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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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I don't trust the polls either, but I wouldn't write them off. I have not seen or known too many Hilary supporters irl, but I have seen and known plenty trump supporters. He has a large online presence as well where Hilary's only online presence is anti trump people which may or may not support her. I think the fact that ME is a partly red and MN and PA are up in the air shows that trump has some strong support whether you like him or not. I hope for the good of the world, Hilary loses.
 
I just don't think any previous "rules" apply to this election. I know far too many democrats who hate Hillary and far too many Republicans who hate Trump.
 
Not good bets. What about fl?

The fate of the world is dependent on this election. Globalism VS nationalism. This will undoubtedly be the last chance ever of having a none bought real candidate. They didn't expect social media to play such a role but now you have YT going after alt media channels, Hilary going after frog memes, and the overall crack down on any independent voice that isn't a media shill for the establishment. Nobody likes trump, the dude says stupid shit constantly, and steps in it. People are voting against the past 60 years of political establishment. They killed Kennedy for so much less I'm doubting trump lives long if he does win.
 
Sure why not. Man this is gonna be a decent bet. Tbh I wish it was switched around though. I'd gladly payout if trump won and getting a little payout if the end of the free world comes, might take some of the sting out of it ;)

I do it in sports betting all the time betting against my teams in close games. So if I lose I win
 
. Nobody likes trump, the dude says stupid shit constantly, and steps in it. People are voting against the past 60 years of political establishment. .

while I agree with you on this. Before I hear trump speak I was thinking of supporting him. As much as I hate establishment politicians....I'll wait till the next election and another outside candidate to vote against the establishment.

trump has not made a slight effort to learn anything about the world in order to sound intelligent. He sounds exactly like he did a year ago and has zero new talking points, knowledge.

someone that cant even crack a book to study for being president I can't get behind. people study to pass highschool....this guy is too lazy to study to be presedent depite going to "a really great school" "having a great brain" and "a like...really high IQ"
 
Obamas 2nd term is proof enough lol

proof that nobody wanted Romney. I think Romney lost because he represents everthing that people are disgusted with as far as income inequality....even the poor working class whites supporting trump probably hated Romney for this reason
 
proof that nobody wanted Romney. I think Romney lost because he represents everthing that people are disgusted with as far as income inequality....even the poor working class whites supporting trump probably hated Romney for this reason

If you live in an echo chamber its hard to contemplate someone actually voting for the candidate you oppose. In my neighborhood I see nothing but Trump and Bernie signs but that's like maybe one or two houses per block. It's easy to ignore all the other houses. Same with cars. I've only seen one Hillary bumper sticker since the election started and I live in an incredibly pro Hillary state but I've seen literally hundreds of Trump and Bernie ones. People don't understand this doesn't translate into votes, neither does stadium attendance during a speech. A lot of people loved and still love Obama especially in minority and older communities, the people that actually go out and vote. Just because you personally don't know anyone that supported him doesn't mean anything.

Not to say fraud and rigging don't happen of course they do but its not as easy as "they've rigged it from the start"
 
couple of interesting items as we get closer:

Donald Trump’s Slip in Polls Has G.O.P. Worried About Congress
Donald J. Trump’s support has plunged across the swing-state map over the last 10 days, wiping out his political recovery from September and threatening to undo weeks of Republican gains in the battle for control of Congress.

For his party, Mr. Trump’s reversal in fortune comes at the worst possible moment: Having muted their criticism of Mr. Trump in hopes that he could at least run competitively through Election Day, Republicans must decide in the next few days, rather than weeks, whether to seek distance from his wobbly campaign.

Should Mr. Trump falter badly in his second debate with Hillary Clinton on Sunday in St. Louis, Republican congressional candidates may take it as a cue to flee openly from their nominee, said two senior Republicans involved at high levels of the campaign who spoke on the condition of anonymity because they were not authorized to discuss private party strategy.

Mr. Trump has already slipped perceptibly in public polls, trailing widely this week in Pennsylvania and by smaller margins in Florida and North Carolina — three states he cannot afford to lose. But private polling by both parties shows an even more precipitous drop, especially among independent voters, moderate Republicans and women, according to a dozen strategists from both parties who spoke on the condition of anonymity because the data was confidential.
(my emphasis)

Election Update: Clinton’s Lead Is Becoming Safer
With more voters committed to one of the two major-party nominees, Trump simply has fewer people he can appeal to in order to make up his current deficit, which makes Clinton’s lead more secure. A 5-percentage-point lead with about 15 percent of the electorate undecided or voting for a third-party candidate (about where the race currently stands) is far better than a 5-point lead with over 20 percent of the electorate undecided or voting for a third-party candidate (about where the race was in mid-June). That’s part of the reason that Clinton’s chances of winning the election are in the upper 70s now, while they were in the low 70s back in June.
(my emphasis)

alasdair
 
Did you see the latest email dump of clintons? Her foundation worked with the NYT on a story about sanders, john Oliver was in contact with them, they guided a number of publications on how to handle her scandals. Man, if the mainstream media covers her emails she will have a lot to answer for. Hopefully they recover something that will finally get her in prison!
 
polling suggests that people are increasingly giving more weight to the fact that trump is unfit for the office that they are to clinton's email issue.

alasdair
 
Lmao bc her emailing is the issue?? It's the content of those emails. The fact that she has the media doing her bidding disgusts me. Hopefully there are enough deplorables to stop this monster. I don't trust polls. And the amount of democrat voter fraud stories coming out is down right alarming. They joke about the dead voting for Hilary, but that appears to be the case :\
 
very little that's coming out about trump is good as people are learning the kind of man he is and how that makes him unfit to hold the office.

he's also been talking a lot about his business acumen and how the fact that he's a successful businessman makes him the guy to fix the country. except things keep coming out that suggest he's not a successful business man at all and people are starting to doubt him there too.

Lmao bc her emailing is the issue??
what are you talking about. the phrase i used was "clinton's email issue".

alasdair
 
oh man....its fun watching the republican party implode on itself with every single time trump makes an ass hat of himself. The party is collapsing, its supporters are racists with no education from the south that are poor or the one percent. lol oh man its so much fun to watch this party go to utter shit.


his most recent comments are the nail in the coffin...can't wait for hillary to use it as ammo and further humiliate him in another debate
 
oh man....its fun watching the republican party implode on itself with every single time trump makes an ass hat of himself. The party is collapsing, its supporters are racists with no education from the south that are poor or the one percent. lol oh man its so much fun to watch this party go to utter shit.


his most recent comments are the nail in the coffin...can't wait for hillary to use it as ammo and further humiliate him in another debate
Funny you mention that, almost 70% of people on food stamps vote democrat. Democrats would lose every election if poor people couldn't vote

<---Lifelong blue voter :D
 
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