17th Issue General Heroin Discussion v. Perfect Day

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BostonBrownTown said:
I am all for treatment, as you I mentioned here over and over about me and my bupe, but the MMT I could never see myself doing. seems like such a pain in the butt (esp. on sloppy days) where I have to get up extra early and grab my load. doesnt seems right. I bet a lot more would be on MMT if it was just a pill form type treatment, which they do give I believe if its pain or vaca type stuff but for daily treatment you gotta show up at the clinic and be ready for blast off, right?

what time do you go? how long does it take? how do you get there? how do you get home? had a few "friends" go through this and they could only last so long because of the schedule and what it took to get through.
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If you can put energy towards going and scoring everyday, you can manage to make it to the clinic. How is it any different than that?

I only go to the clinic once a week, dose for the day and they give me 6 bottles to take home. Its like a 7 minute drive. What do you mean "ready for blast off"? Go at whatever time you want to be dosed, my clinics open 5am-12:45pm. Of course with my take homes i dose whenever i want.
 
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When youre running around like a maniac getting money and scoring drugs all day, going to the methadone clinic aint shit!

We forget how bad it was though and bitch about being on methadone. If you know you cant stop, and you know you cant keep up with your habit, its the smart move, IMO
 
^I love the 'done. Without it I wouldnt be able to function or go to school. So much easier than trying to maintain a heroin habit, although I still use occasionally. But I dont use everyday, or multiple times a day like my addiction.

Whats a real hassle is trying to shoot up when its cold in the morning, youre sick and dehydrated and cant find any veins, making you late for work/school etc. The methadone clinic is my savior, and Im on a relatively low dose and am happy with it.
 
RTrain said:
I'd imagine it would've been a real tough transition to Subs for you, cause I have a pain in the ass time with it and I know my habit isn't on your level. I wish I could even consider the methadone route, but my job has erratic hours, I wouldn't be able to go to the clinic at all on certain days. Unless they gave me take homes for 2 days of the week right off the bat. It seems to work best for a M-F 9-5 job, cause you get up a little earlier, get your dose and are on your way. Then you already start having Sunday take homes so you can grab your dose Sat AM and maybe head out for a weekend trip or something, at least you have that until you get some more take homes and get really get away from home for an extended time.
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Yeah trying to get back on sub this time around was agonizing. I would be sick for days, like I hadn't taken anything at all, and then just give in and use, but the bupe would still block a lot despite it not working on my withdrawals, so I'd have to spend a ton of money on dope.

I tried many times to induct. I tried myself, with doctors, nothing worked. I was feeling incredibly trapped. It took me a while to actually get a methadone appointment but when I finally did, it was a sigh of relief.
 
So I got a potential job offer coming up and its my "dream job" even though I have a BS (pun intendend) in business management and the degree means no more to this employer than that I might be smarter than some of the other candidates. And of course this job does the dreaded hair drug testing, at least that is the least I heard. If I had gotten the news that they were hiring possible as many as 10 new employees and it was 2 weeks ago when I had been on Sub for 2 weeks, damn I'd been a lot better off (even though I had smoked some weed throughout that time, plus some benzos a few days before I was back on dope).

Now to elaborate on this, I do not know when they are going to send out the interview invites, it could be next week or not for months (they send it in the mail). Once I get it, I have 2 weeks to responds by walking in and signing an acceptance to the offer. It really sucks and right now I am just needing to get off the dope, but won't be able to do so until next weekend. Then I gotta wonder if they test for bupe, b/c nowadays its such a commonly abused drug. Kratom has come to mind as a possible replacement, there is no way they test for that and its still legal afaik.

It just really sucks, the hair tests are such bullshit. I guess I just gotta try to get as long as possible under my belt without anything in the system. Wait about a week because all the dirty hair isn't exposed for that long, then shave it all off. Hopefully by the time the test comes I have enough clean hair grown to pass. I don't just have dope to get out, either. Also clonaz I have taken 1-1/5 mg for 10 days and smoking some strong bud, though I only take a few hits when I smoke. Still I think it will put me over the cutoff with its potency and somking a few times everyday for a week or 2.

I would do the methadone thing, too, since it would be an easier transition that might work quicker, plus keep me from fucking up. But I think they test for that and this particular job probably wouldn't consider someone on maintenance.
 
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Me and my family love dope and are staying clean, its hard as fuck! Except my mother who is prescribed 300mg/ Day oxycodone but that is due to 7 recent surgeries and severe arthritis, dads on Bupe and me and my brother are on benzo regiments, Buspar has also helped alot. No dope No MDMA life is getting cleaning and better ____ Today was a good day

I have been drinking like a fish tho, dope just makes me angry as fuck when I dont have it, hope I can stay clean I leave for vegas tomorrow... Hoping to score some dank weed for under 80/gram what I got last time i was there from some guy with blue teeth, not a bluetooth lol
 
^ if you hold a valid perscription by law they can't hold it against you. I don't even think the testing company can tell the employer what you are takeing. I could be wrong though.
 
Mr.Scagnattie said:
^^

Got a whole family of opiate addicts, huh? Ha. That must be nuts.
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Yea and my dad the craziest of them all owns a business we all work for, he was caught up in the Northside Projects smoking match heads of PCP and two of his friends were murderd so he got out(MPLS) until I was 16 he paid people in jail to help them support there family's on the outside until I dropped out of school at age 17 and began to work for myself ( legally ).

We have a totally legit profitable pawn shop now he owns, it's pretty ill when you rise from the street to the legal market no one can fuck with you, my mother who is 55 years of age has TWO 12 gauge shotguns under her desk :) I am trying to get an M1 semi-auto for my desk. We deal with tons of meth addicts, there are some good ones in the mix, but weapons are for when a streaker is on a comedown in our store nothing says leave like professional marksmen.

The clean cut addicts are the ones you need to worry about ;) I would say it was a speedbump in our quality of life, I am working on getting some Naloxone for my mother tho so anyone in MPLS that can help me please PM me, Johnny Blue said it is ok to source Naloxone here

Welderman said:
^ if you hold a valid perscription by law they can't hold it against you. I don't even think the testing company can tell the employer what you are takeing. I could be wrong though.
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Yea this is a little incorrect, with benzo/ opiate class, legally you can be turned away from employment, for instance car mechanics.... Whether you have a script or not.
 
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RTrain said:
Ehh, you probably get disease from being on the Red line, or get mugged. And the Green line is the most unpleasantly bumpy and erratic form of transportation in the city...
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haha, so true on all your accounts

I lived in Kenmore with some friends, so I always had to take the damn Green Line. fucking BU students/Red Sox fans everywhere. the Red Line wasn't so bad, well it was bad when I would have to get off at Mattapan aka Murdapan, but I remember my girl living in Dorchester, and it wasn't really as bad as I imagined - although the Rust Belt gets pretty ghetto itself, so I wasn't really shocked by anything

the commuter rail was fucking slick though! I would have to take that out from like the Prudential building to like this suburb around Foxboro, I think Millis or something. nobody ever rode it and it was faster than fuck

I miss getting off of work and hitting up my dealer, in Boston. well I don't miss it but I do. I'm sure ya'll know the drill
 
ohshea said:
If you can put energy towards going and scoring everyday, you can manage to make it to the clinic. How is it any different than that?

I only go to the clinic once a week, dose for the day and they give me 6 bottles to take home. Its like a 7 minute drive. What do you mean "ready for blast off"? Go at whatever time you want to be dosed, my clinics open 5am-12:45pm. Of course with my take homes i dose whenever i want.
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you are one of the VERY few who get it that way; others wake up extremely early for the dosage.

yes, when I was running around dope that was on my own schedule. that wasnt on their schedule. if youre working an 8-5 than your methadone hours are rough and thats not something you would typically do when using. let's not try to compare to two and pretend I was wrong here; I was far from it. night and day difference than when you score the real thing.

how come you only gotta go once a week? must have been a long time now?
 
RTrain said:
So I got a potential job offer coming up and its my "dream job" even though I have a BS (pun intendend) in business management
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sidebar: actually, my friend, I would like to talk to you about this

I have about two years left of college, I pretty much have finished all my pre-reqs, and I just got an e-mail today that they accepted my financial aid/loans, and I'm going to get pretty well hooked up to finish college. it took awhile, no doubt because I have problems with the IRS on my back (I teach drum lessons - so I'm taxed like a small business owner), but that is neither here nor there

I have been seriously considering switching my major from English to Business Management, in fact, I've already convinced myself of this. can you tell me any general tips/stories as to how you got your degree and what it took? hopefully not too many math classes, as those are the only classes that I seem to have a problem with. how is finding work going for you? with my musical experience and a business degree I could do a lot of financial damage, which no doubt equals more decadent drug fueled nights ;)

talking about a degree in the dope thread. what is BL coming to?
 
RTrain said:
So I got a potential job offer coming up and its my "dream job" even though I have a BS (pun intendend) in business management and the degree means no more to this employer than that I might be smarter than some of the other candidates. And of course this job does the dreaded hair drug testing, at least that is the least I heard. If I had gotten the news that they were hiring possible as many as 10 new employees and it was 2 weeks ago when I had been on Sub for 2 weeks, damn I'd been a lot better off (even though I had smoked some weed throughout that time, plus some benzos a few days before I was back on dope).

Now to elaborate on this, I do not know when they are going to send out the interview invites, it could be next week or not for months (they send it in the mail). Once I get it, I have 2 weeks to responds by walking in and signing an acceptance to the offer. It really sucks and right now I am just needing to get off the dope, but won't be able to do so until next weekend. Then I gotta wonder if they test for bupe, b/c nowadays its such a commonly abused drug. Kratom has come to mind as a possible replacement, there is no way they test for that and its still legal afaik.

It just really sucks, the hair tests are such bullshit. I guess I just gotta try to get as long as possible under my belt without anything in the system. Wait about a week because all the dirty hair isn't exposed for that long, then shave it all off. Hopefully by the time the test comes I have enough clean hair grown to pass. I don't just have dope to get out, either. Also clonaz I have taken 1-1/5 mg for 10 days and smoking some strong bud, though I only take a few hits when I smoke. Still I think it will put me over the cutoff with its potency and somking a few times everyday for a week or 2.

I would do the methadone thing, too, since it would be an easier transition that might work quicker, plus keep me from fucking up. But I think they test for that and this particular job probably wouldn't consider someone on maintenance.
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Sounds like your screwed if they hair test
 
BostonBrownTown said:
you are one of the VERY few who get it that way; others wake up extremely early for the dosage.

yes, when I was running around dope that was on my own schedule. that wasnt on their schedule. if youre working an 8-5 than your methadone hours are rough and thats not something you would typically do when using. let's not try to compare to two and pretend I was wrong here; I was far from it. night and day difference than when you score the real thing.

how come you only gotta go once a week? must have been a long time now?
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Yea well i gotta be to class at 830 and i always swing by the clinic before class on Tuesdays

I only go once a week because i put in the work--have given all clean tests for nine months and continue to give clean tests and visit w my counselor once a month. Its really not difficult, the clinic works with you even if you are still using, you just dont get take home bottles. Methadone has been by far the most superior treatment Ive ever tried that works, and I always preach the word when I can ;)
 
I am feeling the bupe right now just like you mention about the done; I feel great and each and every day I wake up and ready to go. just made the switch from 12MG to 8MG and will be riding the 8MG for a bit. we'll see how it all plays out but I am in no rush because things have been great.
 
wound up cold copping last night after my friend bailed (and with his connection). Parked up on a side street about 3 blocks from the "center" as I call it. My goal was to basically do a giant loop and just wait for someone to say something.

first acknolwedgement I got was from this group of like 15 year olds though, and I try not to fuck with them when theyre in groups like that because theyre more unstable.

not even 3 minutes later I get a sup sup from this scraggle toothed black guy probably about in his late 40s. I told him I was cool and gave him a cig so I could see his teeth again lol.

then as im walkin away I see this figure walking towards me in the distance and I just started to get this weird feeling like yeah, that's the dude whos gonna get me shit today. As I get closer I can teel he's hispanic which is a good thing in my book. Were about 5 yards from walking past each other at this point and once again,

"sup sup?"

so I stop and ask him if he only has subs and he says yeah. Of course though, he knows exactly where to get some. We'll call this guy Dom, since he was actually Dominican albeit one of the lightest skinned ones I have ever seen.

So me and Dom walk about 2 blocks in the other direction from which I came until we come upon this group of 3 black dudes standing at (you ready for this?) the corner. From there out it was the usual guy goes and gets it while you give the money to someome else routine.

stamp is called MMG, looks like this logo in blue ink over a white bag

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my old phone broke so I lost my backup dealers numbers and my two main guys have their phone off. It's gonna be a miserable Christmas if I can't get anything.
 
MMG? What you suppose that stands for? Maybe its actually MGM, like the MGM grand hotels and stuff.

Eh, I guess not, not symbols looking like that in a google image search for mgm

Oh its a rap label. I don't listen to much rap later than '00
 
yeah it was funny as shit man the guy definitely spoke english as a second language and when he said he had suboxone it sounded like he said he had "Sebastian" and I thought that was the name of the stamp so I asked him how much for a bundle of it and he just looked at me funny as fuck haha but we were actually talking about some cool stuff about the dominican republic and even though I didnt exactly get a great deal in price, the stuff is comatose good so im glad I threw him some money
 
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