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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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Ryan have you read any of the latest leaked Clinton foundation emails/wallstreet speech transcripts. We need to get a thread started. I've been reading them on my phone for the last hour off wiki leaks links. Straight up going from space wars/ aliens?? calling for open hemispherical free trade, open borders, etc.

I don't care what your political affiliation is, they are a good read lol
 
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If I was on food stamps, I'd vote Democratic.

Republicans act like poverty is some sort of moral failing which should be criminalized. Plus there's the whole socioeconomic factor - poverty tends to disproportionately affect minorities, and Republicans aren't really a minority-friendly party.
 
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republicans can't distance themselves from trump fast enough in the wake of his pandering apology. rats, sinking ships, etc.

alasdair
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Lol oh no he said some naughty things about women's in 05. I liked his statement about it. He called out bill for physically harming women and Hilary for attacking them/ covering it up.
I wish he would bust out a transcript of her juicy emails and just start reading them on Sunday. Those dastardly Russians may have exposed them once and for all! ( it wasn't the Russians)
 
Droppersneck said:
Lol oh no he said some naughty things about women's in 05. I liked his statement about it. He called out bill for physically harming women and Hilary for attacking them/ covering it up.
I wish he would bust out a transcript of her juicy emails and just start reading them on Sunday. Those dastardly Russians may have exposed them once and for all! ( it wasn't the Russians)
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The difference is there is now actually proof of Trumps poor character. Bill and Hillary's problems are all he said, she said. Also Bill is not the one running for president.

This is a man that was 60 years old when he talked like this. Obviously this isn't going to sway those that have a burning passionate hatred of Hillary and think she's killed hundreds of people and runs the world. But all the republican evangelicals who question Trump, a lot of women, independants, etc are all effected by this news. If he bombs the debate he's over for real, once and for all.

This could go either way of course he's going to start attacking Hillary for real now full force on Bills affairs. Like everything else I'm thinking it could seriously back fire in his face, people will just feel sorry for her. Of course the democrats are legendary for snatching defeat out of the hands of winning so I could see Hillary getting over confident and saying something stupid herself. We'll see! I can't wait.
 
The main thing that I didn't care for was that she was married. I'm not going to fake some deeper moral offense. He's a man. We like to dominate.
 
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The difference is there is now actually proof of Trumps poor character. Bill and Hillary's problems are all he said, she said. Also Bill is not the one running for president.

This is a man that was 60 years old when he talked like this. Obviously this isn't going to sway those that have a burning passionate hatred of Hillary and think she's killed hundreds of people and runs the world. But all the republican evangelicals who question Trump, a lot of women, independants, etc are all effected by this news. If he bombs the debate he's over for real, once and for all.

This could go either way of course he's going to start attacking Hillary for real now full force on Bills affairs. Like everything else I'm thinking it could seriously back fire in his face, people will just feel sorry for her. Of course the democrats are legendary for snatching defeat out of the hands of winning so I could see Hillary getting over confident and saying something stupid herself. We'll see! I can't wait.
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Please just get on wiki leaks and read her emails and her foundations emails. I don't care about bills transgressions, I only care about the evil motives of them and their foundation. These are factual things. The way they factually tore apart Bernies candidacy with smear tactics and collusion with major media factions is just house of cards type shit. Take off the partisan blinders bro. NOBODY likes trump, but we are taking lesser of two evils. The clintons are the absolute creation of Jekyll island 1913. Excuse me while i take off my Tin foil hat
 
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The main thing that I didn't care for was that she was married. I'm not going to fake some deeper moral offense. He's a man. We like to dominate.
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Trump was married and had a 3 month pregnant wife when he said this. He's the candidate that's running a "family values" centered campaign so yes it is a big deal. I know you've already made up your mind but to many people who are just holding their nose and voting for him this matters a lot.

Also what's pretty funny is all these people that bitch about SJW and safe spaces and triggers have the thinnest skin possible, Trump included. I can't think of anything more anti first amendment than wanting to turn the entire nation into a giant safe space for white "patriots" (white supremacists)
 
Some stinks can't be blocked by fingers alone.

Trump's bluster will never cover his lack of political intellect, grace or dignity.
Clinton represents some pretty fucking odious things - but that's the status quo, effectively.

The argument that "things couldn't be worse - so vote for the candidate most disruptive to the status quo" seems very misguided to me.
Things could get much worse socially and economically in the US, especially with a self-aggrandising, deliberately divisive creep as President.

Glad to see reality catching up to the lying slimy bastard.
 
Haha, I bet Hillary has had this tape the entire time and was waiting to release it on a day that she really needed it. No one is going to care about her emails when "grab her by the pussy" is out there.
 
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Please just get on wiki leaks and read her emails and her foundations emails. I don't care about bills transgressions, I only care about the evil motives of them and their foundation. These are factual things. The way they factually tore apart Bernies candidacy with smear tactics and collusion with major media factions is just house of cards type shit. Take off the partisan blinders bro. NOBODY likes trump, but we are taking lesser of two evils. The clintons are the absolute creation of Jekyll island 1913. Excuse me while i take off my Tin foil hat
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The entire system both democrat and republican sabotaged Bernie from the start. I've already written extensively on my problem with Trump. The supreme court is too important I'd rather fight Hillary for 4 years than Trump who is going to hand control over to the GOP and do the same things, I'd rather not worry about women, minorities, the poor, healthcare, etc.

God I hope she nominates the youngest, most commie pinko judges there are. I'll cream myself if Obama withdraws Garlands nomination. Once gerrymandering goes the Republicans are fucked.
 
What are the chances Donald "pulls out" of the debate?

Edit: apparently he isn't going to. There's a video of him apologizing for 30 seconds then telling how Bill abused women and Hillary stood by him.
 
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Christ, he's a lowlife.
It's sad that he gets so much attention for being a sleazy dinosaur.
He's always been of the "no such thing as bad publicity" kind of mentality - but the only real thing i personally see as a positive in this whole campaign is the utterly shambolic state of the Republican Party.

Absolutely everything else has been a depressing shit-show. This article is from January, but is still still full of relevant points;

As the rest of the world looks upon America’s 2016 presidential race and what has become a disgrace of a democratic system, its bewilderment can be organised around a series of hows and whys.

How can a political and policy freak show like Donald Trump become a serious contender for the job America touts as “leader of the free world”?

Why has the democratic “competition of ideas” become so degraded that Trump’s thought bubble to ban more than 20% of the world’s population (Muslims) from entering America has passed relatively unimpeded into mainstream policy debate?

More broadly, how can the race for America’s top job be so short on facts and logic that nearly every leading 2016 presidential candidate is uttering outright lies, mostly false statements or half-truths at least half the time they open their mouths?

Why will it take nearly $US2 billion in campaign funding to win this year’s presidential race and lead a country founded on the idea that “anyone can become president”?

Why, in this day and age, has the top job devolved into a dynastic possession? If Hillary Clinton becomes president in 2016, two families (Bush and Clinton) will have alternated in the White House for 24 of the 32 years from 1989 to 2021.

How and why can the US government spy on its own citizens with a scope and intensity that make the KGB and other former communist spy agencies look like rank amateurs?
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Lol oh no he said some naughty things about women's in 05.
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of course you dismiss it because you don't care about anything he says or does. but a lot of people, and a lot of independents and undecideds especially, are learning about the kind of person he is and how his personality makes him totally unfit for the job.

alasdair
 
I reckon Clinton's definitely going to win, but that won't stop Trump pulling out Bill's BJ card at the next debate.

I think he'd rather do that and lose rather than actually try and win people over to be President and retain any modicum of dignity or respect.
 
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