20 years old: Will Testosterone replacement make me bald?

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bigkarl

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My level was tested as part of a routine in october (have hypothyroidism), and my total level was 481 with a very slightly low free level. I went on 2 pumps of androgel a day for about a month and a half and it increased facial hair growth, but my level was down to 320 and my free level was even lower. So the dose was moved up to 5 pumps a day and while i have not yet got the blood work, I grew .5 inches (from 6.05 in- 6'1) and went from 181- 212 and size 36 jeans instead of 34's. And got way stronger from lifting weights. I can now squat 265 instead of 115, for example.

So needless to say, despite having yet to see the bloodwork, my level is increased. However how great is the risk of going bald from increasing your testosterone level? Because I was thinking of having my doc increase the dose from 5 pumps to 8...
 
auhsoJ said:
If there's baldness in your family it may happen. There's no real way to prevent it. There are several ways to reduce or halt it but all are temporary. It's as simple as that.

http://www.hairloss-research.org/steroids.html
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Well my hair is thick, Dad is 50 and has full hair, older bro is 24 and has a very slight receding hairline, uncle is 45 and has a bit of a bald spot, and my grandfather has moderate hairloss but is 75. I wasn't too worried before, but with the testosterone it would increase the risk outside of genetics, no?


If you got off of testosterone replacement will you be badly shutdown or will you just go back to where you were before?
 
According to probability you may or may not carry the gene. I was worried about that myself as both my father and half brother basically lost there hair.

I recently ran 500mg test/8 weeks and didn't notice any loss. I took the precaution of using Nizoral shampoo and my hair become very brittle and dry. (It's use probably caused problems where I had none before)

I don't know much about TRT but I'd imagine it'd be like a really long cycle. The longer the cycle the more shutdown you'll be. I wonder doctors have some kind of PCT program. I thought TRT was you get on and stay on.
 
i heard or maybe read that the bald trait is inherited from the grand-maternal side, not directly paternal...

edit: err let me rephrase that. the mother of your father, so look at your granny.

and other factors can determine going bald. heres one example: eating too many raw eggs can lead to a deficiency in biotin, via egg albumin binding, preventing absorption.
therefore im not an advid believer in testosterone causing baldness. perhaps increases muscle turnover from the use of T will cause a deficiency in essential nutrients, giving the appearance of going bald. yes dht in the scalp can cause baldness as research shows, but why does it affect some more adversly than others? diet is everything. you are what you eat is a very serious and literal term.
 
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bigkarl said:
My level was tested as part of a routine in october (have hypothyroidism), and my total level was 481 with a very slightly low free level. I went on 2 pumps of androgel a day for about a month and a half and it increased facial hair growth, but my level was down to 320 and my free level was even lower. So the dose was moved up to 5 pumps a day and while i have not yet got the blood work, I grew .5 inches (from 6.05 in- 6'1) and went from 181- 212 and size 36 jeans instead of 34's. And got way stronger from lifting weights. I can now squat 265 instead of 115, for example.

So needless to say, despite having yet to see the bloodwork, my level is increased. However how great is the risk of going bald from increasing your testosterone level? Because I was thinking of having my doc increase the dose from 5 pumps to 8...
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Bro Google My Current best thoughts for TRT by Dr John Crisler. U should blast and cruise to. 3 months trt then 3 months running it at higher dose.

If your hypothyroid and hypogonad u will lose your hair if dispositioned to it.Go to the hair cuttery and ask for a number 1 and u will see you still look good almost bald
 
joeyjoejoeshabadoo said:
i heard or maybe read that the bald trait is inherited from the grand-maternal side, not directly paternal...

edit: err let me rephrase that. the mother of your father, so look at your granny.

and other factors can determine going bald. heres one example: eating too many raw eggs can lead to a deficiency in biotin, via egg albumin binding, preventing absorption.
therefore im not an advid believer in testosterone causing baldness. perhaps increases muscle turnover from the use of T will cause a deficiency in essential nutrients, giving the appearance of going bald. yes dht in the scalp can cause baldness as research shows, but why does it affect some more adversly than others? diet is everything. you are what you eat is a very serious and literal term.
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Its actually the father of your mother....
 
idk, my grandmother has type 2 diabetes. none of her sons have it, yet, all her sons children do, ie: me, my sister and all my cousins.
also, my grandmother has a lot of endocrine hormone imbalances. once again, none of her sons do, but my sis has hypothyroid, two of my cousins have cushings,
and one has hirsutism. i have low T and thyroid + pituitary problems. the only one(if there were a such thing as coincidences) to pass these problems along is my grandmother.

*but hair loss like i had said, was given to men from their fathers mother, is backward. its as pmo said its from mothers father. i did however come across somethings showing that men are actually succeptable to both maternal and paternal, as daughters require the defect from both x chromosomes, while the sons only require one.

if anyone can figure this out and apply it to their maternal/paternal sides, i think you would find your answer. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/X-linked

its like Kosmo Kramer said, "It's mother nature, Jerry, she's a maaaaaaad scientist!"


*In addition(look it up ifyawunt) they are finding now that MEMORIES are passed along from generation to generation. makes me wonder about deja-vu...
 
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what does your mom's dad look like? thats you.. if he has hair, you dont have anything to worry about. if he is bald, there ya go.
 
OP what country are you in? You're on HRT at 20 years of age? You know that you will be on it forever right>
 
what does your mom's dad look like? thats you.. if he has hair, you dont have anything to worry about. if he is bald, there ya go.
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I don't know why people accept this old wive's tale, it's just not true. The only genes that can be inherited from only one grandparent are those on the Y-chromosome, which come from your father's father. Any others have an equal chance of being inherited from any one of your grandparents.
 
So to clear this whole misunderstanding once and for all..

From whom does one inherit their outstanding baldness genes?
 
It is more complicated in that, there are more than one genes involved.

"Much research went into the genetic component of male pattern baldness, or androgenetic alopecia (AGA). Research indicates that susceptibility to premature male pattern baldness is largely X-linked. Other genes that are not sex linked are also involved.

German researchers name the androgen receptor gene as the cardinal prerequisite for balding.[7] They conclude that a certain variant of the androgen receptor is needed for AGA to develop. In the same year the results of this study were confirmed by other researchers.[8] This gene is recessive and a female would need two X chromosomes with the defect to show typical male pattern alopecia. Seeing that androgens and their interaction with the androgen receptor are the cause of AGA it seems logical that the androgen receptor gene plays an important part in its development.

Other research in 2007 suggests another gene on the X chromosome, that lies close to the androgen receptor gene, is an important gene in male pattern baldness. They found the region Xq11-q12 on the X-chromosome to be strongly associated with AGA in males. They point at the EDA2R gene as the gene that is mostly associated with AGA. This finding has been replicated in at least three following independent studies.

Other genes involved with hair loss have been found. One of them being a gene on chromosome 3. The gene is located at 3q26.[9] This gene is also involved in a type of baldness associated with mental retardation. This gene is recessive .

Another gene that might be involved in hair loss is the P2RY5. This gene is linked to hair structure. Certain variants can lead to baldness at birth while another variant causes "wooly hair".[10]

Recent research confirmed the X linked androgen receptor as the most important gene. With a gene on chromosome 20 being the second most important determinant gene (snpedia)"

from wikipedia, Baldness - genetics
 
Since the most important genes are on x-chromosome you generally get it from your mom(not necessarily from her father though) but there are non-sex related genes involved, and I have also read about a recently discovered gene on the y-chromosome being involved in baldness.

All this is basically why there are so many different types and degrees of baldness.

I wouldn't worry about it, if you are going to go bald just accept it, you will waste too much time/money trying to prevent it with little results. If it bothers you too much you can always get a hair transplant procedure done, until then I wouldn't waste my time with it.

I went through it all in my early 20's. My dad is bald, all my grandparents were bald(even grandmothers), my hair started to recede in the front on the sides(I think its called a widows peak). I thought I was going bald, did all the research about ways to prevent/slow it down, and decided it wasn't worth it, the shampoos and ointments are generally uneffective and propecia has terrible long term side effects, you don't want to take that stuff.

Thankfully it stopped, my widows peaks aren't even very deep and look good. No thinning anywhere else or in the back. And remember, ALL my grandparents and my dad were bald. I have an older brother who has thicker hair than me and no widows peak or thinning or anything for him either. Guess we just got lucky.
 
Excessive biotin might help. Life sucks unless you have the genetics. Why don't ever ser bald homeless dudes? They always have thick manes. Someone should research them.
 
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