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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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I can't wait for Trump supporters on bluelight to realise he thinks your'e scum. He's not on the side of drug using criminals, that's for sure.

Certainly I hope most of us don't take this as a monomaniacal single identity. Especially as relates to marijuana, nobody likes a pothead. Personally I hope he rolls back the mottled Federal approach to dealing with marijuana, if only to taste the salt in smug "legal state" tears. That's a sideshow. Ordinarily I'd see this as a positive State's rights issue, but it's not, because if a State were to otherwise not enforce provisions of the Controlled Substance Act, that would go no where, and it's a legitimate "commerce-clause" issue, anyway, as we can see by the unfortunate impact on marijuana markets in non-legal States. As far as Hillary Clinton or any other plausible candidate would be easier on serious drugs is insane, unless they were Black and it could be used as a racial wedge, as it was under Obama.

Now, the crack cocaine sentencing laws were ridiculous, terrible laws, but let's keep in mind that the "reform" of the ratio was 1:100 → 1:18, not to equity; half an order of magnitude towards sanity is certainly better than an order of magnitude of insanity, but even Jeff Sessions actually worked to make this happen. Jeff Sessions happens to be one of the appointments I'm particularly happy with because he stands to back a rather noxious trend of the federal government under Obama undermining law enforcement in a variety of ways including pandering the racialized concerns of "Black Lives Matter," etc.

(And I don't think it was wrong because of race. I don't give a shit about disparate racial impact. "Disparate impact" is a ridiculous legal standard applied towards otherwise non-race-based laws that has given us things like less competent Black firefighters hired over more competent Black ones. It's one than it can only dream of a Trump court overthrowing.)

What kind of person makes drugs a single issue vote? A really tiny minority of people who care that much about drugs vote because they're busy, well, doing drugs.

I don't think they're functioning on that level - that is to say, I don't think they care about personal feelings, with their "support" for him. I think many people probably just saw him as, brakes on the train, or something. The left was advocating for open borders, a 500% increase in refugees, and was pandering to groups like Black Lives Matter (and never calling out Islam as a source for Islamic Extremism - not being genuine), and not paying respect to the systemic issues that cause Black Lives Matter, etc.

Exactly. There are considerably bigger concerns as to whether we have to worry about the police when we're getting involved with the drug scene, which has been the baseline for all of our lives; meanwhile, things are going to shit socially in any number of other issues.

It was interesting and concerning listening to the trump speech. Being that Im not a pacifist and American, Im comfortable with the us fighting international jihad. But trump today made a pretty tall order when he basically said he would eliminate all of it in four years.

But I dont think it is very easy to do with all the unstable governments in the middle east. Unless the Us wants to work with Iran and Syria, there are no armies on the ground to accomplish this.

"Eradication" is all talk and the only reason that I think his approach to the Terror question will be better than his forebears is because he appears willing to work with Russia. If I were really hopeful, I'd hope that he'll be able to compromise with people like Assad, the late Qaddafi, etc. and avoid disturbing the status quo further, but that train has largely left the station, as an enormous black mark against the outgoing administration, for which it will be judged by history. I further worry about Trump's Mideastern policy given his Zionist ties even within his own family.

He said something about buy american and hire american. I am all for enforcing immigration law including everify, which i used to opposed too. Build a fence, the money has been there since 2006. But how do you make people buy american. If i want a cheap chinese knock off thats what i want. Let the market decide. [/QUU

He promised to never let us down. I was uncomfortable with that because his promises were pretty tall orders to fill in four years as long as Congress still makes the laws.

Still, I like the new direction he claims to want to go in. Business the past 16 years was unbecoming, so bad it made a candidate like donald trump sound attractive to some people it would seem. I hope he tries his best to make healthcare more affordable, stop illegal immigration, make the economy better and fight those jihadis.

[regarding marijuana→] I hope not. He has not made any strong claims to want to stop pot rights at the state. He even made some statements that he might support federal legalization. It seems its up to congress to change the law, not trump. Or at least thats how it works.

His rhetoric does contain a lot of promises that are beyond the ability of the President to achieve alone. One thing that a lot of both Trump enthusiasts and Trump haters fail to take into account is the he does have to deal with a Congress that will probably be equally recalcitrant to many of his more unique proposals than they were to anything of Obama's, although of course amenable to more standard-line Republican policies.

But, thanks to Bush and Obama before him (in particular, although this stretches back in one way another quite a long time, Reagan to Nixon to FDR and beyond), he does inherent an executive branch with a set of powers vastly increased relative to what it has in the Constitution or what is imagined even in the most Federalist of the Federalist papers. So he does have the ability to, by executive action, make quite a few changes, especially undoing various things that the prior administration dig solely by executive fiat (with regards to, for example, immigration) and, of course in combination with his new cabinet, making real impacts from Day One as regards to the various agencies.

Trump can't even be totally arbitrary if this guy is actually living in the real world, though, and he quite clearly isn't.

I know how it must have felt to live in 1933 Germany. Depressing day to be an American.

Laughable and probably underscores something about Trump's comments on the state of our educational system. I'd say offensive, but it's too laughable to really be offensive. Probably more offensive to Nazis than anyone else though.

"SJW" is the "Feminist" of the modern world.

I dislike the term outside of strictly comical contexts. But you have to call the great number of histrionically and exclusively identity-preoccupied people on the left something, "left-identitarian" is probably not a bad term. I have in mind in particular people who are preoccupied with "privilege," particularly people who come to this brand of politics with "privilege" to attend liberal arts colleges, which really have become occupied, in many departments, with a very, very radical, toxic, and (often self-)hateful identity politics, people who feel the need to bring racial, "gender" and "LGBT" stuff into even totally unrelated political conversations, people who are unduly preoccupied with those political causes, and so on.

Wow even with all the festivities and whatnot he is still tweeting and doing facebook.

Indeed. I saw in passing in some article that, like Obama, who was also resistant, he was made by the Secret Service to give up his phone and use a secure one, but which still includes Twitter—yes, Obama apparently could tweet from his phone, once Twitter came around and he switched from Blackberry to Apple, too—but clearly Trump is using it in a completely different, Trumpian way. Gives a whole new meaning to the idea of "3 AM phone [calls]." But on a more serious note, his ability to and disinhibition around Tweeting everything will put an interesting set of wrinkes in the whole "bully-pulpit" thing, or bunch of historical footnotes, in the whole thing, basically an exponential increase in the trolling facilities available to the office … but in the field of foreign relations, it poses some rather more troubling possibilities. I'm not a fan of the uninhibitedly tweeting Presidents but, somehow, though, it feels our just deserts in the toxic social media world we now inhabit. While it will give some new dimensions to the "bully pulpit," though, but does rather seem poised to diminish the dignity of the office with it's sheer banality. Which, again, is not so much a Trump thing but a post-post-modern society thing. I'm not terribly surprised with it though.
 
I dislike the term outside of strictly comical contexts. But you have to call the great number of histrionically and exclusively identity-preoccupied people on the left something, "left-identitarian" is probably not a bad term. I have in mind in particular people who are preoccupied with "privilege," particularly people who come to this brand of politics with "privilege" to attend liberal arts colleges, which really have become occupied, in many departments, with a very, very radical, toxic, and (often self-)hateful identity politics, people who feel the need to bring racial, "gender" and "LGBT" stuff into even totally unrelated political conversations, people who are unduly preoccupied with those political causes, and so on.
I don't fully understand the SJW phenomenon, but I understand the SJWs are for the most part upper middle class white people who go to expensive liberal arts colleges to learn how to accuse other white people of oppressing them. They major in the humanities and often get a degree in "gender studies." What they learn in college is how to find "white privilege" and oppression hiding under every bed. The case of the racist African-American student Bonita Tindle is a perfect example of SJW behavior. She assaulted a Jewish student for wearing dreadlocks. She claimed that he was racist for having dreadlocks and that he was "appropriating" black culture. "Cultural appropriation" is one of the subjects they learn to get worked up about in their gender studies classes. She mistakenly believes that blacks invented dreadlocks and she believes that they are the only culture in history that ever had them.
Escher, I think the SJW trend has a lot in common with Feminism. People are joining the SJW movement because feminist groups won't let them join. Many stains of modern feminism, especially radical feminism discriminate against gay people, transgender people, and men.
 
SKL how can you compromise with "the late Quaddafi" when the man is dead? Make sense ffs. Libya is currently a shitstorm. Please do explain how you compromise with that.

An enormous black storm that will be judged against history? No shit.
 
You know what I mean, and yes, it's a should have/could have. It's written exactly into my post as would be read by any reasonable. Come on, now. Libya's a shitstorm? Obviously. Obama, and Clinton, and the neocons and Zionists have to shoulder the blame on that one. If Trump actually holds true to his promises of America First noninterventionism and was ruling at the time, it might've been different; as I've said more than a few times in various ways, I'll have to see that. But point being to avoid these things in future, in particular and in context by partnering with Russia.
 
You totally lack the ability to read between the lines. The movement is called PC Bros and they have a frat house called PC Delta. There is probably a chapter in your town and you can join if you're PC, bro.
Shit man, you mean there are actual SJW membership cards and shit? You got photos?
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At what point would you call someone a SJW?

Let's say on a scale where one end is marriage equality, anti-discrimination, etc, and the other end is death camps for cis-scum white males?

I'm against all that shit. If anti-discrimination meant you had to serve everyone I would not necessarily have a problem with it but it means you have to make a penis shaped birthday cake or get fined half a million.

If Hilary had won it would mean a white man refusing to fuck a tranvestites rubber vagina would be a hate crime.

If Trump stops the PC shit I'll be satisfied given the alternatives.

Real change would involve the military taking the federal reserve by force Ron Paul is the only politician who came anywhere close to going there.
 
You might be a SJW if you use the term cis-male in a sentence in a way that is not ironic.
You might be a SJW if you consider nagging for sex in bed to be a form of sexual assault. It really is in Sweden thanks to their 2002 rape expansion act.
You might be a SJW if you go to the police and tell them that although you consented to sex at the moment, you currently regret it for whatever reason, and then your xboyfriend gets charged with rape.(Sweden again).

At what point would you call someone a SJW?

Let's say on a scale where one end is marriage equality, anti-discrimination, etc, and the other end is death camps for cis-scum white males?
 
I'm against all that shit. If anti-discrimination meant you had to serve everyone I would not necessarily have a problem with it but it means you have to make a penis shaped birthday cake or get fined half a million.

Do you have any reference for making that claim? I could not find any case similar to that. What I have found is a bakery getting in trouble for refusing to make a cake for a gay couple but not for straight couples, but the cake appeared to be conventional.

If Hilary had won it would mean a white man refusing to fuck a tranvestites rubber vagina would be a hate crime.

Do you have any reference for that?
 
You might be a SJW if you use the term cis-male in a sentence in a way that is not ironic.
You might be a SJW if you consider nagging for sex in bed to be a form of sexual assault. It really is in Sweden thanks to their 2002 rape expansion act.
You might be a SJW if you go to the police and tell them that although you consented to sex at the moment, you currently regret it for whatever reason, and then your xboyfriend gets charged with rape.(Sweden again).

For the Assange case, it wasn't the consent, it was the act consented to. Allegedly, the women consented to sex under the assumption that a condom was being used, but in both cases the condom seemed to have disappeared.
 
I think the Orwellian euphemism of "marriage equality" is pretty bad. It's pretty widespread. Apparently there are even some transsexuals who think that they're not obligated to inform potential sexual partners about their status. And the pretty much natural reaction to this, short of homicide, apparently, actually already is a hate crime, committed as far as I think most reasonable people would think by the victim, not that it is in principle good to return a wrong for a right. The "SJW" movement or whatever is people who actually think that they're still losing and literally make things up to feel themselves being more oppressed. As I said somewhere else, at what point will non-shizophrenics be "trugophrenic oppressors?" (That's what'd pop out as a functional Gk. antonym to me)

For the Assange case, it wasn't the consent, it was the act consented to. Allegedly, the women consented to sex under the assumption that a condom was being used, but in both cases the condom seemed to have disappeared.

Ardin claimed that he "purposefully made the condom break" because, I don't know, he wanted little Assanges with somebody he'd just met, in the high degree of unlikelihood that this particular demographic isn't using OBC? And IIRC she convinced (or even bullied) the other one into making a somewhat similar statement. And, though I will never have a vagina, as no man ever will, despite whatever strange surgeries are out there, I feel pretty safe in imagining that one could tell the difference.
 
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I think the Orwellian euphemism of "marriage equality" is pretty bad. It's pretty widespread.

I don't get what's bad about the phrase. It's about equality in marriage - that marriage should extend to adult homosexual couples as well as adult heterosexual couples.

Personally I do not see a compelling government interest in prohibiting marriage to same-sex couples.

Apparently there are even some transsexuals who think that they're not obligated to inform potential sexual partners about their status. And the pretty much natural reaction to this, short of homicide, apparently, actually already is a hate crime, committed as far as I think most reasonable people would think by the victim, not that it is in principle good to return a wrong for a right.

I believe it's rude, but generally our system of law frowns upon vengeance and I must agree.

The "SJW" movement or whatever is people who actually think that they're still losing and literally make things up to feel themselves being more oppressed. As I said somewhere else, at what point will non-shizophrenics be "trugophrenic oppressors?" (That's what'd pop out as a functional Gk. antonym to me)

Lets ignore the SJW then. They are the extremists, and they are an easy way to dismiss an argument.

Ardin claimed that he "purposefully made the condom break" because, I don't know, he wanted little Assanges with somebody he'd just met, in the high degree of unlikelihood that this particular demographic isn't using OBC? And IIRC she convinced (or even bullied) the other one into making a somewhat similar statement. And, though I will never have a vagina, as no man ever will, despite whatever strange surgeries are out there, I feel pretty safe in imagining that one could tell the difference.

I can see it happening. Some people really don't like using condoms.
 
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And the pretty much natural reaction to this, short of homicide

What is the "natural reaction"?

FWIW, I think that trans people should inform their partners. For whatever reason, this sort of thing really bothers people. People are still very unsettled by perceived same-sex relationships. I'm not sure how I would react, I think I would be confused but not homicidal. IMO, it is a form of sexual favor via deception, which means consent cannot be honestly given. I would say it can be considered rape or sexual assault. I don't imagine our current society does though.
 
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