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He'll be out this week for sure, then philly has a bye. He'll be good to go at that point unless something extreme happens. At least I hope so.

And I watched that hit live, he is on my fantasy team so I was scared when he was on the field motionless and they went to commercial.
 
I don't think Philly is that legit of a contender, yet. it's nice that they have two top-tier QBs in Vick and Kolb, but I feel that they need to find an identity on offense and stick with it. teams that run a dual QB system in the NFL usually fail, historically speaking.

they do have a good defense and they do play in the wide-open NFC East so anything can happen. but I don't think they are anywhere near elite and if they do make the playoffs they are bound for an early exit.

they have done leaps and bounds better this year than anyone else has expected
 
With the new rules, its going to be interesting how the games pan out this week. But make no mistake: this is going to effect the outcome of the season.

Worst case scenario is fans boycotting the NFL as it will officially be a "pansie league" in the words of Troy Palamalu.
 
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And I watched that hit live, he is on my fantasy team so I was scared when he was on the field motionless and they went to commercial.
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you were concerned because you might lose fantasy points?

i was concerned because you know, er, the guy might have been hurt really badly...

alasdair
 
it is very interesting that the NFL's rules with protecting players from viscous hits started essentially due to Pittsburgh Steelers:

1. the Mel Blount Rule - most might not know of former Steelers corner Mel Blount, but he is perhaps one of the greatest corners to ever play the game. the Mel Blount Rule was reinstated in the late 70s because Blount was known to physically harass wide receiver's with his "bump and run" technique. he would physically overpower the WRs at the line of scrimmage (the bump) and then follow them closely down the field (the run). because of this, the NFL made it only legal for the defensive players to contact the receivers during the first 5 yards.

2. the Hines Ward Rule - due to Hines Ward ending a couple of defense backs' seasons, this rule was created in 2009. Hines Ward made a habit of striking fear in the heart of defenders by viciously blocking them when they weren't paying attention, but still running towards the play. now it is illegal for a player to blindside another with their helmet, forearms, or shoulders. so what can you use then to block??

3. the James Harrison Rule - James Harrison has said that he tries to hurt his opposing offensive players, yet he doesn't try to injure them. due to the malicious style of Harrison's (mostly legal) hits, and due to him sidelining two of the Cleveland Browns last weekend, the NFL has instigated a policy against cringe-worthy tackles.

thanks to Commissioner Goodell the NFL is taking baby steps away from being the game that longtime fans love to watch :\ I say let them play football god dammit, they are being paid more than enough and they know the risks due to the violent nature of the game
 
i'm disgusted by the NFL this morning. they are a money making machine and far and away the best run corporation in professional sports but they're blatently contradicting themselves with these fines.

i just learned this morning that you can go to nfl.com and purchase pictures of the hits that took place on sunday for $175. terrible. you're going to fine these guys for what, in my opinion, where good hits/collisions and then sell the fucking pictures online? that is disgraceful.

also, they say they want to protect the players yet they want to add 2 games to the schedule. from the first mention of adding 2 games i did not agree with it. now, after all of the talk of "protecting their players" i'm even more against it than before.

look, i get it. corporations are greedy, it doesn't matter if you're wal mart or the NFL, you're in it for the money. but anyone that can't see just how greedy they've become is either missing a chromosone or not paying attention. and it's not like they need the extra money, sunday alone the NFL crushed the MLB playoffs in numbers.

it makes me sick. i'm all for letting these guys play but please don't contradict yourself and say you're protecting your players. we all know that's bullshit. they could care less about the players, they care about the numbers. not to mention the inconsistancy with the fines. again, those hits were not fine worthy IMO. but even if they were, don't fine these guys then sell pictures of the exact hits on your official website. all the while talking about adding 2 games to an already brutal season and try to tell the public that you're doing your best to protect the players.

sorry for the rant, i hope that made sense.
 
axl blaze said:
it is very interesting that the NFL's rules with protecting players from viscous hits started essentially due to Pittsburgh Steelers:

1. the Mel Blount Rule - most might not know of former Steelers corner Mel Blount, but he is perhaps one of the greatest corners to ever play the game. the Mel Blount Rule was reinstated in the late 70s because Blount was known to physically harass wide receiver's with his "bump and run" technique. he would physically overpower the WRs at the line of scrimmage (the bump) and then follow them closely down the field (the run). because of this, the NFL made it only legal for the defensive players to contact the receivers during the first 5 yards.

2. the Hines Ward Rule - due to Hines Ward ending a couple of defense backs' seasons, this rule was created in 2009. Hines Ward made a habit of striking fear in the heart of defenders by viciously blocking them when they weren't paying attention, but still running towards the play. now it is illegal for a player to blindside another with their helmet, forearms, or shoulders. so what can you use then to block??

3. the James Harrison Rule - James Harrison has said that he tries to hurt his opposing offensive players, yet he doesn't try to injure them. due to the malicious style of Harrison's (mostly legal) hits, and due to him sidelining two of the Cleveland Browns last weekend, the NFL has instigated a policy against cringe-worthy tackles.

thanks to Commissioner Goodell the NFL is taking baby steps away from being the game that longtime fans love to watch :\ I say let them play football god dammit, they are being paid more than enough and they know the risks due to the violent nature of the game
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Really??? The James Harrison Rule?? you most certainly are a steelers fan, there were 3 big hits this weekend, and 3 ppl fined, i dont think harrisons was the most malicious nor was the rule named after him, also the rule has been in place it is just goin to be inforced more
 
Half of both defenses are going to be suspended for this weekend's Miami-Pittsburgh game. Both teams play extremely physical and will be negatively impacted by these rules.

The Cowboys will now be Superbowl contenders, nobody plays softer than they do.
 
^ thankfully the NFC looks weak again. what happened to all of their offenses? the Eagles would be around the 8th best team in the AFC, but the are about the 3rd best in the NFC.

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Half of both defenses are going to be suspended for this weekend's Miami-Pittsburgh game. Both teams play extremely physical and will be negatively impacted by these rules.

The Cowboys will now be Superbowl contenders, nobody plays softer than they do.
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haha! very true. this just in, the Dallas Cowboys, San Diego Chargers, and the Cincinnati Bengals are now Super Bowl contenders due to the league's steps towards flag football.

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Really??? The James Harrison Rule?? you most certainly are a steelers fan, there were 3 big hits this weekend, and 3 ppl fined, i dont think harrisons was the most malicious nor was the rule named after him, also the rule has been in place it is just goin to be inforced more
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I am a Steelers fan, and while the rule wasn't created JUST because of him; the rule was created MOSTLY because of him. if you think the new rule was instigated only because of last weekend's hits, you're crazy. just look at the biggest stage in all of sports, when the Steelers were last in the Super Bowl. Harrison was fined twice for vicious hits, and regular softie Bob Costas (who obviously think football is a violent sport and loves baseball) just wanted to talk about the roughness of the Steelers and not Ben Roethlisberger's Joe Montana-esque last drive.

but, lets keep a window on this rule's timetable to last week. 4-5 players had vicious hits on the defense. out of all of those players, they had one vicious hit. Harrison had two, and he sidelined perhaps the best Browns offensive players. so even through last weekend, the rule was mostly made to target James Harrison.

as ChickenScratch said, this is an obvious new enforcement to make sure the NFL can reach their wanted 18 game schedule. pure football fanatics like me watch the NFL (more than college) because the defense play so marvelously, artistically, and viciously. what's next? I keep on hearing rumors on how the NFL is going to widen the field??
 
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Half of both defenses are going to be suspended for this weekend's Miami-Pittsburgh game. Both teams play extremely physical and will be negatively impacted by these rules.

The Cowboys will now be Superbowl contenders, nobody plays softer than they do.
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maybe the cowboys are tired of getting fucking stupid penalties from flag-friendly refs
 
melange said:
you guys are fucking idiots if you think CONCUSSIONS(traumatic brain injury) have any place in football


join the fucking 21st century
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The NFL is already doing better with its post-concussion syndrome shit, which I agree with. They still do not understand how these kinds of brain injuries work. The constant jarring hits players take, regardless of how hard they are, cause brain damage. Look no further than Chris Henry. O-lineman and D-lineman, even if they do not receive a concussion in their entire career, still show impaired frontal lobe function simply by running into the opposing team play after play and rattling their brain around. These rules are of no actual benefit to the players.

One concussion isn't too bad. Multiple concussions in a short period of time are devastating. Remember that when trying to understand this issue.
 
it's amusing to me seeing how the act of receiving a concussion has suddenly been tripled with attention and importance in all stages of football. I agree that multiple concussions are scary and most likely produce long-term consequences. however, back when I played high school football and a little bit of college, coaches and trainers assumed concussions and football simply go hand-in-hand and not that big of a deal. sure, you might be sidelined for the rest of the game if you failed those essentially inept "concussion tests," but never for much longer than that. sometimes, it was difficult for me to realize if I even had suffered a concussion in the game, if it was mild enough

typing that definitely made me feel like a jaded old-timer, but it was not too long ago

I realize that concussions are dangerous, and I do think that "head-hunting" a player while tackling should be a personal foul and perhaps should warrant a fine

but the NFL is cracking down on defensive players that simply and innocently just light up offensive players with their tackles. the first James Harrison tackle that sent Josh Cribbs of the Browns out of the game was a tackle made by a defender hitting the ball carrier. the ball carrier has the ability to deliver the blow (think about Adrian Peterson and Hines Ward) and the ball carrier is taught to keep his head on a swivel to make sure he doesn't get lit up. by the rules of the NFL, it is not possible to punish a defender viciously hitting the ball carrier, as long as the hit is not late or doesn't include helmet-to-helmet

this absurd fine is punishing NFL teams with punishing defense (as 3, 4 pointed out both the Dolphins and Steelers have em - so what can they do)? it punishes defensive players most unfairly

think about the highlights you have seen of Adrian Peterson and the like, running over a defensive player. why are the offensive players not penalized the same?

let me say it again - I agree that helmet-to-helmet hits and headhunting or spearing a player should be illegal in the NFL. however, if you are making a play on the RB (who has the ball) and/or the WR (who just caught the ball) there is nothing a ref should punish as long as the hit was legal

plus, how is the NFL going to define these "vicious hits"?! this newly reinforced rule is so subjective and lends itself to human error. answer me that one?

essentially, yet another bullshit Roger Goodell flag-football rule is going to dilute the spirit of football. nice call Commi$h, specially since NFL.com was selling blown-up pictures of these offending hits (the James Harrison and the Eagles collision) on their website (I think these were taken down as of now)

what is next? doing away with kick-offs and punts just because it's so dangerous having an entire team run full-on and collide against another entire team? are we going to "widen the field" because the defense has the advantage (bullshit in the modern day NFL with Manning, Brees, etc)?

James Harrison has been saying (joking, I hope) on talk radio stations that he is thinking about retirement. such players like him play with such brutal poetry that it's a shame to tamper with such an incredible player by such incredulous means
 
melange said:
you guys are fucking idiots if you think CONCUSSIONS(traumatic brain injury) have any place in football


join the fucking 21st century
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NO thanks.. the 21 century seems to be some pansie politically correct reality where truth doesnt matter cause it hurts peoples feelings.
 
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