw" and "snowflake" never meant anything to begin with and still can't be defined by anyone as anything but "somebody who disagrees with the person calling somebody else this".

Nah, I've been called racist many times for criticizing BHO's policies. I've also been called a misogynist for talking negatively about 1 particular women. It doesn't offend me, it's just annoying. Anyone who is against illegal immigrants and open borders gets called a fascist or xenophobe, blah blah blah lol
It's a standard tactic liberals have been using for a long time to try and silence the opposition. Character assassination is their main strategy. Which is why they get pissed when DT stands up to the media. He completely undermines their reputation.

 

[tathra]

It's a standard tactic liberals have been using for a long time to try and silence the opposition. Character assassination is their main strategy.

Oh beautiful irony

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

Nah, I've been called racist many times for criticizing BHO's policies.

Why do you call him Barrack Hussein Obama? There is no reason for doing that other than being a racist. People see through your guise.

 

[Droppersneck]

I love when people say something is a perfect irony, yet there is no clear irony, unless explained by the poster. It's when you know they have shot all the bullets, and are now throwing the gun at you.

 

[socko]

So, a "cuck" is a cuckold if not literally, at least in spirit. His wife wears the pants and tells him what he is allowed to do.

 

[Jabberwocky]

Oh beautiful irony

The left attack an institution and try to force it into submission until it converts to their ideology - governments, the EU, the press, Hollywood, religions (look at the Roman Catholic church, Pope Benedict was scammed and bullied into resigning to bring in liberal Pope Francis).

Why do you call him Barrack Hussein Obama? There is no reason for doing that other than being a racist. People see through your guise.

Because that's his name. If you think it's racist to say Hussein, then you are probably racist.

 

[Escher's Waterfall]

So, a "cuck" is a cuckold if not literally, at least in spirit. His wife wears the pants and tells him what he is allowed to do.

I see it more of being a sign of a messed up view of women. Kind of like the whole PUA.

Probably a self-esteem issue as well. Also kind of like the whole PUA.

It's trying to turn a pathetic life into a virtue.

 

[cashfl0w_d0nkey]

Because that's his name. If you think it's racist to say Hussein, then you are probably racist.

See, this is exactly what I mean. You think that you can fool people into thinking that you are not saying Hussein out of spite, but it is absolutely clear to everyone else that this comes from a place of hate. Case in point: Look at Barack Obama's wiki entry on Wikipedia vs. Conservapedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Barack_Obama

http://www.conservapedia.com/Barack_Hussein_Obama

 

[Yourbaker]

There is a lot of ad hominem and just bashing happening. I do think both of our 'sides' are doing it. For example it's OK to say what23 has some bigoted ideas but to judge him as a bigot really requires he outs himself by declaring he is a bigot. One racial prejudiced idea might be bigoted, when we call him bigoted it triggers a different view of him in the mind of each reader.

A better example would be I am gay, I don't just have some gay ideas, I'm not someone who sympathizers with gay people. To call me derogatory gay slurs becomes pointless, because I am. If I was struggling with my sexuality being called a snowflake would bother me. The act of name calling, only brings in emotion when the party being judged actually feels the judgement. Any judgement people wish to bring at me for being gay doesn't affect me. So I'm ok with terms like snowflake, it doesn't represent me in anyway but it tells me volumes about my judge.

Reading the name calling, it's difficult to stay calm and not tell people they are dumber than my last fart. (If you feel victimized by that statement reread the last paragraph). It really would do no good at providing them a perspective they don't have. The minute I start judging with blanket terms I can see that I have lost the argument and beyond that, I will have failed at bringing anything relevant to the table.

I could care less what I get called for my opinions or beliefs, I live in a world full of children, most have only grown up in a tiny area of their life and I'm one of them. Racial prejudice I have overcome, I was not always as certain in my beliefs as I am now. I used to fear others and thought we should close our borders. Change, is a slow process, being yelled at and called racist while I was becoming very non racist didn't help.

To help put this into perspective, I grew up in a Mennonite community. Some people will change their opinion of me based on that single word from my past. It was easier to overcome the unintentionally misguided beliefs I was trained in because I was gay. If I wasn't gay I may have been lost to a horrifying world of believing in anything I was told. Being gay, showed me a single lie I was taught and gave me a thread to pull on. I believe I made it out. Name calling never helped. Using it here isn't helping either.

Insulting or name calling third parties, 'bunch of snowflakes rioting'. Is trolling for victims. Realizing your racial or religious paranoia, understanding you must be the author of your beliefs and fearlessly experiencing the world you are in would be my advice, if you feel under equipped to compete with others.

 

[alasdairm]

Because that's his name. If you think it's racist to say Hussein, then you are probably racist.

come on, ryan. be a person. we both know the charade which you're enacting here. let's drop the disingenuousness?

alasdair

 

[consumer]

Trump has pissed off a lot of people in Australia for his frankly disgusting bully boy treatment of a long time ally.

His idea of diplomacy is quite bizaare. A lot of people think its time to rethink our relationship with the USA. China is our main trading partner. America does fuck all for our country apart from dragging us into pointless wars they inevitably lose.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

Easily my favorite trump tweet is "hopefully we never find life on another planet, bc the United States will start sending them money"

Because you and Donny boy realise that the "life" will not constitute human life and that "money" will have no meaning? I'm right aren't I? You both realise the inherent pathos in imagining such an hypothesis?

 

[swilow]

Trump has pissed off a lot of people in Australia for his frankly disgusting bully boy treatment of a long time ally.

His idea of diplomacy is quite bizaare. A lot of people think its time to rethink our relationship with the USA. China is our main trading partner. America does fuck all for our country apart from dragging us into pointless wars they inevitably lose.

Exactly. Australians- men and women- have died for what amounts to American political goals in Korea, Vietnam, Iraq 1 and 2, Afghanistan, etc. We have helped in many pointless wars and have yet to actually call on the US to return the favour. Australia is owed IMO. Not that this means I agree with the refugee swap; I think its still punitive to forbid people from entering Australia based on how they attempted to arrive; but it does not suprise me that Trump not only basically abused Malcolm Turnbull, he made comments that suggested he was not going to fulfil the obligation placed on him when the US government agreed to a refugee swap. That is not how you treat a faithful and reliable ally. It is how you might treat an unimportant servant or guard dog. I really wish the Aus govt would stand up to this prick, I am pleased with some of the remarks but of course they are only emerging from the Labour Party. We don't need to get pushed around by this blowhard and his falling nation; as you say, America does not represent all that much value to Australia in comparison with other trading partners.

I've never been convinced that the US would intervene if Australia was in a military conflict. I do not think we represent enough value to the US and I think this is borne out by the angry and dismissive way Trump spoke to the Australian PM. You do not speak to your allies and friends like that.

But, fuck Trump.

Mr Trump followed up his comments with some affectionate words towards Australia, telling a Washington function that: "I have a lot of respect for Australia, I love Australia as a country — but we have a problem."

He urged people not to "worry" about the "tough" phone calls he was having with world leaders.

"A lot of countries are taking advantage of us. Terribly taking advantage of us," he said.

from: HERE.

Bullshit. Utter bullshit. How have Australia taken advantage of the United fucking States? When is the last time a US soldier died in war started by the American military industrial tyranny? I'd love for it to be quanitied how America have been taken advantage off and yet is still the most wealthy nation to ever exist. That seems like a huge dichotomy.


Re: phonecall. Trump is a known bully, his subsequent tweets are similar in their impulsive content to the ones he spits out when he's angry/upset. There is no doubt for me that the conversation was aggressive. His catchcry of 'fake news' is seriously getting tiresome.

No holds are barred when fake news is a thing. If we are going to say that everything we do not agree with is a lie, we are absolutely fucked.

 

[consumer]

It was interesting to see McCain and others speak out about Trumps treatment of Australia. It really is an insult.

I doubt the US would intervene if say Indonesia invaded Australia ( i dont think that would ever happen just an example )

We have no oil so why would they bother. If we are looked at as a faithful lap dog then its time to close Pine Gap, stop US boats docking here and get rid of the marines in Darwin. Oh and get out of that F35 contract for overpriced planes that dont fucking work.

If this is how they treat allies then its no wonder America is the most hated country in the world. Its power is crumbling. China is on the rise and will be the dominant world power if it already isn't both military wise and economically. With China holding most of Americas debt it doesn't even need to take military action. It could cause economic collapse at the stroke of a pen.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

With China holding most of Americas debt it doesn't even need to take military action. It could cause economic collapse at the stroke of a pen.

Strike that pen.

 

[swilow]

And if the pen struck, I wonder what the flow-on effect would be. Certainly, now would be the best time in recent history for the US to fail given its ever decreasing power and influence.

There would be problems I'm sure.

 

[StoneHappyMonday]

And if the pen struck, I wonder what the flow-on effect would be.

Well, in insignificant BL terms, it would at least take away the presumed right of entitlement some here have. And, I have to be honest, I would LOL my fucking head off.

 

[consumer]

With the rise in power of the religious right in the form of Pense surely God will step in, possibly send back Noah to gather the animals two by two and flood all those pesky Muslims and Chinese to Make America Great Again.

 

[Yourbaker]

I have a fear of Pence. Trump I can lol about and make plans to help out friends fleeing the US. Pence as POTUS is somewhere I fear looking.