17th Issue General Heroin Discussion v. Perfect Day

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thanks man

took a ride down with my friend today, god damn does this dude go about copping so odd I must say

we went down with the intent of cold copping and im trying to tell him a good spot to go but we wound up walking a couple blocks with no one in sight (literally it was deserted) and then finally he's like "alright lets just to to the ave" and we get there and he's like "ok well let me try calling this dide real quick"

and one 30 second convo later has us going in the complete opposite direction and I couldnt help but think "probably should have hit this guy up from the jump but ok...."

slo we finallly get some shit and then he has to make some different bags (aka, skimping the people who didnt go down with him) and its just like time is whatever to this dude

idk, im just being antsy for no reason other than im pretty fucked up right now

stamp was called "Get Ok"

and product is as advertised
 
and it really sucks man, the guy im talking about has a sister (a hot sister) who is a year younger than me and we've always been cool but I just never really made any moves because of a couple of reasons.

One, he is someone I am close enough to to buy dope with so I don't want to step on any toes considering there's not an extensive list of candidates for that.
Two, she doesn't do dope or any hard drugs really. Not sure if she smokes weed or not still, I know she used to because I have smoked with her before I just dont have up to date intelligence on that atm.
Three, she's not 21 yet so I couldn't really meetup with her at a bar or anything. She has asked me to get alcohol for her though so this one goes both ways I guess lol

I think I'm just gonna wait for a moment of weakness on his part, a day where he's really hurtin for bags or somethin, then just kind of throw it out there in person after we meet up to head out. start off asking about her friends and shit ("she still hang out with so and so?"), then bring up the fact that she was hinting at hanging out sometime the last I saw her, see how he's taking it up to that point, and either push on or drop it completely if he gets offended for whatever reason.

like he knows im a good dude, I just dont know if he wants his sister hanging out with people who he gets drugs with

challenge...... accepted
 
damn shim is only 21?

I've been on this forum for forever, talking about boy. now I just feel like that one old junkie in the corner of the meeting...
 
shimazu said:
and it really sucks man, the guy im talking about has a sister (a hot sister) who is a year younger than me and we've always been cool but I just never really made any moves because of a couple of reasons.

One, he is someone I am close enough to to buy dope with so I don't want to step on any toes considering there's not an extensive list of candidates for that.
Two, she doesn't do dope or any hard drugs really. Not sure if she smokes weed or not still, I know she used to because I have smoked with her before I just dont have up to date intelligence on that atm.
Three, she's not 21 yet so I couldn't really meetup with her at a bar or anything. She has asked me to get alcohol for her though so this one goes both ways I guess lol

I think I'm just gonna wait for a moment of weakness on his part, a day where he's really hurtin for bags or somethin, then just kind of throw it out there in person after we meet up to head out. start off asking about her friends and shit ("she still hang out with so and so?"), then bring up the fact that she was hinting at hanging out sometime the last I saw her, see how he's taking it up to that point, and either push on or drop it completely if he gets offended for whatever reason.

like he knows im a good dude, I just dont know if he wants his sister hanging out with people who he gets drugs with

challenge...... accepted
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Yeah he can't really say you are a bad dude for doing dope, because he does it, too. But that doesn't mean he is gonna want his sister dating/hanging out with a dope addict. Think about what happens quite often when a girl dates a guy who uses a certain drug....yup, she ends up on it, too. And you know dope addicts are always trying to protect others from getting into it, just read this forum when someone talks about wanting to try dope and thats just for random nobodies. This is his sister, the last thing he would want on his conscience is that he hooked his sister up with a junky and then she became one.

Just my view, I don't judge you for wanting the girl if she is cool and hot. If you do don't let her fall into the nonsense, no matter what. Its the least you'd owe to the friend of your's.
 
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Yeah you have to think of it as if it was your sister.. Would you want her dating a dope fiend? Even if he was a nice guy?

Can't really blame a brother/anybody for not wanting that for their family member.
 
totally agreed. im not a bad person but i still wouldnt want her dating someone like me and if she did id be eyeing that fucker up waiting for him to pull some funny shit. lol
 
shimazu said:
slo we finallly get some shit and then he has to make some different bags (aka, skimping the people
stamp was called "Get Ok"

and product is as advertised
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Get OK? JUST Ok?? What a shitty name for a stamp. Haha product is as advertised that made me laugh.
 
Well, there used to be a set around here that sold 'Sick' stamps..
Ironic, because they got me high as balls. lol
Would suck if that was a 'product is as advertised' meh
 
Being a doper is like having the "scarlet letter" around your neck...in this case it would be a D for druggie or H for heroin; something like that just a terrible stigma attached to it. I wanted to ask a question of all my fellow "junkies or ex-junkies"...I can't speak for you guys but in my experience the heroin addicts I know or associated with weren't really bad or evil people...they are actually nice people who have the condition of addiction and yes I know there are a lot who steal, rob or con people to feed their habits...but the majority aren't like that. They work either a steady job or like me do a lot of odd jobs anytime, anywhere just to get by. My question is...what's the ratio of nice junkies to scumbag assholes that you know?? I mean do you know more addicts who earn their money honestly or know more "junkies" that do just about anything to get money or drugs???
 
i worked 2 jobs this summer and instead of doing pills like last summer i met this guy at my first job and he did dope and from march to now ive done and borrowed alot of money that i payed back on time but when i became unemployed i doing some dumb shit. that shit had me by the balls in less then 6 months. all my money went to it and im glad im on subs now and soon on the naltrexone shot because i couldnt imagine keeping this up for years. i did pills for 7 years before i even touched dope and my tolerance was like 30 mgs of oxy and now its up to 120-139 to get high. that shit is no joke. im not gonna go in to my first day of w/d back in july when it was 77 degrees and 80% humidity for 4 days in a row and i was either at the golf course from 6am-230pm or at the pizza shop cooking on the fucking grill from 4-9pm. i only had an hour and a haslf between jobs. i ended up getting a couple 15s from my mom after the 3rd day and i told her i was hooked on dope but i didnt try to stop till october. i had to walk to get my bundle on the 3rd day and i was only right down the st and by the time i got back my stomach hurt so bad all i did was stare at the bags for 10 mins cuz i knew i was gonna puke right after i did it. ive gone trough it like that since but now i hope i never gotta do it like that ever again.

im know others have it way worse then me but idgaf, id still would'nt wish that on my worst enemy.
 
I tried plugging some H today, its maybe the 3rd time I've done it and I have yet to be impressed. First time I didn't feel much, but used only a "get well" dose, but I had some in my system so it should've put me to the point of being high. The second time I did it I kind of spilled 1/3 of it, so figured that had a lot to do with me being underwhelmed, though I still felt if I had snorted that dose it'd been better. This time I used a good amount, a dose I know would get me at least a decent high if snorted. I had snorted some earlier, too, so I wasn't hurting (I tend to need more if its been long enough to start w/d'ing. ). I took 2 bowel movements today, so figured I cleaned myself out. Still this time it was nothing special. After like 15 minutes I got a nice warm feeling, but it seemed to fade quickly and I feel it didn't work that well. IDK if its always getting absorbed by feces, I mean I'm not gonna perform a home enema every time I want to plug if you really need to be that sure there is nothing up there. Oh well, that is just my 2 cents on pluggin, I read around the forum and find its around 2:1 ratio of people who find it better than snorting and who don't. What really surprises me is the people who say it almost works as well as IV(I'd imagine they still would need a higher dose, though). Now I haven't IV'd and don't plan to at the moment, but I have to believe its a far better experience than what I've had plugging.
 
RaZkaL86 said:
My question is...what's the ratio of nice junkies to scumbag assholes that you know?? I mean do you know more addicts who earn their money honestly or know more "junkies" that do just about anything to get money or drugs???
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Probably about 50/50. There are the good people who make their money legit and are actually pleasant to be around.. and then there are the scum bag hustlers who are total pieces of shit.
 
I'm very careful with junkies....I trust some to an extent, but I'd still never give them a chance to screw me...
 
^Yeah, I got some I trust but like you say, only to an extent. Like I am 75% confident they won't try to screw me, and if I really want to hound them I won't lose whatever they might owe me. Bit I'd never trust them with enough to make me lose sleep over the loss. Then there is others I wouldn't lend a damn nickel to, for good reason. Track record seems to determine it, there are a few who I did trust but don't anymore.
 
BlueHues said:
I'm very careful with junkies....I trust some to an extent, but I'd still never give them a chance to screw me...
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I go with this over 50/50. I just never give an addict a chance, since especially with opiates, they really can't control themselves. Beyond a certain point and it's almost like someone else doing it... Example, I had a script of Valium I gave to my friend who'd been addicted to H, got clean, and then got a minor oxycodone habit... I let him hold on to the script because I didn't want it (just got clean), and he needed them to help him get clean as well. MFer ended up eating all of them. Never trusted him again after that.
 
Opiates definitely cause people to do some dickhead things, even people who aren't addicted fall to their allures.

For instance, I had a friend who had picked some roxy 30s for me once. He had 3 for me that I planned doing that weekend, but he was going away for the weekend and I was working late that night. Now he left that evening and had been hanging around with another friend of mine. Instead of leaving the 30s in a place where I could just grab them (which he had done before and I even told him to do this) he gives them to the friend of ours he was with, tells him they are for me and tells me to grab them off him. Well I call the friend who is holding them (a user but not an addict) and he tells me oh sorry I took them. Man that shit really pissed me off, ruined my weekend. And I wasn't even addicted at the time, at least I wasn't physically dependent and gonna be sick, just really pissed off.
 
It was funny seeing my friend when I went home last week...I've lived here in the Midwest for over 2 years now...When I left, I was the one with all the dope connects...Which meant I was always in control to an extent. I got the extra dope if there was any etc. I copped for him, me and my girlfriend everyday. The only dope I ever withheld from him was the extra I'd get if we copped a lot, which usually ended up being a half-gram a day. Between us three, we were spending between 3-500 a day! He has a job making a ridiculous amount of money though...over 250,000 a year, he wasn't married...So no matter what happened we never really had to worry about money...It did happen once and a while, but not usually....I just took it for granted, going everyday with a stack of fresh 20s to get our shit....

Now, 2 years later, I go back home and I have no connects anymore...when I first left I gave him my 2 best phone numbers to work with so he wouldn't have to fuck with any other junkies...
but lo and behold, within a few months one of the connects got busted and the other disappeared...

He ended up calling this girl who I used to hang out with and cop and get high....I was friends with this chick, but she was a fucking hustler that you definitely didn't wanna turn your back on! He started calling her and she started copping for him....She basically started trying to use him and get free dope everyday from him...He was rich and she was a junkie, so it was inevitable...Anyway, this chick always ended up with good connects...she was a drug slut with huge tits! Anyway, he ended up getting the number for these guys from her...She got pissed that he didn't wanna give her free dope and she tried to call the dealers to tell them not to serve him...
but he was spending so much money with them, the whole plan backfired and they ended up cutting her off instead! Now my friend has that same connect to this day and they usually have great dope!

But now when I go home and wanna get high, he acts like he's on a power trip...trying to make me wait and shit...even though he has dope with him! Making me wait until the dealer comes with more before letting me get some!

Dope changes people and makes them selfish! The thing is...I know how to go out there and find new connects as needed...These guys he's going through now are good, but if something happens to them he'll be calling me up asking for me to find him dope from 1500 miles away!
 
^Thats fucked he does that to you. My buddy who I had mentioned in the last post (who was getting me the roxis)and I would always pick up together for a good while until he moved too far away to make it convenient anymore. He had the connect initially so he controlled things for a while. He would always hook me up if I was sick and waiting. Or even before I was dependent he'd get me high when we were waiting. Once we started going in together, I'd always seem to have extra and help him out cause he would usually run short prior to re-upping. Thing is, he is the only person I actually consider a friend who is also a junky, someone I hung around with on a daily basis for years. Most my friends are not or have some way avoided addiction, mostly just pot heads and heavy drinkers.
 
BlueHues said:
I'm very careful with junkies....I trust some to an extent, but I'd still never give them a chance to screw me...
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This is about how I feel. There is one guy that I use sometimes and he don't work and middlemans to support his habit. When he tells me he has to go get it down in the hood I know all my bags will be lite. Deep down he is a good guy but the addict takes over when he has dope. When he has his own money everything is good and I give him his cut. Today I drove him to a house he had money for his and he never got out of the car so I know he didn't pinch mine. But last time I was desperate and not only did he help himself to the 1/2 of bag that we agreed on but the other 3 bags were lite but it's my own fault for using him.
 
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