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I didn't even care about the election those years. I voted Ron Paul both elections. Romney is the same as Clinton in my view. This is our last chance at a non globalist shill bought and paid for politician. Hilary Clinton told those bankers she wants open trade and open borders. She will use executive action with the second amendment. The list goes on forever. Wiki leaks is not being detested as false by the Hilary camp. I dislike Mitch McConnell more than I dislike Clinton. The establishment does not have the American people's interests in mind. Sometimes I wish I could be a non thinking overly emotional optimist like some of you guys. Would be so much easier, but I've never liked kool aid.
 
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Droppersneck said:
I didn't even care about the election those years.
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i was talking about this bit: "a claim she denied in a sworn affidavit."

Droppersneck said:
The establishment does not have the American people's interests in mind.
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trump is as establishment as they come and neither does he.

Droppersneck said:
Sometimes I wish I could be a non thinking overly emotional optimist like some of you guys. Would be so much easier, but I've never liked kool aid.
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yeah, the only true free-thinkers are people you agree with and who agree with you...

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alasdair
 
Lmao if the dead couldn't vote, they didn't bus in the mentally impaired, etc the dems would never win another election. Over all total offices held are overwhelmingly republican. The electoral college votes start in democratic favor for recent times presidential elections.

Canada wouldn't even consider having people be able to vote without an ID. And they have one of the world biggest, most prominent, social justice warrior leader. Voter ID is about voter fraud in one form or another. In today's age you can't buy, rent, or enter anything without one. Including government programs that require ID.
 
Droppersneck said:
Lmao if the dead couldn't vote, they didn't bus in the mentally impaired, etc the dems would never win another election. Over all total offices held are overwhelmingly republican. The electoral college votes start in democratic favor for recent times presidential elections.

Canada wouldn't even consider having people be able to vote without an ID. And they have one of the world biggest, most prominent, social justice warrior leader. Voter ID is about voter fraud in one form or another. In today's age you can't buy, rent, or enter anything without one. Including government programs that require ID.
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Better stock up on magazines. Picked up 6 45rd mags for my ak74 and 6 22rd mags for my big black glock. Going to be picking up several thousand rounds over the next 3 weeks.
 
Solution is simple - easy to get, free voter ID cards for everyone. We could even have some sort of reimbursement for transportation and any necessary documents.

Of course, that's if voter ID is about election integrity, instead of if it's about discouraging poorer voters.
 
There is absolutely no evidence that voter fraud is any kind of problem. Its just the republicans excuse for why they cant win a national election.
 
Ryan01 said:
Better stock up on magazines. Picked up 6 45rd mags for my ak74 and 6 22rd mags for my big black glock. Going to be picking up several thousand rounds over the next 3 weeks.
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ive gotten AR lowers and mags as well as some Glock .40 30rd mags. Nothing too crazy on the ammo front. Need to
Escher's Waterfall said:
Solution is simple - easy to get, free voter ID cards for everyone. We could even have some sort of reimbursement for transportation and any necessary documents.

Of course, that's if voter ID is about election integrity, instead of if it's about discouraging poorer voters.
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Yes, I would love this idea to come to fruition. Unfortunatey this issue is about up keeping a legacy of voter fraud.
 
Droppersneck said:
Lmao if the dead couldn't vote, they didn't bus in the mentally impaired, etc the dems would never win another election. Over all total offices held are overwhelmingly republican. The electoral college votes start in democratic favor for recent times presidential elections.
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Bullshit. Post sources showing this happens enough to win elections, I mean thousands of votes not just a couple of hundred you're always going to have some shenanigans.

I've posted articles before showing the Republican party getting caught shutting down DMVs and making it more difficult to get IDs especially in poor and minority neighborhoods and gerrymandering their way to winning elections.
 
I missed their trump pussy talk and now the RWers are talking about guns :/

I just wanted to remind everyone that donald j trump claimed he could grab any woman's pussy. @60 yrs old. I'm surprised that's not how he greeted Hillary at the debate.

(Been In benzo coma for the past 4 days)
 
Trump threatening to jail his opposition if he wins is the most un-American thing I've seen this election.
 
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What? You're joking right?
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Why don't you post some evidence? Like convictions.

Why do we see all sorts of election engineering/voter suppression tactics used by parties and never a concerted effort to get people to vote more than once?

Think about it. Let's say you could realistically using a system of dead voter ids to get people to vote multiple times. They're going to have to go from precinct to precinct and wait in hour long lines which means they can only vote a few times a day (this depending on even being able to generate register enough fake information). Lets say you can get each operative to vote 20 times. So to get 10,000 votes is going to take 500 people each not working, but running around town waiting in lines which means they need to be paid and are broke as shit to start with to even want a job this dangerous and idiotic.

Who in their right mind thinks you can keep 500 broke ass people's mouths shut? Who thinks 500 people can run around and vote and not one get's caught and rats everyone else out? No one goes to the news and sells the story. This would be so incredibly risky, so shortsighted, so crazy expensive and to top it all off it wouldn't even be that effective. Even if you put in place a solid hierarchy to minimize the chance it get's back to you at the top of the organization, all it takes is one person blowing the whistle for whole thing to hurt you more than it helps.

For the amount of money this would cost campaigns could take zero risk and spend the money on all sorts of tactics that are much more effective and legal. Like buying ads or getting voter suppression laws passed.
 
Droppersneck said:
Over all total offices held are overwhelmingly republican.
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what are you talking about? and, if this is the case, then it contradicts your claim that democrats are somehow rigging elections left, right and center.

Droppersneck said:
The electoral college votes start in democratic favor for recent times presidential elections.
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what does this even mean?

alasdair
 
kong said:
Why don't you post some evidence? Like convictions.

Why do we see all sorts of election engineering/voter suppression tactics used by parties and never a concerted effort to get people to vote more than once?

Think about it. Let's say you could realistically using a system of dead voter ids to get people to vote multiple times. They're going to have to go from precinct to precinct and wait in hour long lines which means they can only vote a few times a day (this depending on even being able to generate register enough fake information). Lets say you can get each operative to vote 20 times. So to get 10,000 votes is going to take 500 people each not working, but running around town waiting in lines which means they need to be paid and are broke as shit to start with to even want a job this dangerous and idiotic.

Who in their right mind thinks you can keep 500 broke ass people's mouths shut? Who thinks 500 people can run around and vote and not one get's caught and rats everyone else out? No one goes to the news and sells the story. This would be so incredibly risky, so shortsighted, so crazy expensive and to top it all off it wouldn't even be that effective. Even if you put in place a solid hierarchy to minimize the chance it get's back to you at the top of the organization, all it takes is one person blowing the whistle for whole thing to hurt you more than it helps.

For the amount of money this would cost campaigns could take zero risk and spend the money on all sorts of tactics that are much more effective and legal. Like buying ads or getting voter suppression laws passed.
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What are your thoughts on this?

Do you know who this man is?
 
ArCi said:
What are your thoughts on this?

Do you know who this man is?
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Yeah they introduce him in the video. I think he is a person who like you thinks there is some sort of coordinated campaign to get people voting more than once.

I think for the reasons I just outlined that this is a silly idea. Some guy rambling about buses doesn't make the idea any more workable.

I mean getting the id isn't even the hard part or where this would go wrong in a double or more voting scheme. If an organization can somehow get information on a bunch of registered voters (particularly dead voters) so they have names to put down, getting fake ids for people is certainly possible. The real issue is herding the legion of crackheads they're going to need employ and coordinate to move the needle. Paying these people and keeping them quite would be much more expensive and likely to fail than printing them off realistic ids.

This would require a vast conspiracy of crackheads working together and keeping the whole thing quite. How is it possible this sort of thing has been going on and no one has every provided any evidence?
 
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