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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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I'm only speculating. Both candidates are widely hated and neither is trusted. If he does something that makes him appear less bad at the last minute, some people will switch sides. Given how quickly polls react to the latest headline, the polls would change slightly if he said he's sorry. I don't know if it would be enough to put him in the lead.
 
It definitely reflects on the U.S. as a whole that he even got nominated. Way too many ignorant assholes in this "land of the free".
 
alasdairm said:
why would anyone believe him at this point?

he's told so many lies to date and insulted so many people and classes that people are pretty clear on the kind of guy he is.
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Alasdairm, I don't want to turn this into a "who's the bigger liar" type of debate, but think for a second: Imagine some thugs break into your home to kill you. You call the Sheriff's number and he doesn't pick-up. You send the Sheriff an e-mail asking for help, and he doesn't come. Eventually the robbers get to you, rob you and put you in a hospital in critical condition.

The Sheriff's actions seem questionable, and he appears before the congress, subpoenaed to be there, questioned by Trey Gowdy. Gowdy asks, why did you not pick up the phone? He says, I told him not to call me. Gowdy then asks, well then, the e-mail he sent you was pretty descriptive of his distress, upon reading it, why did you not go there and do your duty? And the Sheriff answers: "that e-mail was unsolicited, no-one asked him for an update on his situation".

That's Hilary handling the embassy crisis and accounting for her actions before congress. So according to her, the ambassador shitting his pants in fear of an attack and requesting reinforcements, to her, that was SPAM. The ambassador SPAMMED her Inbox, because she never requested for an update to be sent to her, so these countless e-mails were UNSOLICITED. It was SPAM. They weren't eligible for a prompt response.

Do you have any idea who you're voting for? Give me an honest answer. Or do you just vote for her because you don't like TRUMP?
 
socko said:
ksa, one comment by Trump comes to mind. At the end of July, he had pulled ahead in the race. Major polls showed him likely to win. As if on cue after seeing that he was ahead, he insulted the family of a fallen US soldier who died in Iraq. It wasn't that it wasn't PC. His supporters don't care about being PC. His remarks were just plain mean. That single fight he picked with that soldier's family alienated a huge block of military families. They changed sides. If he were to appolgize, it might make a difference now.

You're right about the economic situation in the US. It is tragic. Millions of blue collar and other working/middle class jobs disappeared in the last several decades leaving tens of millions unemployed and underemployed. And it's as you say, they struggle to feed themselves. To ad insult to injury, this is underreported by MSM. NAFTA, TPP, and other trade agreements contrived by the Clintons contributed heavily to the problem.
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That's true that Trump made some unfortunate statements, because he's not a politician and is still learning how to work his way around. If Hilary had no experience with Politics, she would not just offend you, she would also break a vase in your head like she did on her husband, poor guy had to wear make-up for days, he had a black eye. She is a shortie, and has learned that vs. tall people, throwing missiles is very effective. Now how on Earth would you figure that one out? I never thought about how to hit a tall man nor a short, because I'm even tempered, that thought hasn't crossed my mind. With her though it became a skill. She likes to toss heavy objects at her staff and TV reporters. She picks up something heavy and aims for the head.

Why? Because the poor baby never got over Bill cheating on her...her little tummy is bitter with anger over Bill preferring other women. Her whole DNA is screaming with anger and feels unloved and genetically unfulfilled as a female partner. The woman is bittered by sexual frustration, she is sexually suppressed. You might be mad at TRUMP for fucking supermodels, but he's sexually enabled, he has a healthy sex life that is enabling him, to function properly. Last time she did it is probably decades ago, this is not a mockery episode, this is medical. Does she have the right chemicals in her brain to lead the country, or is she bittered by sexual frustration?

She doesn't understand why...why oh why does Bill have sex with these women and jeopardizing the Clinton foundation...to this day she doesn't understand it. She just doesn't understand men. I wonder if she ever had an orgasm?!
 
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Ksa said:
That's true that Trump made some unfortunate statements, because he's not a politician and is still learning how to work his way around. If Hilary had no experience with Politics, she would not just offend you, she would also break a vase in your head like she did on her husband, poor guy had to wear make-up for days, he had a black eye. She is a shortie, and has learned that vs. tall people, throwing missiles is very effective. Now how on Earth would you figure that one out? I never thought about how to hit a tall man nor a short, because I'm even tempered, that thought hasn't crossed my mind. With her though it became a skill. She likes to toss heavy objects at her staff and TV reporters. She picks up something heavy and aims for the head.

Why? Because the poor baby never got over Bill cheating on her...her little tummy is bitter with anger over Bill preferring other women. Her whole DNA is screaming with anger and feels unloved and genetically unfulfilled as a female partner. The woman is bittered by sexual frustration, she is sexually suppressed. You might be mad at TRUMP for fucking supermodels, but he's sexually enabled, he has a healthy sex life that is enabling him, to function properly. Last time she did it is probably decades ago, this is not a mockery episode, this is medical. Does she have the right chemicals in her brain to lead the country, or is she bittered by sexual frustration?

She doesn't understand why...why oh why does Bill have sex with these women and jeopardizing the Clinton foundation...to this day she doesn't understand it. She just doesn't understand men. I wonder if she ever had an orgasm?!
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Maybe when she banged web hubbell and conceived chelsea with him?
 
Ksa said:
Do you have any idea who you're voting for? Give me an honest answer. Or do you just vote for her because you don't like TRUMP?
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why do people go straight to "if we disagree, it must be because you're ignorant"?

i have as good an idea of who she is as the next reasonably well-informed citizen. she is far, far from the perfect candidate and she's made some serious mistakes. but, knowing that, she is, by a country mile, better qualified to sit in the oval office than donald trump. he is he is uniquely dangerous in his incompetence and has taken cynical disingenuousness to a new low.

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Ksa said:
That's true that Trump made some unfortunate statements, because he's not a politician and is still learning how to work his way around. If Hilary had no experience with Politics, she would not just offend you, she would also break a vase in your head like she did on her husband, poor guy had to wear make-up for days, he had a black eye. She is a shortie, and has learned that vs. tall people, throwing missiles is very effective. Now how on Earth would you figure that one out? I never thought about how to hit a tall man nor a short, because I'm even tempered, that thought hasn't crossed my mind. With her though it became a skill. She likes to toss heavy objects at her staff and TV reporters. She picks up something heavy and aims for the head.

Why? Because the poor baby never got over Bill cheating on her...her little tummy is bitter with anger over Bill preferring other women. Her whole DNA is screaming with anger and feels unloved and genetically unfulfilled as a female partner. The woman is bittered by sexual frustration, she is sexually suppressed. You might be mad at TRUMP for fucking supermodels, but he's sexually enabled, he has a healthy sex life that is enabling him, to function properly. Last time she did it is probably decades ago, this is not a mockery episode, this is medical. Does she have the right chemicals in her brain to lead the country, or is she bittered by sexual frustration?

She doesn't understand why...why oh why does Bill have sex with these women and jeopardizing the Clinton foundation...to this day she doesn't understand it. She just doesn't understand men. I wonder if she ever had an orgasm?!
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It's interesting how a female candidate brings out so much misogynistic bile from some people.
I'm not a fan of Clinton's but i damn well hope she wins, given the "alternative", joke candidate she's up against.
 
^Yeah, its a bit of a buzzword. Mainly because the people who you cloned your opinions from are ceaselessly vomiting this irrelevant shit forth. Say something about her beliefs and ideals rather than discussing whether she's ever really experienced orgasm; I'm all for weird shit, but I find this quite telling. Unless you honestly wonder this about all 69 year old people, it seems that you have an odd problem with this one. I wonder if Donald Trump can still get erections?

As you can see, it is reasonable and normal to discuss these sort of things about political candidates. :\
 
alasdairm said:
why do people go straight to "if we disagree, it must be because you're ignorant"?

i have as good an idea of who she is as the next reasonably well-informed citizen. she is far, far from the perfect candidate and she's made some serious mistakes. but, knowing that, she is, by a country mile, better qualified to sit in the oval office than donald trump. he is he is uniquely dangerous in his incompetence and has taken cynical disingenuousness to a new low.

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I never said you were ignorant, I was asking if you took that into consideration when granting her your vote.

swilow said:
^Yeah, its a bit of a buzzword. Mainly because the people who you cloned your opinions from are ceaselessly vomiting this irrelevant shit forth. Say something about her beliefs and ideals rather than discussing whether she's ever really experienced orgasm; I'm all for weird shit, but I find this quite telling. Unless you honestly wonder this about all 69 year old people, it seems that you have an odd problem with this one. I wonder if Donald Trump can still get erections?

As you can see, it is reasonable and normal to discuss these sort of things about political candidates. :\
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I see medical topics as normal discussion topics, IF Hilary displays medical symptoms. If symptoms were not there, if she wasn't aggressive and angry with everyone, it would be mean and uncalled for to discuss that, but when she displays that type of aggressive behavior, it is only natural and logical to wonder if she's doing well in the bedroom. Especially in her position it's important to stroke that stress away and get penetrated, so if she's not sexually happy, it's a disaster. A woman that's not sexually taken care of, is a disaster.

And yes, she is a shortie, and she had the arrogance to say Obama was TALL. He's a TALL man. Really? Like, are we going to go there? Why do you think women wear high heels? Hello? If you're not happy with how tall you are, what's keeping you from wearing 6 inch high heels? That's what heels are for, because on average, women are shorter than men. For a woman to say a man is tall, is an INSULT! I always answer " you forgot to mention handsome!". It's lack of respect because she's insinuating that there's something wrong with him. In fact, there's nothing wrong with Obama because he's a man and men are tall, there's something wrong with her for not wearing proper women apparel.

She also told a black lady she was staring like a buffalo. Then she calls Trump racist. Using the word buffalo is extremely racist and insulting because black people, especially women, can display that type of face, because of their physiology, the way their face is cut, especially black women with undulated hairstyle who wonder in their thoughts or focus on a discussion, can indeed have that peaceful, un-bothered buffalo look, so using the word buffalo is very telling of a hidden racism, because for her to say it, she had to think it in the first place. She looked at black women and the first think that came into HER mind was a buffalo!

Myself, when I look at a human being, I don't think of animals. But maybe that's just me.
 
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^Oh boy. We are a crazy species.8) Had never seen that thread. I like the spelling of "hollocaust", the cherry on top of the cupcake.
 
KSA said:
I see medical topics as normal discussion topics, IF Hilary displays medical symptoms. If symptoms were not there, if she wasn't aggressive and angry with everyone, it would be mean and uncalled for to discuss that, but when she displays that type of aggressive behavior, it is only natural and logical to wonder if she's doing well in the bedroom.
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Is it? Is it really? You are the first person I have seen discuss Hilary Clinton's orgasms. :\

Perhaps Trump doesn't get any and that's why he admits to assualting women? Is this sort of speculation at all fruitful? It is clear to me that is because she is a woman that you feel it neccesary to discuss her sexuality. To be honest, she is 69 years old and running for President. Sex may be an obsession of yours, but do you really think it should be one for such a candidate? You are trying to debase her in the way many men do to women they fear, by claiming she is a helpless product of biology and crazy hormonal emotions that needs to be controlled by a male penis. Its a way to degrade her, to dehumanise her, to disempower and maybe even empower your own minor uselessness. Perhaps she acts the way she does because she chooses to and is not actually a automaton being directed by her vagina.

Especially in her position it's important to stroke that stress away and get penetrated, so if she's not sexually happy, it's a disaster. A woman that's not sexually taken care of, is a disaster.
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Women of the world are so fortunate that you have such great insight into them. I gotta ask, have you ever spoken to one of them? ;)

...there's something wrong with her for not wearing proper women apparel.
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What is "proper women apparel"?

My god, you talk a fine grade of total shit KSA :D

She also told a black lady she was staring like a buffalo. Then she calls Trump racist.
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That doesn't mean that Trump isn't racist. If what you are saying is true, it just means that both of them are prejudiced.

Myself, when I look at a human being, I don't think of animals. But maybe that's just me.
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I literally have no idea what you are talking about, but you actually did compare black women to buffaloes, you agreed with what Clinton apparently said.

Actually, what the fuck ARE you talking about??

Actually, I have no interest in finding out. :|
 
swilow said:
You are trying to debase her in the way many men do to women they fear, by claiming she is a helpless product of biology and crazy hormonal emotions that needs to be controlled by a male penis. Its a way to degrade her, to dehumanise her, to disempower and maybe even empower your own minor uselessness. Perhaps she acts the way she does because she chooses to and is not actually a automaton being directed by her vagina.
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I did not expect a reply like this from a blue-light member who is supposed to be familiar with drugs and how they can alter behavior, and especially choice. Are you are aware that if you are high on Heroin, your choices in life will be very different than if you were high on methamphetamine? So, after all, your choices DO depend on the chemicals in your brain, don't they? It is a physicality. If I leave you locked in a freezer without clothes, you cannot chose to survive, and if you fall in a pool of molten iron, you cannot chose to have a nice swim and a cold beer. That's because of your physical nature. What you seem to suggest is that the "you" is eternal and is not influenced by physical factors.

Your thinking pattern is actually quite common and is born, in my opinion, out of the "hero" myth that Hollywood manufactured to sustain a "denial of death" fairy-tale so people no longer feel like asking themselves uncomfortable questions. Superman doesn't have a headache, he doesn't get an erection, he is not tempted by what tempts humans, he is above all that because he is a hero. He is so great. For superman to have sex and stimulate his tip, that would be lowering himself. Thus, the misconception that if you want to be great, if you want to be recognized and appreciated, you have to rise above these bodily things.

Since this is a belief system, it wouldn't be smart of me to argue with you over it, because it would be like arguing with a christian about him being christian. If this is what you believe in and if this makes you happy I have no objection. In fact, trying to persuade you otherwise may not work out in your favor, since believing otherwise might make you less happy than you are now. What you have to come to realize though is that some other people, including myself, do not share your beliefs. My beliefs are not above yours and vice versa. So this argument will lead nowhere and is not worth pursuing at this point.
 
My post to you was essentially an overly long way of pointing out that you are talking utter shit. There's really nothing in there for you to extrapolate something about my beliefs. Feel free to categorise me in whatever way makes you most comfortable.

I think I'll follow suit and essentially ignore your ramblings dude. They make very little sense and I can't be fucked getting bogged down in some delusional argument about complete nonsense with you. Please don't waste your time replying.
 
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swilow said:
My post to you was essentially an overly long way of pointing out that you are talking utter shit. There's really nothing in there for you to extrapolate something about my beliefs. Feel free to categorise me in whatever way makes you most comfortable.

I think I'll follow suit and essentially ignore your ramblings dude. They make very little sense and I can't be fucked getting bogged down in some delusional argument about complete nonsense with you. Please don't waste your time replying.
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So you're like Hilary, you ask me questions, and when I reply to you with the answer, you say my e-mail was UNSOLICITED and you never had a conversation with me. No wonder you're voting for her.

Like I said, there might be strength in UNITY, but UNITY is not a synonym of RIGHT, because you can observe unity among pedophiles too, who organize themselves to get more kids, more kid porn and their unity will surely send them to Hell. The fact that half of America is unified in Hilary, in the book of right and wrong, that means nothing at all. To find out what is right and what is wrong, it requires more research.
 
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