swilow
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I am in great awe of KSA's psychic abilities, he appears to be able to know exactly what people are thinking regardless of whether they even say it! That's magical!
2016 American Presidential Campaign
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Ksa
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Given that Nelson Mandela was considered to be terrorist #1 before being imprisoned, and later on was awarded the Nobel prize for peace, you can clearly tell that the definition of a tyrant is entirely dependent on who is in power. Are you aware that in Islamic countries, the terrorist #1 is George Bush? If you engage in a violent riot against "tyranny", Trump is within his right to call you a terrorist and deport you, so I would not put his patience to the test.
swilow
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Why do you guys think Trump is going to be so powerful? The system hasn't changed a bit.
JessFR
Bluelight Crew
Deportation is an odd choice of threat to begin with. Aside from you being Australian and thus already not being in the united states. I'm in Australia too, but if I moved back to the US, I couldn't be deported back to Australia either. I'm an American citizen. I doubt many people here on bluelight are immigrants to the US, so there's probably almost noone to even pretend to threaten to deport.
It reminds me of the same kind of US centerism that caused some people to suggest Julian Assange should be charged with treason.
Some Americans are so insular and ignorant of the rest of the world they somewhat classify all people as part of American jurisdiction, or nonenglish speaking, nonwhite, and them and only them are "other" people. "Foreign".
Im not saying they believe it with the benefit of time to think. But they sort of intuitively think that way and so make these sorts of mistakes when making a passionate poorly thought out statement.
It reminds me of the same kind of US centerism that caused some people to suggest Julian Assange should be charged with treason.
Some Americans are so insular and ignorant of the rest of the world they somewhat classify all people as part of American jurisdiction, or nonenglish speaking, nonwhite, and them and only them are "other" people. "Foreign".
Im not saying they believe it with the benefit of time to think. But they sort of intuitively think that way and so make these sorts of mistakes when making a passionate poorly thought out statement.
swilow
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^Don't worry, I think KSA thinks everyone is American. I'm pretty sure he thinks I am 
Bella Figura
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Look whoever's had to make monthly payments characterised by extortionate interest rates for their vehicle without precedent knows what he means. You end up getting hostile and eating shit whilst posting on BL.
SKL
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I have to say Trump's cabinet choices inasmuch as they have been leaked to the media aren't really that encouraging in terms of bringing outside the box/beltway/DC consensus thinking. But once more all of this pales in comparison to potential SCOTUS nominations. I would be glad to see military men (but let's say of a non-Schofieldian eschatological persuasion) in the SECDEF role rather than corporate and intelligence guys, but on the financial side, there's at least a few Goldman, Sachs types on the shortlist as floated/leaked to the media. Not that I expected any differently.
I hope that Trump as president can accomplish some things by executive order just as Obama has, some of which being reversing some of Obama's executive orders, like the Paris/Morocco treaty which, wherever you stand on global warming (I stand on "it's real, both 'natural' and anthropogenic, probably not as apocalyptic and it's more ardent evangelists posit, and is not logically a reason to further put ourselves beside third world countries taking American manufacturing jobs, and that the so called "green industry" would compensate and is largely a scam, but I'm hesitant to get into grand conspiracy theories) the outgoing regime's use of executive orders to blatantly unconstitutionally subscribe us to is an outrage, inter alia res, executive orders on immigration enforcement and various other things, "gender identity discrimination" and medi/medi/va funds for "reassignment," abortion, etc.
I don't by any means see the man as a Messiah nor do I think that the American political system today is particularly amenable to the Führerprinzip or similar idea that unifies control under one individual, by necessity, just as in medicine, specialties and subspecialties have been so complex that we need specialists and subspecialists; although, perhaps, if we took less upon ourselves as a nation, internationally, and less upon ourselves as a government in at least somewhat libertarian terms, we'd need fewer such discordant voices. Regrettably, the pool for which to draw upon for these persons, cleansed of anyone who has serious skeletons in his closet or can be accused of general kookery, tend to be constructed to within the general consensus Overton window, which is concerning because while Trump has shown himself to be all over the map, he has some definitive neoconservative policies abroad (viz. his approach to the Mideast, particularly his sympathy for Israel and the false Israeli narrative of the situation with Iran), which hopefully will be countermanded by his contrary (or even hypocritical) isolationist stanses. In short, chaos, confusion, and disaster; but with at least a spice of at worst rhetorical deviance from the Establishment consensus.
In anyways, better the alternative. At least, some entropy. If this leads to better times, I'm happy; if it leads to worse I am glad we gave him the chance think that myself we as Bluelighters by the very nature of our necessarily underground lifestyle and common interests and talents are well placed to see it out. You know what they say about rats, cockroaches. People who've been involved with some criminal shit are gonna have more survival skills. We're separate from all of this, and yet affected by it, yes? If you're unhappy, stop bitching; if you're happy, stop rejoicing. The world's not in a good place and no one man not even the better of N is gonna fix that or change the trend. Survive!
I hope that Trump as president can accomplish some things by executive order just as Obama has, some of which being reversing some of Obama's executive orders, like the Paris/Morocco treaty which, wherever you stand on global warming (I stand on "it's real, both 'natural' and anthropogenic, probably not as apocalyptic and it's more ardent evangelists posit, and is not logically a reason to further put ourselves beside third world countries taking American manufacturing jobs, and that the so called "green industry" would compensate and is largely a scam, but I'm hesitant to get into grand conspiracy theories) the outgoing regime's use of executive orders to blatantly unconstitutionally subscribe us to is an outrage, inter alia res, executive orders on immigration enforcement and various other things, "gender identity discrimination" and medi/medi/va funds for "reassignment," abortion, etc.
I don't by any means see the man as a Messiah nor do I think that the American political system today is particularly amenable to the Führerprinzip or similar idea that unifies control under one individual, by necessity, just as in medicine, specialties and subspecialties have been so complex that we need specialists and subspecialists; although, perhaps, if we took less upon ourselves as a nation, internationally, and less upon ourselves as a government in at least somewhat libertarian terms, we'd need fewer such discordant voices. Regrettably, the pool for which to draw upon for these persons, cleansed of anyone who has serious skeletons in his closet or can be accused of general kookery, tend to be constructed to within the general consensus Overton window, which is concerning because while Trump has shown himself to be all over the map, he has some definitive neoconservative policies abroad (viz. his approach to the Mideast, particularly his sympathy for Israel and the false Israeli narrative of the situation with Iran), which hopefully will be countermanded by his contrary (or even hypocritical) isolationist stanses. In short, chaos, confusion, and disaster; but with at least a spice of at worst rhetorical deviance from the Establishment consensus.
In anyways, better the alternative. At least, some entropy. If this leads to better times, I'm happy; if it leads to worse I am glad we gave him the chance think that myself we as Bluelighters by the very nature of our necessarily underground lifestyle and common interests and talents are well placed to see it out. You know what they say about rats, cockroaches. People who've been involved with some criminal shit are gonna have more survival skills. We're separate from all of this, and yet affected by it, yes? If you're unhappy, stop bitching; if you're happy, stop rejoicing. The world's not in a good place and no one man not even the better of N is gonna fix that or change the trend. Survive!
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nuttynutskin
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The whole deportation thing I think is hilarious. The amount of money and effort it would take along with the ramifications would make it practically impossible.
BTW, empty your inbox. lol
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treezy z
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I am happy to see all the sjws foaming at the mouth with the racist, sexist, homophobic etc bullshit.
Please continue to do so, this strengthens the resolve of the deplorables and encourages more to jump in the basket.
Please continue to do so, this strengthens the resolve of the deplorables and encourages more to jump in the basket.
Ksa
Ex-Bluelighter
The reason why I disagree with democrat Political Correctness and anti-racism, anti-sexism etc. is because it doesn't work. People go from being racists and sexists to being hypocrites. They all treat you with respect and publicly enforce your equality but they fire you due to "performance issues" and suppress you privately. They are all hypocrites. To them it's a game they play to equalize you publicly and suppress you privately. It doesn't work.
It's just a system to scam visible minorities into thinking they are being accepted, and when suppressed, they are lead to think it's due to their lack of ambition or lack of performance, while in fact, these motives are fabricated and are 100% untrue, to cover for the real reason which is that they are being fired for being black or for not blending in with the retarded hockey fans at work, and that nothing ever changed. Democrats as well as republicans are as racist as they were 50 years ago, and it so turns out that the democrats have an exclusivity for playing this GAME called political correctness to mask their racism, sexism, homophobia and Islamophobia.
I know these democrat messages sound appealing to minorities, when they say they will not look down on you, that they will treat you as their equal, that they will give you opportunity. All hypocrisy and lies, all of it. They will repeat that to you publicly, and fire or suppress you privately. I know it's tempting to go for them because it feels like an easy way out of prejudice, but it's not that easy, these people are as racist as anyone else and are only good at hiding it.
It breaks my heart to think these people have hope, voting for democrats and are 100% deceived.
It's just a system to scam visible minorities into thinking they are being accepted, and when suppressed, they are lead to think it's due to their lack of ambition or lack of performance, while in fact, these motives are fabricated and are 100% untrue, to cover for the real reason which is that they are being fired for being black or for not blending in with the retarded hockey fans at work, and that nothing ever changed. Democrats as well as republicans are as racist as they were 50 years ago, and it so turns out that the democrats have an exclusivity for playing this GAME called political correctness to mask their racism, sexism, homophobia and Islamophobia.
I know these democrat messages sound appealing to minorities, when they say they will not look down on you, that they will treat you as their equal, that they will give you opportunity. All hypocrisy and lies, all of it. They will repeat that to you publicly, and fire or suppress you privately. I know it's tempting to go for them because it feels like an easy way out of prejudice, but it's not that easy, these people are as racist as anyone else and are only good at hiding it.
It breaks my heart to think these people have hope, voting for democrats and are 100% deceived.
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THE_REAL_OBLIVION
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Trump's very first tweet as president-elect basically shit all over the First Amendment
For now I'm done with Trump, the insanity of Pizzagate, John and Tony Pedesta and that batshit insane woman Abramovic and what the FBI file about codes for pedophiles to talk about children and other things they should not be doing. If the guy was Canadian I'd drive over with my 12 gauge and shoot him in the head, but fortunately, I'm Canadian. For more info contact Det. Perry, errr I mean go to pedocrats.com
The room when Trump won at the Hitlery election night room felt like Hitler's last days in the bunker, everyone in there knew they had indictments and prison coming for them, public shaming and maybe burning if we still had real justice. But they're fucked, so fucked. Trump also might be because he's done some rapes, it's pretty certain, but all the emails on wikileaks proving everything on pedocrats.com are linked, I'd suggest starting with the reddit FAQ, where a resume of this crazy shit of tunnels all over D.C. where child sex slaves are kept and made to do insane shit. Jimmy Saville stuff but even worse since it's seemingly so organized and the FBI guide about how pedophiles identify each other safely....
^To help you understand what these sick fucks (male and female) speak about. Also remember Breaking Bad when Saul scared suggests to Walt to send Hank where Mike went...Belize (and Walt gets angry as fuck). Well they talk about a lot sending broken pizza and hotdog stands to Hawaii.
And, in other ways yes Epstein is involved, again.
Apparently Huma hasn't stopped crying since Trump won, it's not because Hillary lost, it's because she knows she's going to trial and maybe prison, since Trump is peripherally related to all these people he has huge blackmail on, and because of how they treated him, he's gonna have his DoJ person go hard on 'em and I'll be laughing hysterically on all the 2c-b-fly and bromodragonfly I obtained before the stupid nbomes ban that took those away. Although I don't really like Sibel Edmonds who thinks she knows everything and that it was decided long ago Hillary was going to be President, that the deep state (I hope you guys here know what that means, it means the parallel government that doesn't change when elections happen, there's a shitload of non-elected civil "servants" who stay in government and para-government circles for all their lives and maybe only had 2 years of being a congressman/woman. Still they dictate the narrative as much if not more than elected officials) had chosen Hillary...which they did, which is fucked up, when Kagan says to vote for Hillary, you know something's changed. It's cos Hillary was the Neocon's Choice. Neocon's Choice rarely loses (they started winning all the time from Reagan and on). Well Edmonds was wrong there, and her shrilly personality and all her old employees at their old alt alt news site boilingfrogspost.com of any value walked away from her boondoggle that is Newsbud...she's still asking for money and I'm happy she won't make it, she already sucked near a million dollars from suckers for Newsbud when everyone worth listening to in her old crew are all gone and she has the gall to ask for 100k in 15 days...her kickstarter won't work, we don't need that, others have taken over with more humble alt alt media.
For now I'm done with Trump, the insanity of Pizzagate, John and Tony Pedesta and that batshit insane woman Abramovic and what the FBI file about codes for pedophiles to talk about children and other things they should not be doing. If the guy was Canadian I'd drive over with my 12 gauge and shoot him in the head, but fortunately, I'm Canadian. For more info contact Det. Perry, errr I mean go to pedocrats.com
The room when Trump won at the Hitlery election night room felt like Hitler's last days in the bunker, everyone in there knew they had indictments and prison coming for them, public shaming and maybe burning if we still had real justice. But they're fucked, so fucked. Trump also might be because he's done some rapes, it's pretty certain, but all the emails on wikileaks proving everything on pedocrats.com are linked, I'd suggest starting with the reddit FAQ, where a resume of this crazy shit of tunnels all over D.C. where child sex slaves are kept and made to do insane shit. Jimmy Saville stuff but even worse since it's seemingly so organized and the FBI guide about how pedophiles identify each other safely....
^To help you understand what these sick fucks (male and female) speak about. Also remember Breaking Bad when Saul scared suggests to Walt to send Hank where Mike went...Belize (and Walt gets angry as fuck). Well they talk about a lot sending broken pizza and hotdog stands to Hawaii.
And, in other ways yes Epstein is involved, again.
Apparently Huma hasn't stopped crying since Trump won, it's not because Hillary lost, it's because she knows she's going to trial and maybe prison, since Trump is peripherally related to all these people he has huge blackmail on, and because of how they treated him, he's gonna have his DoJ person go hard on 'em and I'll be laughing hysterically on all the 2c-b-fly and bromodragonfly I obtained before the stupid nbomes ban that took those away. Although I don't really like Sibel Edmonds who thinks she knows everything and that it was decided long ago Hillary was going to be President, that the deep state (I hope you guys here know what that means, it means the parallel government that doesn't change when elections happen, there's a shitload of non-elected civil "servants" who stay in government and para-government circles for all their lives and maybe only had 2 years of being a congressman/woman. Still they dictate the narrative as much if not more than elected officials) had chosen Hillary...which they did, which is fucked up, when Kagan says to vote for Hillary, you know something's changed. It's cos Hillary was the Neocon's Choice. Neocon's Choice rarely loses (they started winning all the time from Reagan and on). Well Edmonds was wrong there, and her shrilly personality and all her old employees at their old alt alt news site boilingfrogspost.com of any value walked away from her boondoggle that is Newsbud...she's still asking for money and I'm happy she won't make it, she already sucked near a million dollars from suckers for Newsbud when everyone worth listening to in her old crew are all gone and she has the gall to ask for 100k in 15 days...her kickstarter won't work, we don't need that, others have taken over with more humble alt alt media.
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Morninggloryseed
Bluelight Crew
Fascinating thread. I was an idealist young person...I voted for Algor in 2000 and remember the fear of George Bush among myself and my peers when the (R) won..I didn't start voting for republicans until the 02 election so I felt revulsion that the (D) didn't win in 2000 the way some voters feel now. 9/11 happened and all political ideology was turned upside down.
I hoped race relations would advance in 2000 but had serious reservations for Obama (didn't vote that year) and tried to vote the Dems out in 2012.
In my own case (degenerate social liberal here) the economic realities are always a consideration. I have reservations again but I am gonna wait and see with a healthy slice of optimism cause it is my way.
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Ps always a Proud American...even in the darkest time *
* irony of the statement not lost upon me.
I hoped race relations would advance in 2000 but had serious reservations for Obama (didn't vote that year) and tried to vote the Dems out in 2012.
In my own case (degenerate social liberal here) the economic realities are always a consideration. I have reservations again but I am gonna wait and see with a healthy slice of optimism cause it is my way.
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Ps always a Proud American...even in the darkest time *
* irony of the statement not lost upon me.
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You speak the language of the educated liberal elites! He won't fall for it!
David Wooderson
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To quote you Swilow, "He's not even president yet"....
The fact that illegal aliens and criminals have rioted for the past week, shows me that he would be very stupid to say much or show anything until he is secured as Commander and Chief of the free world.
He will tell America tonight that 2-3 million undesirables are going to be shown the door, or jailed.
Thank fucking god!
Good fucking riddance!
I'm very exited for the first time in my life that America is really going to become great again!
You're excited that for the first time in your life, illegal immigrants are going to be deported and that is going to make America great again? It's not as if criminality in the US is going to disappear with them.To quote you Swilow, "He's not even president yet"....
The fact that illegal aliens and criminals have rioted for the past week, shows me that he would be very stupid to say much or show anything until he is secured as Commander and Chief of the free world.
He will tell America tonight that 2-3 million undesirables are going to be shown the door, or jailed.
Thank fucking god!
Good fucking riddance!
I'm very exited for the first time in my life that America is really going to become great again!
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Escher's Waterfall
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I don't know what other areas are like, but what people are calling "riots" here are nothing more than protest marches.
swilow
Bluelight Crew
I admire your optimism and faith because you've no evidence that Trump will do anything. The fact that he did not win the popular vote means there will be a lot more opposition to his radical plans. I don't see America becoming great again, I think your empire is in terminal decline. As I said, the system hasn't changed.
I totally support people protesting this debacle...
RDP89
Bluelighter
I never got the whole "make America great again". Again??? It was only ever "great" for select groups of people. Some people talk as if the U.S. used to be some wonderful utopia. Give me a fucking break.
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