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2016 American Presidential Campaign

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The NY media trying to inject themselves into this now. Hillarys already used 9/11 for political gain so I guess her acolytes are going for Sandy Hook. I hope Bernies prepared for it next thursday because hillarys comin for his nuts.
 
^True, but it was also an inconvenient time for this Panama Papers business to come out. Especially seeing that Sanders' record will show that he voted against the bill that allowed it to occur, while clinton fought tooth and nail for it as SoS.

Not to mention his long history of voting against similar agreements. It's not just rhetoric.
 
Reports are that an international group of over 100 reporters kept this info a secret for over a year. It wouldn't surprise me if them deciding to release the Panama Papers now was an attempt to affect the election.
 
If that's the case, then I doubt we'll ever see any major Americans implicated in it all. If they've had a year to prepare its presentation and the goal is to influence American politics, then anything related to the US would be right at the top of the release.

And 100+ people keeping a secret this big for over a year...Gives me hope that reptiles from Area 51 may actually have killed JFK :)
 
Really, no. Really, really no.

What?


If that's the case, then I doubt we'll ever see any major Americans implicated in it all. If they've had a year to prepare its presentation and the goal is to influence American politics, then anything related to the US would be right at the top of the release.

And 100+ people keeping a secret this big for over a year...Gives me hope that reptiles from Area 51 may actually have killed JFK :)

Basically the only country that was left out of the leak was the United States. The head of the reporters consortium that leaked it said "Just wait until you see what's next" when asked why there wasn't any info on United States politicians/businesses in the leak.
 
I guess it seems like nearly all of the investigators were working on one or two stories/leads over that time and probably weren't told that they were part of something bigger. The more compartmentalised the effort, the more I'd be willing to believe it could happen.

I did find it a bit odd that a day or two after the Papers story broke, there were already reactionary documentaries online about it that showed journalists globe-trekking for interviews. I'm thinking...this lady's been in Central America, the Caribbean and the South Pacific already and the story just broke yesterday...
 
Sorry I was mistaken, it was 400 reporters. Maybe you should read this.

Fair enough, seems you are right and the documents were hacked about a year ago. I still think your supposition that they were withheld to coincide with the US election is verging on the paranoia/wish fulfillment and a tad US-centric. But kudos for pointing out I was wrong in the first instance.
 
I just think it's weird they decided to release the leak 2 weeks before the primary that will most likely determine the Democratic nominee. Especially considering there are several Hillary ties in the leak.

Unrelated: Hillary's attempt to politicize Sandy Hook today is probably the most disgusting thing I've ever seen in a presidential race.

https://twitter.com/HillaryClinton/status/717797172154998784
 
Eleven million documents requiring very thorough analysis?
I'm surprised it's only taken a year
 
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Hmm, that's pretty much the same argument as is charging drug dealers for murder after overdoses. I am unsure how these perspectives get so popular, as they make absolutely no sense once you apply rationality to them for even a few seconds. Oh wait, it's because it's a society that cares more about who is to blame for problems, who can we punish, send to jail and make rape jokes about, than how to practically fix broken situations and reduce such problems in the future...sigh...
 
If that's the case, then I doubt we'll ever see any major Americans implicated in it all.

Americans don't generally use Panama.

A report by US website Politico suggested that Americans who wanted to avoid taxes preferred other places, like Bermuda, the Cayman Islands or Singapore, and not Panama.
These countries speak English, operate under a derivative of English common law and have political systems seen as more stable, it said.
"If there was a leak from Singapore, as opposed to Panama, which is what we have so far, we might find more [evasion]," Reuven Avi-Yonah, a law professor at the University of Michigan, told Politico.
He said estimates of the annual costs of illegal tax evasion for the US ranged from $20bn (£14bn) to $70bn.
However, Mr Sharp said US laws like the Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act (FATCA) and other cross-border initiatives had meant that the "tax evasion game [was] principally over for American taxpayers".
"The list of known countries used by Americans to evade taxes is growing shorter as the day grows longer," he said.

It seems there's still some ties to Clinton(s) though;
http://dailycaller.com/2016/04/05/hillary-clinton-ties-emerge-in-panama-papers/
http://www.ibtimes.com/panama-paper...enefits-tax-loopholes-while-she-calls-2349440

This would be a good time for Bernie to engage in a bit of strategic mud-slinging, otherwise the Clinton PR machine will bury it.
 
Hmm, that's pretty much the same argument as is charging drug dealers for murder after overdoses. I am unsure how these perspectives get so popular, as they make absolutely no sense once you apply rationality to them for even a few seconds. Oh wait, it's because it's a society that cares more about who is to blame for problems, who can we punish, send to jail and make rape jokes about, than how to practically fix broken situations and reduce such problems in the future...sigh...

It's hilarious because she had Sen. Murphy from CT attacking Bernie on Twitter yesterday about his stance on gun manufacturer liability too(He's a Superdelegate pledged to Hillary).

The biggest export of CT is airplane parts. Do you think he supports holding those manufacturers responsible for plane crash deaths?
 
Holding gun manufacturers responsible for gun deaths is an unbelievably stupid and unreasonable idea. I'm convinced it comes more out of the feeling that doing something is better than doing nothing and after being frustrated by lobbying and congress for decades the democrats just want to pass something that they can claim as a victory.
 
Technically speaking, Clinton should be in favour of guns/weapons manufacturers being punished for all of those Syrian or Mexican gun deaths when the guns fell into the wrong hands...Oh wait, they're not white Americans.

For every person who could be sat down and this hypocrisy explained to him/her in a way that would make sense and lead to a change-of-opinion on the issue, a half dozen other people will just stare at you and be like "double-standards...haha...what...I hate guns and drugs, but airplane parts are harmless..." So it's more difficult than getting the word out. It's explaining a point to someone that is beyond that person's logical comprehension. The bar is set really freakin' low in many places.
 
Fun Fact: When Hillary campaigned against Obama in the 2008 primaries she accused him of being too liberal and strict on guns and she took a much more pro-gun approach.

Another fun fact: it'd be laughable if it wasn't so sad that Hillary wants to tall about guns when she sold more arms to dictators than any entity in America did during Bush's 8 years in office.
 
We I'm happier than a pig in shit. Even though nobody expressed the kind of outrage I was expecting over the Sandy Hook thing, actual relatives of the murdered children are speaking out against Hillary's attempt to use their deaths for political gain. Shit totally backfired on her like it should have.
 
We I'm happier than a pig in shit. Even though nobody expressed the kind of outrage I was expecting over the Sandy Hook thing, actual relatives of the murdered children are speaking out against Hillary's attempt to use their deaths for political gain. Shit totally backfired on her like it should have.

Do you think these series of attacks on Bernie from Hillarys acolytes and the media will hurt him enough in NY to keep him from winning?
 
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