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2-Ce (23mg) - 2nd time - My dissapointment

forest walker

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I consider myself fairly well versed in the world of psychs and after weeks of nonstop work fall break from school finally got here and well quiet frankly, I wanted to trip balls for a while. Other than a benzo or two along with a little addy for the all-nighters studying I hadn't touched any drugs for several weeks. BTW I'm excluding grass because grass is just essential to everyday. Anyrate I had tried 18mg of 2-Ce previously and it failed to bring the desired effects and that particular trip I ended up doing some DPT that put things where I wanted them. Now this time I wanted to see what 2-Ce would do on a higher dose and so 23mg was massed out the night before and the next morning I got all my ducks in a row, music, movies, food, everything the apt. in it's proper place, etc. I went to my 50min. class and dosed right before it started. I will add that I only had a very light lunch but earlier had had a good healthy breakfast. With that, here's the report.

1.20 - 23 mg 2-Ce, oral, had a good breakfast but not much lunch
1.50 - feeling 'chemicals' in my stomach and restless
2.10 - get out of class and am glad, 2 hour till fist hints my foot, shits moving
2.15 - after riding back, which the ride was great, get in and first wave of nasua hits, nothing there to come up but it tried
2.30 - Feel much better, going to take a shot and try to get to the movie store real quick before things get too far
3.00 - Made it but second wave hit and the little bread and tea I'd gotten down before didn't stay, but soon feel just fine afterwards
3.30 - I've been sitting in my chair wrapped in my favorite fleece staying warm though it's room temp, but I'm feeling a warmth beyond that of my fleece and I'm happy, and nibbling on bread too
3.50 - Can't remember when I smoked last, *think* I've had two/maybe three since I dosed so I'm starting recount now
3.50 - Smoke(2) :) and I can't believe it's already almost 4
4.10 - Decided to go for a short ride after the smoke, it was incrediably nice, feel that the 'come up' is over and I patiently wait to see what develops tonight
4.16 - Still on the rise I think but I think I found a more proper dosage
4.20 - Smoke(1), visuals are much more 'lucid' but mentally I feel as though my capacity for interaction would be fine, I have sense and feeling of compassion/and understanding,
4.40 - Sitting there thinking about my responsibilities to me, it hits me, I only dosed three hours ago...and originally I wasn't supposed to notice anything really in the first 40-50 minutes which now seems like a long time in the past
5.50 - after much delibration and another smoke I decided to eat 1 g of psyilocibin, I think it was a good decision and I'm comfortable with where everything is, thought about baseline's it but decided not tonight
6.00 - Not sure if I should have taken that g but I think it's going to work out just fine
7.00 - Certainly don't regret taking the mushrooms, things are still very much in my comfort level though I wouldn't mind if I were tripping harder,
7.30 - Had a smoke and I'm bored, visuals definately on the degrade, I wonder if I didn't get everything injested before I got sick?
8.00 - Definately back to baseline, still a little afterglow but everything that was building before just died, quiet frankly I feel cheated.

I will definately say that I don't question the power of 2-Ce in that it seemed to be taking me to a very pleasant place. The visuals were getting enjoyable but the introspect wasn't there that I was expecting from reading all the other reports. However, when I say I felt cheated I mean it. I was wanting a good hard trip and it started taking me there and then it just dropped, just dropped. I'm now out a g of mushrooms and now I'll have to wait several days before I get a chance to trip again. Had I known what the 2-Ce was going to do I'd just eaten a full 3.5 grams of mushrooms instead of the 1. I plan on giving 2-Ce another try because I like the possibilities it seems to offer but next time I'll step the dose up and hopefully that will do what I want. Maybe I have too high of expectations for 2-Ce but it has yet to really impress me. Hopefully next time...
 
My first experiences with 2c-e were also not what i expected, but there was something there that made me come back. It really seemed to get better after every trip, nowadays i get an incredibly intense, introspective and insightful trip at only 14-16mg. I have gone up to 23mg in my first couple experiences, but i cant imagine going over 20mg nowadays, 14mg now is at least twice as intense as that 23mg one back then, and 10 times as deep. an incredible compound imho
 
I have to agree with azzazza here.

My first expereiences were disappointing to say the least for what I was expecting. However I was very conservative in my dosing the first few times. I took it up to around 22mg the one time and while I got off, I was still not impressed.

Later, I did 18mg of the same batch and got my ass kicked bad. =D

So be careful in your dosing, with subseuent experiements. You may get more than you bargained for.

Also are you pretty confident in the quality and your source of the compound? Have others taken a dose from this batch and gotten off good?

I have to admit, after I got my ass kicked at 18mg (my fourth or fifth attempt with this compound), I put it away and haven't touched it since. I am looking forward to it again one of these days, but I'm not in any hurry. I've only got enough left for one or two more times anyways (at least orally), so I may experiment with it rectally to conserve what little is left.

There's something weird about how this stuff hits you. Sometimes it doesn't do much of anything, and then my last time (at 4mg less than the previous dose), I wouldn't walk out the front door of the house and refused to even go outside. Intense!

Be careful.

-gp
 
I know the quality is good because one of my close friends has been using out of the same batch with consistent responses to it. I am definately aware of psychs tendency to sometimes grab you and sometimes leave you alone even at the same doses, 5meo-dmt is one in particular that sticks out to me. I have no intentions of going overkill on the dose up, maybe 26 but I may also go with 23 again. I wonder if I have just a high metabolism rate with this since when it comes to 2-CC I tend to dose at the higher end of the spectrum. However, respect for 2-Ce is something I have plenty for but I look forward to my next try.
 
forest walker said:
I have no intentions of going overkill on the dose up, maybe 26 but I may also go with 23 again.

Oh boy. Personally I would suggest going with 23mg again and giving it another run first. The dose/response curve with this one (when it hits you) is nothing to screw around with. Every mg makes a difference.

I know that 26mg is a 'safe' dose technically speaking, but I would suggest giving the 23mg a try again first. You may be pleaseantly surprised like me and really get your ass kicked without having to up the dose.

If the quality is good, then it should hit you at 23mg. If I stay with the oral route, my next time probably won't be over 20mg. I don't see the point myself if it 'hits' me like it did the last time.

Oh yeah, next time, try it on a COMPLETLEY empty stomach. You would be amazed how long a meal can slow down the digestive tract/absorption for and really blunt the effects of things. I would suggest taking it first thing in the morning before breakfast this time. ;)

Be careful and let us know when it decides to 'hit' you, because trust me it will. =D

-gp
 
^^^ I understand the high dosage curve characteristic of 2-ce and I have thought about doing 23 again but will most likely end up doing 25-26. I also clearly saw the potential the 2-ce has too and I certainly respect that. As far as eating on a completely empty stomach, two things - first I ate one big chicken tender for lunch 20 min. before dosing, and second there was NO delay in absorbtion in that within 45-50 min. things were already squirming noticably and I was extremely restless. I'm not sure what the deal was but as all things can be, sometimes they get you and sometimes they don't. I'll post the results of my next experience.
Edit : The breakfast that I had that morning was eaten around 8.30 and consisted of two eggs over easy, two pieces of toast, and a glass of milk.
 
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