17th Issue General Heroin Discussion v. Perfect Day

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Well its not taste I am looking for, its a tingling, slightly burning sensation that I get on only the tip of the tongue when some it dabbed on there. It can almost sting if the stuff is good.

Erm no, never. Only do the taste test to tell if its sugar or some shit. Never taste to tell quality tho and never get a tingle, at least not on my tongue ;)
 
I go with this over 50/50. I just never give an addict a chance, since especially with opiates, they really can't control themselves. Beyond a certain point and it's almost like someone else doing it... Example, I had a script of Valium I gave to my friend who'd been addicted to H, got clean, and then got a minor oxycodone habit... I let him hold on to the script because I didn't want it (just got clean), and he needed them to help him get clean as well. MFer ended up eating all of them. Never trusted him again after that.

Valium? what was your script? Valium is nothing and if you got a reg. 30 day script of 5MG Valium ANYONE would rip through those in a matter of days. or been sleeping for a matter or days; they tend to put me asleep more than anything but you need at least 30MG (if you have tolerance) to feel anything. I "pretended" to use benzos so many times to HELP ME STAY or GET clean; it never worked. I'd just eat the benzos and then realize I need dope in order to wake me up from the benzo collapse.

I've done benzos pretty heavily when using dope; but I dont see the sense in using them regularly. I HONESTLY and TRULY believe it was just the addict in me using those benzos. I'd always mix w/ dope and benzos. That was a typical day for me. sometimes I would add some coke to that day but not always. dope and benzos during the day, get my nod/sleep on. then straight benzo's before bed to help me sleep. if I knew I had to work/stay up/not nod, then I would always leave out benzos.
 
Between us three, we were spending between 3-500 a day! He has a job making a ridiculous amount of money though...over 250,000 a year, he wasn't married...So no matter what happened we never really had to worry about money...It did happen once and a while, but not usually....I just took it for granted, going everyday with a stack of fresh 20s to get our shit....

Now, 2 years later, I go back home and I have no connects anymore...when I first left I gave him my 2 best phone numbers to work with so he wouldn't have to fuck with any other junkies...
but lo and behold, within a few months one of the connects got busted and the other disappeared...

He ended up calling this girl who I used to hang out with and cop and get high....I was friends with this chick, but she was a fucking hustler that you definitely didn't wanna turn your back on! He started calling her and she started copping for him....She basically started trying to use him and get free dope everyday from him...He was rich and she was a junkie, so it was inevitable...Anyway, this chick always ended up with good connects...she was a drug slut with huge tits! Anyway, he ended up getting the number for these guys from her...She got pissed that he didn't wanna give her free dope and she tried to call the dealers to tell them not to serve him...
but he was spending so much money with them, the whole plan backfired and they ended up cutting her off instead! Now my friend has that same connect to this day and they usually have great dope!

But now when I go home and wanna get high, he acts like he's on a power trip...trying to make me wait and shit...even though he has dope with him! Making me wait until the dealer comes with more before letting me get some!

Dope changes people and makes them selfish! The thing is...I know how to go out there and find new connects as needed...These guys he's going through now are good, but if something happens to them he'll be calling me up asking for me to find him dope from 1500 miles away!

guy must be living nice making that cash and having a habit. figure if you make 250k/yr then 100k goes to dope and he's only making 150k/yr, which is STILL RIDIC AMOUNT TO MAKE; depending on how you live and all.

I always thought I made good money and had good hustle but man did that dope take ALL AND THEN SOME. for 2 years of my last run I never EMPTIED my bank account; apparently my run was still adding up at the time. I always thought I'd be ahead, able to pay rent, bills, cell phone, car, insurance, go out to eat, etc. now let me bring you to the final year of my last run.. I had -600 a week in my bank account, I owed over 50k in credit cards, my cell phone would be shut off cuz I had a hard time paying and I'd have to make a move to get money for that, my rent start to drop and drop and I'd ask the GF to "borrow" cash, and FINALLY I totaled my car, had to get a new one after 6 months of losing a license, and the car had to go in another name because my driving record is terrible and insurance is sky high.

yup, it only took 1 year or a 3-4 year decent run to completely crush me. of course that year was the worst because of the tolerance I built, what I was doing to get cash, how much cash daily, NO CAR SUCKED but less bills, yay! more dope. ha. but was a huge hassle and crushed me overall.

happy 2014 is here. let's pray I stay clean throughout the year.
 
Erm no, never. Only do the taste test to tell if its sugar or some shit. Never taste to tell quality tho and never get a tingle, at least not on my tongue ;)

I wasn't really focusing on taste, should've never mentioned that. I know it doesn't mean shit. Also anywhere but the very tip of tongue, doesn't work. Well whatever, we all know the only really accurate way to determine strength is a test dose/doing some. I just feel I have a rough idea from doing it.
 
^^Yeah, he's very lucky to make that kind of money...I wont say exactly what he does, but he's one of only a handful of people out there that can do it....He started out of college 12 years ago and has been steadily getting raises...

He didn't just support my dope habit, but he's one of my best childhood friends and we got high together just about every day when he got off work...He's really the only person I've ever known that can afford to pay all his bills and still have a huge dope habit, but aside from what he puts in his 401k, he actually pretty much spends everything he takes home! I supported mine and my GFs habit by working and by hustling and "middlemanning", but between him, me and the other people I copped for, I was able to always get good deals on dope and get some pretty good connects that wouldn't give someone with a 50 dollar a day habit the time of day...

Of course, I just ended up with ridiculous habit! If I was to start doing it again, I know I'll never have the circumstances that I used to have with it, so that kind of stops me from going back to it...It's kindof cray looking back on how the whole thing escalated into what it was....It just comes a point with it where you can handle insane amounts of dope and you never really feel high, I know some of you guys know what I mean...it sucks...I've met some pretty big players who moved weight and got caught up doing it and said pretty much the same thing...One guy told me that he used to just basically take his spoon and scoop some directly out of the bag to measure his shots, and even that didn't really get him high in the end!

Of course my tolerance is low as fuck now...I couldn't believe how high I was from the dope I did last week! I was consistently doing 3-4 mgs of sub everyday for months before too, but it didn't seem to block the dope at all! but even using just 2 days with a day off in between, it took me 5 days to really feel comfortable on the sub again! It's a game I just can't play anymore! I'm lucky I'm alive and have my freedom, really lucky! Seemed like I was always one step ahead...Every couple of months someone would get grabbed I was dealing with...Where I'm from it's hard...once there's a lot of traffic in one spot it's just a matter of time until it gets raided...even doing it by car, it eventually catches up to you...I was just a customer, but I did grab a lot everyday...I always managed to swallow it though...my luck would have run out eventually!

I've even had it where I got pulled over 10 minutes away on the highway after getting seen leaving a certain area...being high on dope was the only thing that made me able to deal with the stress of dealing with that shit every day! If I was sober, I would have been terrified!
 
^yea man I know exactly what you mean when you have the luxury of unlimited cash and/or dope at your expense, things escalte rapidly. Soon, your doing shots that are thick as motor oil (if youre using tar) and youre not even getting high or a nod, youre just getting a feeling. It sucks, because you just want to feel like you did when you first started and it seems like theres no end in sight.

Eventually, like all good things it comes to an end. You use less and less, withdraw or get by with what you have now that your cash flows cut off or dried up. The first few weeks or months are HELL, actually having to hustle up money and go cop when before, dope and cash was everywhere! In my house there was dope everywhere. Wed always find big chunks stuck to our socks or on the floor that flew from when we chopped up. (tar of course) and now that you got nothin youd kill to go back to those days of pickin a big chunk of your sock!!

But im happy not to be back in those reckless days. A sky high tolerance is SUCH A BITCH. I hate when people dicksize about their tolerance. I love my mild tolerance, and with a mild tolerance are less severe wd's, if i ever need to wd...
 
Instead of leaving the 30s in a place where I could just grab them (which he had done before and I even told him to do this) he gives them to the friend of ours he was with, tells him they are for me and tells me to grab them off him. Well I call the friend who is holding them (a user but not an addict) and he tells me oh sorry I took them.

That same thing happened to me with a gram of dope. Except the girl gave it to this kid who was a straight junkie, the bag never had a chance, haha. I was pissed cause I was buying myself a treat and I knew it was fucking good, it would have lasted me weeks, but that fucker probably shot it in a fucking day.

Valium? what was your script? Valium is nothing and if you got a reg. 30 day script of 5MG Valium ANYONE would rip through those in a matter of days. or been sleeping for a matter or days; they tend to put me asleep more than anything but you need at least 30MG (if you have tolerance) to feel anything. I "pretended" to use benzos so many times to HELP ME STAY or GET clean; it never worked. I'd just eat the benzos and then realize I need dope in order to wake me up from the benzo collapse.

It was 60 10s, it wasn't nothing, he'd been in rehab and hadn't been taking any benzos. He was also with me some of this time, then binged on my Valium for a couple days and lied about it. Made it up to me by hooking me up with whatever after that but the friendship was weird after that, the trust had been broken.
 
got some shit tonight on questionable roadways. my friend's car has 4wd though so we were all good.met up with the dude and actually gave him a ride down a few blocks so he threw us an extra bag

it's not the best Ive ever had, but more than worth the price of admission

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Whats good yall! So i haven't really done any dope sence around thanksgiving so now that i got a new construction job i got the $$ to pay for it. Picked up 2 buns of some 'spongebob' bags with the name on em and his picture. (philly bags of course) I would post a pic but i dont know how to and i really dont think its that necessary. But anyway my boy says they are good and they seem a lil on the light side so im hoping he's right. He also told me that the guy we got em from has logs at a good price so i might just pick one up to have on hand instead of going for those long ass drives to pick the dope up. This new connec is about an hour round trip and when ya gotta have it that patience isa bitch!!
 
That's what's happening to me right now, I'm getting high all day and doing alof of dope cus I get it for cheap and I have a lot of money. I'm doing a bundle and Barley gettin high when just 2 months ago id be blasted off off 5-6 bags I fucked up lol
 
Heroin, the only one word that can evoke as many emotions in a person as the word "love." ... can make you feel happy, depressed, sad, euphoric, feel well, feel sick, excited, nostalgic and so on... Ah the poppy plant, do we love it or hate it? I think it was all love until the modern day chemistry got their hands on the alkaloids found within... ah but who knows.... im just babbling.
 
Well, there used to be a set around here that sold 'Sick' stamps..
Ironic, because they got me high as balls. lol
Would suck if that was a 'product is as advertised' meh

I was getting these 'Hit or Miss' bags that were the most consistent dope coming out of Brooklyn (aside from the Empire bags that were out at the same time). I remember the first time I got those bags thinking what a stupid name it was for a dope stamp. I guess it could also mean hitting a shot or missing it, but I doubt it.

If heroin wasn't so cheap and readily available, would yall slow down your use, find another DOC, or get clean?

Probably get clean (though I'm clean now anyway). I say that because when I was doing OC 80's and they got expensive I cut back a lot, until of course that dealer switched to selling dope, which made the conversion very simple for me.

Dealer: "Oh, I don't have the 80's anymore, but I have something that's 1/8th the price, that will get you at least 2x as high."
Me: "Yea, let me think about that for a second. *one second later* I'll take 4!"
 
I took a drive down to the BLUFF in ATL today...I got there and called my norm dude...phone was off...never a good sign...drove by the normal corner where the guys I usuially deal with stand..no one was there....drove down the main trapping roads once each (never go back to back on the same roads) nobody was outside working...it must have been because of how damn cold it was cuz they don't give 2 shits about the police or what may be happening with the law ( its seems that the neightbor constantly recycles the dealers about every 3 months...always someone getten put in a cop car down there everytime I go...and then they get out and get rite back it. So you realy gotta be somewhat social down there to meet folks down there and get introduced to there peeps.....but today didn't matter....no one was trappen....started to get discouraged....took a nap and waited for it warm up some and the brothas to get moven.....finally got a dub and it was so so....rite after I did the dub....good friend calls and by great luck he was in ATL for his birthday today....hes got the best connect I kno....I tell him if he takes me to his dude that ill buy him a half g for his b day....we drive over to this music studio in downtown atl...nice cars...huge rims...the whole nine...he goes in....comes back with a fat ass bag of white/beige rocks that were amazing....great quality...great quanity...everything great.....it was the perfect ending to a struggling day...didn't think I was going to be able to salvage the day....but my buddy came threw
 
Yeah man that's what happens unfortunately. It starts to get really pointless after a while. You're just spending tons of money to simply maintain and not be sick, barely getting high anymore.

the 80's and the dope become the same price at one point; you can say the dope fiends save cash but they dont; tolerance just sky rockets and you needle double the amount of dope as you once did before; if you stayed w/ you 80's then you'd still be at that high price, so there ends up on savings.

I made the switch a long time ago myself and it was because I didnt want to buy 30's anymore and so many for such a price; so why not buy bundles of dope instead. well, that bundle didnt do much more than the 30's did, so I needed more than just that bundle. long story short, I stuck w/ the dope but my cost cut a bit originally but if I were to ever and TRY to go back to those 30's, I'd prob have to pay 20x's the amount since my dope tolerance has sky rocketed (3G's a day). 8AM blast - 5PM blast - 10PM blast/nod - and then do it again. most of the time it was 2G's and I had an 8AM and 8PM blast off. sounds good written on paper, but yet was my life was a complete pile of shit and I have NOTHING to show.
 
the 80's and the dope become the same price at one point; you can say the dope fiends save cash but they dont; tolerance just sky rockets and you needle double the amount of dope as you once did before; if you stayed w/ you 80's then you'd still be at that high price, so there ends up on savings.

I made the switch a long time ago myself and it was because I didnt want to buy 30's anymore and so many for such a price; so why not buy bundles of dope instead. well, that bundle didnt do much more than the 30's did, so I needed more than just that bundle. long story short, I stuck w/ the dope but my cost cut a bit originally but if I were to ever and TRY to go back to those 30's, I'd prob have to pay 20x's the amount since my dope tolerance has sky rocketed (3G's a day). 8AM blast - 5PM blast - 10PM blast/nod - and then do it again. most of the time it was 2G's and I had an 8AM and 8PM blast off. sounds good written on paper, but yet was my life was a complete pile of shit and I have NOTHING to show.
i dont know if your talking about powder or tar but....
You had/have a 2-3 gram a day habit?!? How the hell!? dude you would literally have to be like doing TONS of opies for years every day to build that kinda tolerance and have a super rich family (trustfund worth at least 100,000 +) and a place all of your own.... So i must ask, how the hell would you afford that habit? Is your family rich and lets you just sit around all day blasting dope all day? B/c at that habit theres no way you had or could have a job unless your employer just knew and accepted your status as a mumbling nodding opiate addict..

Could you explain this life of yours you lead on a 3g a day diet of dope? im seriously interested.
 
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